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Club Alleva Coppolo (Part V)

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[Laughing!]

While it would probably be smarter if I waited until I saw what new things NAMM has to offer, that's not what I'm waiting for.

I was serious when I wrote earlier that not understanding the whole Alleva Coppolo pecking order was stopping me from buying so I didn't make an expensive mistake.

Now that I FINALLY feel like I have a grasp on that, I feel like I am starting over.

It is FAR more likely I'd get a used from classifieds than new though... safe investment at those prices.

And... a used 1600 at a good price... I would consider that in a second. I just wouldn't design up a vintage jazz bass and then put an AAAA top on it if I were buying new. Again, pure IMO!
 
So....

There are 5 ACs listed in the first 15 basses showing in the TB classifieds right now. The whole thing just disturbs me. What else could you people be playing? :rollno:


That's because we adn others keep bumping them to the top of the list! Lot's of interest in these basses at the moment.

This topic came up a few pages back in this thread. There are lot's of Fodera's (a lot more than 5) and other high cost basses for sale right now, and most of the guys selling Alleva's have two or more, and more on order. Nothing to be afraid about if you are considering one.

That being said, you better make darn sure you basically like the sound of a vintage Fender, because that's what these basses are all about. I think some people 'think' they want that, and 'believe' they want that, and then maybe not so much when they actually get it:D
 
That's because we adn others keep bumping them to the top of the list! Lot's of interest in these basses at the moment.

This topic came up a few pages back in this thread. There are lot's of Fodera's (a lot more than 5) and other high cost basses for sale right now, and most of the guys selling Alleva's have two or more, and more on order. Nothing to be afraid about if you are considering one.

That being said, you better make darn sure you basically like the sound of a vintage Fender, because that's what these basses are all about. I think some people 'think' they want that, and 'believe' they want that, and then maybe not so much when they actually get it:D

Fair point.

I'd love to know if Jimmy has ever fielded calls/emails from people who have said - "Man, Can you make me a 7 string? I want it to be headless, with a 27 volt preamp, piezo pickups and LEDs". :D

I imagine the upcharge would make DN look like a new set of strings :)
 
Hi.. i am home this year.. im sorry. i have a session schedule that i could not or want to back out of. but if i were there i would posting pics here like mad...

i think i may have even beat mr bowlus to the punch on a few pics last year..:) and that's darn near impossible.:)

Hey Kirk,

How about some news from NAMM whats the big secret???
 
Actually he teamed up with steve jobs and has developed the New iBass.. with a click wheel in the center of the body.. By rotating the wheel with your finger and holding the play button, you get to sound the note. it also is wireless so you can get bass videos from youtube and it plays mp3s..
:smug:
[Chuckle]. Yeah, but you should hear the iBass play Jamerson.
 
I thought the 1600 was just an Alleva with a fancy top. I would guess if you spec a 1600 with an alder body and RW board, it would sound like an LG (or an LG with the pickups in 70's position, or whatever). There aren't many players nor luthiers who feel a thin top wood veneer impacts the tone.

When in NYC in 2007 I was at the shop specing a bass with Jimmy ... I wanted the 60's specifications but with a fancy top. Jimmy just straight away said he would only do the 70's spacing with the fancy top. This seemed to be his recommendation. Anyway ... at the time ... he had a bass in stock which I ended up purchasing. No regrets. It has been always fantastic and constantly amazing.
It is basically a 1600 with African rosewood board. Also ... at the time Jimmy and Marco both said that the African rosewood was sonically so similar to the Brazilian rosewood ... basically identical.
This instrument seems to amplify how it sounds acoustically. Truly amazing!
Regards
 
I thought the 1600 was just an Alleva with a fancy top. I would guess if you spec a 1600 with an alder body and RW board, it would sound like an LG (or an LG with the pickups in 70's position, or whatever). There aren't many players nor luthiers who feel a thin top wood veneer impacts the tone.

When in NYC in 2007 I was at the shop specing a bass with Jimmy ... I wanted the 60's specifications but with a fancy top. Jimmy just straight away said he would only do the 70's spacing with the fancy top. This seemed to be his recommendation. Anyway ... at the time ... he had a bass in stock which I ended up purchasing. No regrets. It has been always fantastic and constantly amazing.
It is basically a 1600 with African rosewood board. Also ... at the time Jimmy and Marco both said that the African rosewood was sonically so similar to the Brazilian rosewood ... basically identical.
This instrument seems to amplify how it sounds acoustically. Truly amazing!
Regards

The African is VERY close to the Dalbergia and the Indian is close enough for 99% of the people out there. The real difference is more feel than tone....IME at least anyway...

Peace,

T
 
I still don't get the whole fingerboard and feel thing. I mean rolled edges maybe, but its not like my fingers are actually touching the fingerboard. They are touching the strings. Its not like bending strings into the fingerboard. I just don't get it.

That said, I love my LG :)
 
I still don't get the whole fingerboard and feel thing. I mean rolled edges maybe, but its not like my fingers are actually touching the fingerboard. They are touching the strings. Its not like bending strings into the fingerboard. I just don't get it.

That said, I love my LG :)

Trust me once you realize it there is a whole new dimension to playing! It is a feeling that goes beyond the feel of the string itself...You will instantly know when you experience it.

Peace,

T
 
That being said, you better make darn sure you basically like the sound of a vintage Fender, because that's what these basses are all about. I think some people 'think' they want that, and 'believe' they want that, and then maybe not so much when they actually get it
A VERY true statement!

Many of us tend to look at vintage oriented instruments with "Barbara Streisand eyes" and remember "The Way We Were" quite a bit more fondly that it really was.

In the 60s and 70s, Fenders were great basses for sure, but by no means ideal. Consequently, many players AT THAT TIME were looking for ways to modify and improve on them.

In fact, it was by modifying his era-true Fender bass that Marcus Miller found his sound (with the help of Roger Sadwosky, a Barotolini preamp, and a new bridge).

In other words, while many of us think we want that vintage bass sound, in reality we might actually have an "evolved vintage" sound in mind, or worse yet an idealistic recollection of what vintage Jazz truly bass was.

If Jimmy has done his job right, and everyone says he has, then Alleva Coppolos are in reality, Fenders out of context.

And as a prospective Alleva Coppola customer, I need to understand what each model is and what it isn't, and have a clear idea of what I am wanting, otherwise I could set myself up to be disappointed for reasons that have nothing to do with how Jimmy builds his basses, you know?
 
I still don't get the whole fingerboard and feel thing.

Hey Sean,

As odd as it sounds, there really is a bit of a "feel" difference. The DN seems to have a tiny bit more give. It doesn't feel spongy by any means, just a little comfortable. As you say, and as I have said in the past, it seems strange that it makes any difference as you are only touching the fret - but there is a difference. Whether or not you prefer the feel is a whole other question, and it's not a night and day difference either, but those who like it really REALLY like it.
 
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