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Club Sadowsky!!!

To those of you that own or have owned both, how sonically accurate a replacement would the Will Lee be for a stock Fender Jazz?

I know the Will Lee can do things that a stock passive Jazz can't do, but I am thinking of the times when I just want "dat Jazz sound" - i.e. passive, single-coils, growl.
I agree with the general consensus here... as long as you're not a purist, you'll likely be much happier with the Sadowsky sound, and it's true that passive mode will get you closer to a Fender sound, but I suspect you'll stay in active mode all the time anyway, and yah, even if you are a purist, you won't say it sounds exactly like a Fender, but you'll still feel it's in the J tone camp for sure.

Otherwise, if you are a purist, well, the answer is simple, if you absolutely have to have exactly the Fender sound... well... buy a Fender.

Second bonus question: Is there a huge difference between maple-necked Will Lee models and rosewood-necked ones?

I was listening to various videos of Will Lee models being played (mostly by the man himself) and found that I often guessed incorrectly as to whether I was hearing maple or rosewood (when the video didn't show the bass immediately as the audio was playing), so I am thinking that the overall construction (and preamp) might lessen the sonic effect that neck wood has.
Beware of recordings... depending on LOTS of unknowns in the circumstances, they do NOT tell the whole and/or accurate story.

The maple board is going to give you a lot more edge and aggression... almost harsh especially on slap when playing solo at home, but gives you a really nice high end cut in a thick mix. The rosewood is going to be a lot smoother... the high end won't really come out as much in a mix UNLESS you slap. But also be careful not to confuse Pau Ferro with Rosewood. Pau Ferro is more between maple and ebony than it is any rosewood tonally.

In short, if you like a stronger high end profile, but want a rosewood-like aesthetic, Pau Ferro/Morado is a great choice. But if you want a more classic/warmer tone, you gotta' get some flavor of a real rosewood.
 
I agree with all this, and the Rosewood v Pau Ferro thing is spot on. Well said.

I agree with the general consensus here... as long as you're not a purist, you'll likely be much happier with the Sadowsky sound, and it's true that passive mode will get you closer to a Fender sound, but I suspect you'll stay in active mode all the time anyway, and yah, even if you are a purist, you won't say it sounds exactly like a Fender, but you'll still feel it's in the J tone camp for sure.

Otherwise, if you are a purist, well, the answer is simple, if you absolutely have to have exactly the Fender sound... well... buy a Fender.

Beware of recordings... depending on LOTS of unknowns in the circumstances, they do NOT tell the whole and/or accurate story.

The maple board is going to give you a lot more edge and aggression... almost harsh especially on slap when playing solo at home, but gives you a really nice high end cut in a thick mix. The rosewood is going to be a lot smoother... the high end won't really come out as much in a mix UNLESS you slap. But also be careful not to confuse Pau Ferro with Rosewood. Pau Ferro is more between maple and ebony than it is any rosewood tonally.

In short, if you like a stronger high end profile, but want a rosewood-like aesthetic, Pau Ferro/Morado is a great choice. But if you want a more classic/warmer tone, you gotta' get some flavor of a real rosewood.
 
I've just been re-reading the "Full Circle" article about the re-introduction of the Acoustic 360 bass amp in the May 2013 issue of "BassPlayer". It's a fridge but has always been one of my favourites & the improved preamp has got my attention. It might be awhile 'till it's stocked here because of it's size / weight & I'm curious if anyone has had the pleasure of running their Sadowsky through one in a demo situation. The REAL way to audition it is to get way out front with a wireless. Quite the amp for large venues! John Paul Jones' J bass is probably a good reference.
I recommend reading the article, if nothing more.
B.
EDIT: http://www.bassplayer.com/article/full-circle-360-degrees-of-the-acoustic-360/151441

This article is a must-read - The interview with designers Harvey Gerst and Russ Allee is great, and Russ Allee is one of the greats - design work for Acoustic, Eden, SWR, and his own Amplified Musical Products line (AMP), which evolved into the mighty Thunderfunk amp of today.
 
I agree with all this, and the Rosewood v Pau Ferro thing is spot on. Well said.

Think of pau ferro at the center of a circle, with elements of rosewood, ebony and maple circling about in nearly equal measure. Perhaps a hair more like ebony than the other two (and maybe a good bit further from the rosewood, if it is of the Indian variety). Personally, I dig it a lot!
 
This article is a must-read - The interview with designers Harvey Gerst and Russ Allee is great, and Russ Allee is one of the greats - design work for Acoustic, Eden, SWR, and his own Amplified Musical Products line (AMP), which evolved into the mighty Thunderfunk amp of today.

The approach of a degree of mid attenuation reminds me of Roger's sensibility w/his preamp. I would love to hear the new voicing upgrade of the preamp to better fit the cab that the new one has.
B.
 
May I have a number? I've got this one.
 

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I agree with the general consensus here... as long as you're not a purist, you'll likely be much happier with the Sadowsky sound, and it's true that passive mode will get you closer to a Fender sound, but I suspect you'll stay in active mode all the time anyway, and yah, even if you are a purist, you won't say it sounds exactly like a Fender, but you'll still feel it's in the J tone camp for sure.

Otherwise, if you are a purist, well, the answer is simple, if you absolutely have to have exactly the Fender sound... well... buy a Fender.

Yup... nicely said, Vic. My 1¢ worth: Fender gives the most authentic Fender tone, but Sadowsky gives me the tone (and playability, build quality, etc) I always wanted from Fender.
 
Yup... nicely said, Vic. My 1¢ worth: Fender gives the most authentic Fender tone, but Sadowsky gives me the tone (and playability, build quality, etc) I always wanted from Fender.
Yep. I'm a convert. I started on Fender, and I feel like I "graduated" to Sadowsky. :)
 
Looking to get some Sadowsky knowledge from the owners

I have little to no experience with Sadowsky's...I know that they are world renowned for having "THAT SOUND" and that is an incredible sound...

How would you say it fares in copping a more traditional passive Fender tone?

Seems to me that the individuals looking for the Sadowsky sound buy a Sadowsky and the more vintage type opt for the Alleva-Coppola, Nordstrand, etc...or am I way off?

Any info would be very helpful
 
You interpret this correctly.
One potential way to "look at sound here" would be:
Passive Fender
Alleva, whose preamp is very organic
Nordstrand; whose preamp is less organic the more you use it; in a good and musical way
Sadowsky, whose preamp sounds active, in a good and musical way.

All these basses have (or offer) passive mode to their preamps, and so, can do a more or less creditable Fender Thing; given that you get their equivilant single coil pickup.

Looking to get some Sadowsky knowledge from the owners

I have little to no experience with Sadowsky's...I know that they are world renowned for having "THAT SOUND" and that is an incredible sound...

How would you say it fares in copping a more traditional passive Fender tone?

Seems to me that the individuals looking for the Sadowsky sound buy a Sadowsky and the more vintage type opt for the Alleva-Coppola, Nordstrand, etc...or am I way off?

Any info would be very helpful