Not to derail the P discussion and Not trying to be a heretic; but...have any of you tried the Delano single pole J pups in a Sadowsky? Reason for asking is I put one of Roger's preamps in a 97 Fender J Deluxe to make a "cheater" Fender. As it turns out, I am getting pretty stellar results with the combination of the Suhr designed single slug pups and the Sadowsky preamp. I was thinking to try the single slug pups in my RV4; but, the Fender pups have become scarce as hen's teeth. The Delano's appear to be similar construction. Anyone tried those?
I had posted this a few weeks back, but got no responses. Most of you probably thought I was a heretic, lunatic, or both. You're probably right.
The reason I went looking in this direction is that I was doing gigs alternately with the RV4 and the '97 J Deluxe in the previous post, which I'd loaded with Roger's preamp. There may be some differences in the two preamps related to the mid pot thing; but, I started noticing that the RV4 humbuckers were sounding "mushy" for slap parts compared to the Suhr single slugs (sorry, Roger, absolutely love your stuff, but it is what it is...).
Getting no responses and failing to find any Suhr single slug pups available, I did find the Delano single slugs and finally bought and installed a pair of them to do the experiment.
First thing is, holy crap, have you ever looked at the work in the electronics cavity of a Sadowsky up close? They look like they are wired up by a master watchmaker. Precision work. Made me take a massive deep breath before touching the soldering. I took a picture:
Clean, clean!! Only issue I had with the pup swap is whatever soldering alloy is being used for that ground ring is a somewhat high melter. My Weller iron was around 800 F before that stuff would even soften. Sheesh.
So, here's the bass after the pup swap:
I waited until I tested the instrument in both Big Band and Modern Country Rock band setting.
The most telling feedback occurred in the 21 pc Big Band rehearsal. I showed the mod to the guitar player who runs the rhythm section (very experienced cat) at the beginning of rehearsal. He looks at me like I've lost my mind and says, "You did WHAT!?!" I explain that there were certain things the single slugs (in the Fender) were doing better and I'm just doing an experiment. So, rehearsal starts, we finish going over the first tune; and the band leader says "wow, the rhythm section sounds great, its got a real good feel to it tonight." We do a couple more tunes, and in the middle of a Route 66 chart, the band leader stops the whole band and says to me (way in the back), "what did you do to that bass? It sounds freakin' incredible tonight!" At that point the experiment turned into a mod for me. At the end of rehearsal, the guitar player says, "yeah, that sounds amazing." These cats know the bass cause I've been using it with them the last year and a half.
So, here's my take, if anyone else gets interested. These are NOT a substitute for traditional single coils. If that's your thing, don't bother thinking about it. Compared to the Suhr single slugs, the Delano's are darker with more clarity in the lower notes (outstanding in drop tuning), and have significantly more output. In fact, this bass now has output that is comparable to my Alembic Series I, which is saying a whole lot. The Sadowsky preamp handles it just fine. Where the Delano's really shine is in several areas: 1) the slap tone is like hitting a big sledgehammer on a piece of granite. Total clarity. They have a huge bell like tone that works really well for slapping. 2) They have a bell like tone; but, it is still kind of clanky in the Fender sense; and this works really well in the band mix. 3) The low notes, especially in drop tuning, speak with more authority than any J bass I have ever had.
Still not going to get rid of my trusty '62 J; but, this is now my working bass, and I don't see that changing any time soon. It just does everything well. If I'm a heretic, so be it.