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Club Sadowsky!!!

#18,441
Chasarms said:
It's a funny world. All the things described is exactly why I LOVE the modern.
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You know, my 24F 5 definitely wouldn't make my 'top 10' if I were to rate my basses only upon how they sounded when played solo (not in a band context). But, when it comes to sitting in a mix - any mix - and cutting through, but without overpowering anyone else, that bass is my clear #1. :cool:
 
#18,442
As always, Ken nails it better than I could :)

KJung said:
I'll jump in since I felt the same way. There is obviously nothing wrong with the Moderns, but they have a very strong voice (in the tone universe of the Ken Smith and Cirrus basses) due to those big humbuckers positioned close to the bridge. So, lots of space between the notes, lots of low mid bap, bap, bap, and a VERY modern top end (at least with the stock Seymour/Sadowsky pickups).

Interesting basses... very 'Mark King' type slap tone, very burpy and round and low mid punchy with both pickups dimed, and strangely enough, a VERY good P Bass tone when you solo the neck pickup.

Great basses if that is the tone profile (kind of like a fatter, less pingy Ken Smith to my ear) you dig.

If you get one of the 24 fret Sadowsky's with the Seymours in the J positions, it will sound like a J bass with humbuckers... wider, deeper, more absolute low end versus that round low mid push.
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#18,443
A little off-topic here.

Do any of you guys use the Ultimate Support GS-1000 for your Sadowskys?

I have several Hercules and I like them a lot, but they don't fit my bag (not my gigbag, but the bag where I carry the rest of my gear), but the GS-1000 can fit. What kind of material do they use for the hanger, where the neck rests. It doesn't seem to be covered with foam. can it dent the edges of the neck?

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TIA
 
#18,444
Fran Diaz said:
A little off-topic here.

Do any of you guys use the Ultimate Support GS-1000 for your Sadowskys?

I have several Hercules and I like them a lot, but they don't fit my bag (not my gigbag, but the bag where I carry the rest of my gear), but the GS-1000 can fit. What kind of material do they use for the hanger, where the neck rests. It doesn't seem to be covered with foam. can it dent the edges of the neck?

GS1000-ALTERNATE3.jpg


TIA
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Woah, I like that mech a lot better than my hercs... I gotta' get me one!
 
#18,445
KJung said:
I'll jump in since I felt the same way. There is obviously nothing wrong with the Moderns, but they have a very strong voice (in the tone universe of the Ken Smith and Cirrus basses) due to those big humbuckers positioned close to the bridge. So, lots of space between the notes, lots of low mid bap, bap, bap, and a VERY modern top end (at least with the stock Seymour/Sadowsky pickups).

Interesting basses... very 'Mark King' type slap tone, very burpy and round and low mid punchy with both pickups dimed, and strangely enough, a VERY good P Bass tone when you solo the neck pickup.

Great basses if that is the tone profile (kind of like a fatter, less pingy Ken Smith to my ear) you dig.

If you get one of the 24 fret Sadowsky's with the Seymours in the J positions, it will sound like a J bass with humbuckers... wider, deeper, more absolute low end versus that round low mid push.
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Thank you to both KJung and Chasarms for your input!

I will have to reconsider the pickup positions. The sound you described in your last paragraph is more in line with what I'd want, compared to that of your description of the "standard" Modern.
 
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Vic said:
Woah, I like that mech a lot better than my hercs... I gotta' get me one!
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Vic, this is just a slight update to the original 1000 that you didn't like. Smaller than the Hercules for sure, but it still has that plastic pressure mechanism to lock in the height, and the plastic leg lock, versus the much more sturdy Hercules.

OK stand, but will not take the abuse of the Hercules.

Vic, if you like the standard 'self sizing' yolk like this, Hercules makes one now that is similar to this.

To answer Fran: It works fine with the Sadowsky, and as long as you keep your eye on those plastic locking mechanisms over time, you will be fine. It does fold up nice and small.
 
#18,449
SpectorDetector said:
Never understood why you'd want the bass to be anchored to the stand if it got knocked over? The stands I use have a rubber latch to lock the bass on, never used it once. This is of course if you haven't some how secured the stand to the floor so it can't be tipped over.
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The beauty of these hanging stands is that, given the very low center of gravity, and the wide leg stance, it is virtually impossible to knock them over.

I agree that the locking mechanism on the Ultimate stands is pretty useless, and I never used the rubber strap design on mine either. For the Hercules, they are required, since it isn't really a tilt back yoke mechanism. I assume the logic is you are more likely to knock the bass out of the yoke versus knocking the stand over.

These are great stands for Jazz basses, given the assymetrical design and side jack, which makes standard Hamilton type stands a bit iffy. With a front jack P Bass, zero issue with those types of stands.
 
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SpectorDetector said:
Never understood why you'd want the bass to be anchored to the stand if it got knocked over? The stands I use have a rubber latch to lock the bass on, never used it once. This is of course if you haven't some how secured the stand to the floor so it can't be tipped over.
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I've never once experienced the actual stand getting knocked over. But, with the "traditional" style stands that have the "U" cradle at the bottom, I have, unfortunately more than once, had the bass knocked out of the stand. It doesn't take much of a bump for it to fall out of the cradle. I have had the rubber retainer save me before, but like most, I don't bother with it most of the time because it's a hassle.

As Ken said, the Herc stands have a wide enough footprint that it would take a pretty significant event to knock them over, and with the hanging design, the issue above is of no concern. I love them. I don't care how clunky or big they are to lug around. I'm not sticking a $3-4K bass on a crappy stand!
 
#18,453
I almost never have room on a bandstand for a stand, so I use my gig bag between sets, like chef, but mine folds out of view while I am playing, I have used Mooradian bags for decades. I don't like hanging stands in general, as I have had to repair many (on retail floors) guitars and basses with damage at the headstock.
 
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Chasarms said:
I've never once experienced the actual stand getting knocked over. But, with the "traditional" style stands that have the "U" cradle at the bottom, I have, unfortunately more than once, had the bass knocked out of the stand. It doesn't take much of a bump for it to fall out of the cradle. I have had the rubber retainer save me before, but like most, I don't bother with it most of the time because it's a hassle.

As Ken said, the Herc stands have a wide enough footprint that it would take a pretty significant event to knock them over, and with the hanging design, the issue above is of no concern. I love them. I don't care how clunky or big they are to lug around. I'm not sticking a $3-4K bass on a crappy stand!
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+1
 
#18,457
SpectorDetector said:
Do you think the Hercules is any more stable than this: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

I didn't notice the adjusting neck width feature on that Hercules, that is cool. I must have 7 GS-100's.
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Getting a bit OT here, but yes, that is the Ultimate we have discussed above. Nice stand, but some issues... lots of plastic, and a plastic 'clamp' that fixes the height that has actually failed on me. The advantages to this stand is that it is quite small, very light, and the simple 'universal yoke' works very well. The Hercules is much sturdier, and the extra size is a small price to pay, given that, for the Sadowsky guys, it is holding a $3,000 to $4,500 investment.
 
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I have one of the regular Hercules GS414B single stands that I take when I'm just bringing one bass, and one of their triple stands for when I'm bringing more than one and have no problems with my basses being in danger on stage.

However I also bought one of the GS402B mini stands and will never, ever use it. It fit quite nicely in a gig bag, but when I put my bass on it, I had absolutely zero confidence that it wouldn't tip over. A slight breeze might have been sufficient. :eek:
 

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