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Club Sadowsky!!!

#31,701
I have HCs in my ash / brazilian rosewood RV4. I think I'm going to keep them in as I often use that bass with the neck pickup favoured for a P bass vibe (and I currently have TI flats on it) and I avoid any hum with the HCs.
My favourite Sadowsky is my MV4 ash / maple and in that one I love the SCs and the 70s pickup placement. Since I bought this one almost a year ago I have barely touched another bass. It can do everything for me.
 
#31,702
barks said:
I have HCs in my ash / brazilian rosewood RV4. I think I'm going to keep them in as I often use that bass with the neck pickup favoured for a P bass vibe (and I currently have TI flats on it) and I avoid any hum with the HCs.
My favourite Sadowsky is my MV4 ash / maple and in that one I love the SCs and the 70s pickup placement. Since I bought this one almost a year ago I have barely touched another bass. It can do everything for me.
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MVs have 60s pickup placement.
UVs have the 70s placement.
Unless its a NYC ordered that way.
 
#31,705
MikeBass said:
I'm gonna get railed for this, but I love EMGs with Rogers pre.
I was actually just for grins gonna try a set in my WL.

Go ahead, lemme have it! :hiding:
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Ok Mike I'll let you you have it! :D J/K

I am intrigued about what that might sound like

having used EMG's in my Spector's and in some builds, I can probably guess the sound is completely different from the passive HC's /SC's

does it completely lose that "Sadowsky sound"?

do you have any sound clips?
 
#31,706
I used EMG's quite a bit in the 80's and 90's. They sound great and work great with the Sadowsky pre. Rob Turner is a good friend and produces some wonderful stuff. I stopped using them primarily because I wanted a complete active/passive option for my basses.

Roger
 
#31,707
Sadowsky said:
I used EMG's quite a bit in the 80's and 90's. They sound great and work great with the Sadowsky pre. Rob Turner is a good friend and produces some wonderful stuff. I stopped using them primarily because I wanted a complete active/passive option for my basses.

Roger
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With EMGs, the pups themselves are active, no? Does that change the wiring of the pre in any way, or is there a power line from each pickup directly to the battery compartment?
 
#31,708
roadkill2309 said:
With EMGs, the pups themselves are active, no? Does that change the wiring of the pre in any way, or is there a power line from each pickup directly to the battery compartment?
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Yes, the pickups are active. No, it doesn't affect the preamp wiring, but yes, battery leads go to the pickups as well as the preamp, so the pickups are always active no matter what's going on with the preamp wiring, and if the battery dies, the pickups do too, so there is no "fully" passive mode... you have to have a good battery in the bass for it to operate (per Roger's point).

While we're on the subject, just a reminder in case some might not know or recall...

Also, unless Roger's preamp is done differently, just keep in mind that even in "passive mode", the battery power is being used by the preamp... it's just that the active circuit is not in the signal path. So with passive pickups, you don't need the battery to operate, but, if the battery is present and the bass is plugged in, power is still being fed to the preamp, and being used (albeit very lightly).
 
#31,709
roadkill2309 said:
With EMGs, the pups themselves are active, no? Does that change the wiring of the pre in any way, or is there a power line from each pickup directly to the battery compartment?
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Each EMG pickup has it's own battery wire. Both the pickups and the preamp work off the same battery.

However, the volume control should be changed to a 25KA pot, which is supplied with the EMG pickups.

Roger
 
#31,710
Vic said:
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While we're on the subject, just a reminder in case some might not know or recall...

Also, unless Roger's preamp is done differently, just keep in mind that even in "passive mode", the battery power is being used by the preamp... it's just that the active circuit is not in the signal path. So with passive pickups, you don't need the battery to operate, but, if the battery is present and the bass is plugged in, power is still being fed to the preamp, and being used (albeit very lightly).
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Interesting. I did not know that, but it makes sense. Thanks.
 
#31,711
ezrs said:
Hi all,
I am joining the club, ahead of schedule! Found a beautiful looking NYC J from 2000 for a great price, I'll get it in the post next week.
A question for those who have played basses pre and post modern enhancements of the early 2000s (chambered body, graphite reenforcement). Should I be expecting a bass of the same quality if it does not have those features? I ask only out of sheer ignorance, and am very much looking forward to adding a sadowsky to my collection!!
Thanks!
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Folks, please help out a new owner! Wondering what I should expect from my new/old bass. Thanks!
 
#31,713
ezrs said:
Folks, please help out a new owner! Wondering what I should expect from my new/old bass. Thanks!
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You should expect a great instrument :bassist:








:D:D:D

No kidding now, ;) Roger has always built his instruments to the highest standards so even if your bass is older and lacks the minor improvements that Roger has implemented on his basses over the years, you are going to get a bass with excellent wood and electronics, amazing built quality and great playability (you might need a setup, but even that is easy with a Sadowsky).

Let us know what you think when you get it.
 
#31,714
Vic said:
Yes, the pickups are active. No, it doesn't affect the preamp wiring, but yes, battery leads go to the pickups as well as the preamp, so the pickups are always active no matter what's going on with the preamp wiring, and if the battery dies, the pickups do too, so there is no "fully" passive mode... you have to have a good battery in the bass for it to operate (per Roger's point).

While we're on the subject, just a reminder in case some might not know or recall...

Also, unless Roger's preamp is done differently, just keep in mind that even in "passive mode", the battery power is being used by the preamp... it's just that the active circuit is not in the signal path. So with passive pickups, you don't need the battery to operate, but, if the battery is present and the bass is plugged in, power is still being fed to the preamp, and being used (albeit very lightly).
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I always unplug during set breaks. It's a habit I picked up when my Lakland was my main gigging bass. I never could figure out why switching to passive doesn't bypass the pre completely...
 
#31,715
roadkill2309 said:
I never could figure out why switching to passive doesn't bypass the pre completely...
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Because the switch that turns on the battery is the output jack.
If the battery switch was located in the preamp on/off switch, it would make a very loud pop when you turn the preamp on or off.
 
#31,716
ezrs said:
Folks, please help out a new owner! Wondering what I should expect from my new/old bass. Thanks!
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Hi. Sorry, I missed your question. The difference won't be in quality, that's for sure. Roger started chamfering his basses because he was noticing that the weight for bodies with the sonic characteristics he wanted was climbing up, so you could read that as older basses having better quality wood due to the fact that all the good wood hasn't already been used.

I like the new features in recent basses, but there are a lot of guys who like 'em old school as well. Some say that the graphite bars in the neck have a negative effect on the tone, but I don't notice it on mine.

Just to show you that opinions are like-- Uh, well, you know...
 
#31,717
Sadowsky said:
Because the switch that turns on the battery is the output jack.
If the battery switch was located in the preamp on/off switch, it would make a very loud pop when you turn the preamp on or off.
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Right, I see it now. Otherwise, you'd need to add an on/off switch. Which would de-elegantise the pre. Which would bug me. Makes perfect sense.

And uh... Just goes to show you how much I know about wiring :-/
 
#31,718
ezrs said:
Folks, please help out a new owner! Wondering what I should expect from my new/old bass. Thanks!
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It will kill. Some people like the chambering, some don't. The graphite reduces dead spot likelihood but there are basses with no graphite and no dead spots, and basses with graphite and dead spots. Old NYC, new NYC, Tokyo, Metro, they are all equally likely to be the one for any given person, it just depends on the personality of each bass.

Only thing I don't like on a metro is the licensed tuners on the 5s vs USA hipshots.

There are of course lots of specs you can get on an NYC you can't on a metro, such as ash/rosewood and 1 3/4 nut on a 5. Gosh, that sounds a lot like the bass I just Jedi Mind Tricked mich into selling me :)
 
#31,719
Yes. The force is strong in this one. However packing it up this morning the force started to wear off! Great bass. If I could keep them all this would stay in the stable!

I did a mass gear analysis over the break buying basses and a new thunderfunk head with the goal of having a good fit old school rig and a great modern rig by the end. Problem is all the candidates were gold metalists for sure!

My wife is having a baby next week so my last endeavor in bass gear gluttony for a while! Had to act fast.
 
#31,720
Sadowsky said:
Here is a sneek peek for Club Sadowsky members. This is our new prewired preamp assembly for retrofitting the Sadowsky Preamp to other instruments. We are working on the packaging now and hope to have it on our Online Store soon.
Includes control plate and knobs. There is also enough wire length between pots to accommodate 4 in line rear mount as well as diamond patterns too.

Installation requires moving the jack to the side and installing a 9V battery holder.

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Hey Roger!

Not to pester you, but I just bought an older Fender J Deluxe specifically to slap one of these units into. Any rough idea at your end on timing?

Thanks! You and your staff ROCK!
 

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