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#386
nrssab said:
Thank you so much Helge!
I'm really curious to hear those Delano Xtenders. What do you think about them?

Enjoy the bass.
Looking forward to hear the recordings. What kind of music will you be using it for?

Regards,
NR
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Hello NR!
Yes, the Delano Pickup is very special, has almost a piezo sound to it. I actually bought it because I hav some trouble with my left hand, so I haven't been able to play my double bass properly for almost a year now:crying:. The Thinline fretless is very easy to play, and at the same time the nearest I have come to an acoustic sound.

I really don't know much of the technical detail, but the guy who sold me the bass told me that the four coils in the pickup together with the oval chape creates a very special pattern of magnetic fields. The result is, anyway, that you can make the Thinline sound in many different ways, by adjusting the three tone controls (the lowest knob you see in the picture is actually two knobs in one, with a ring controling the bass, and the middle knob for the midrange tone. The other two is treble and volume).

Perhaps it will take some time before I have studio recordings with my band (we play music from Latin America: Boleros, Tangos, Cumbia, Samba, that sort of stuff, and also some tex-mex, many songs written by the band's primary force, a chilean singer/songwriter, Miguel Baez). But I'll try making some recordings on my pc, just with the Thinline, eventually putting my EBS ValveDrive preamp in between. But I'm quite busy in the forthcoming days/weeks with both gigs, job and family things (never a day off), so I won't promise when! :bassist:

But I'll be back...:smug:

HelgeBas
 
#388
Well, as as a new TB-member I have discovered the narrow boundaries for uploads directly to this site, and I fully understand and respect this. So I have deleted my former post with pictures of my new Sandberg Thinline and instead I have made a Google document with my pictures:

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#390
DAMN!!!!, i gotta say that's possibly the most fun sounding fretless i have heard.

its very reminiscent of les claypool/primus' "fish on" tone to me, and the lows have that soft yet big sound i only seem to hear from an upright.

the thinline model reminds me alot of the Jonas hellborg status graphite sig from a few years back, they have similar tone too :)
 
#391
HelgeBas said:
Well, here's a small soundclip of my new Sandberg Custom Thinline 5-string fretless. No place for more, I'm afraid:hmm:

HelgeBas:bassist:


Think my clip is here now...
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Helge, I must say thank you soooooooooo much! You really gave me all and even more than I expected. The sound of the Thinline is really cool.
Before (short time ago) I was really thinking of getting a Thinline, but for now I decided to go for a Electric Upright to get the feel of the proper stuff, so I will hopefully purchase one soon.
I'm sorry to hear that about you're hand, but you have taken a great choise in geting a Thinline. They are perfect for that sound, and with some LaBella Nylon strings it would be very close to a doublebass, just like those Rob Allen basses.
Thank you so much for the soundclip, I respect a lot that you made one having so little time. And those pickups are something special!

Would be great to hear more of you and you're band, I wish you all the best. Thank you. Those pictures are also great!

Best regards,

NR.
 
#392
I've also got a Sandberg Cali JJ 5. The neck on this bass to me is incredible, the playability and weight feels real good. However, I must say that I'm not too fund of the Glockenklang 2 band preamp in this bass, I'm planning on swapping it out, don't know what I'm getting yet. But overall, this bass is a keeper, will get some pics up later
 
#393
nrssab said:
I decided to go for a Electric Upright to get the feel of the proper stuff, so I will hopefully purchase one soon.
...with some LaBella Nylon strings it would be very close to a doublebass, just like those Rob Allen basses.
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Thanks for your kind response, NR:)

My own first choice was also an electric upright, namely the Yamaha SLB200 Silent Bass, (which I have yearned for for years, mainly because of the far more easy transportation). But when it came to reality, I discovered that with my poor hand, my own double bass was more easily (less troublesome) played than the Yamaha.

So I ended up with the Sandberg Thinline, which is half hollowbody, like the Rob Allen basses, and has a great, piezo-like tone. But unlike the Rob Allen Basses, with their real piezo pickups, you can't play a Thinline with pure nylon strings because of its magnetic pickups.

But perhaps you mean the LaBella nylon coated steel strings? Have you any experience with these strings? And with flat versus round wounded?
 
#394
witness said:
I've also got a Sandberg Cali JJ 5. The neck on this bass to me is incredible, the playability and weight feels real good. However, I must say that I'm not too fund of the Glockenklang 2 band preamp in this bass, I'm planning on swapping it out, don't know what I'm getting yet. But overall, this bass is a keeper, will get some pics up later
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thanks witness, id heard that sandbergs had glokenklans in them and now i know for sure :)

i actually really like the pre, it seems really clean and not to colorful (by that i mean it lets the bass sound rather than the pre), what is it that you don't dig on yours? and what replacments do you have in mind?
 
#395
darthplagis said:
thanks witness, id heard that sandbergs had glokenklans in them and now i know for sure :)

i actually really like the pre, it seems really clean and not to colorful (by that i mean it lets the bass sound rather than the pre), what is it that you don't dig on yours? and what replacments do you have in mind?
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You might want to check into it, but I don't think Sandberg is using the Glokenklang pre's anymore, I believe they are using Delanos or their own name brand. The Glokenklang in my bass is a bit too light/clean, it dosent have that BUMP that I'm looking for. I run it in active mode through my outboard Sadowsky pre, and it definately sounds better to me. As far as replacements, I'm not sure right now, I'm looking for something with that big bass bump of the Sadowsky pre but with more mid presence
 
#396
I haven't heard or remember seeing anything to suggest that Sandberg are no longer fitting Glockenklang Pre-Amps as standard?

I'll see if i can find out.

Are you sure you're not getting confused with the Delano Pickups? Delano's are fitted as standard now whereas they used to be an extra.
 
#397
HelgeBas said:
Thanks for your kind response, NR:)

My own first choice was also an electric upright, namely the Yamaha SLB200 Silent Bass, (which I have yearned for for years, mainly because of the far more easy transportation). But when it came to reality, I discovered that with my poor hand, my own double bass was more easily (less troublesome) played than the Yamaha.

So I ended up with the Sandberg Thinline, which is half hollowbody, like the Rob Allen basses, and has a great, piezo-like tone. But unlike the Rob Allen Basses, with their real piezo pickups, you can't play a Thinline with pure nylon strings because of its magnetic pickups.

But perhaps you mean the LaBella nylon coated steel strings? Have you any experience with these strings? And with flat versus round wounded?
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Thank you for everything Helge!
I just looked up the Yamaha Silent Electric, it looks great I'd love to go for it. But for the start I'm thinking of getting a NS WAV, it's more economic and I'm also looking for a second hand one. So that when I get good I can get to something better.
One question would you sell your Yamaha Silent Bass, and how much would you ask for it if?

Yes those I meant, the LaBella nylon coated. I have experience with the same type of strings but from Rotosound. I actually ordered a set of LaBellas but they never arrived... The Rotosounds are quite good they give this uprightish sound and feel, but they have a plastic feel and not much sustain.
I made a thread some time ago in the sting section, here is the LINK about these type of strings and I learned quite a lot. The Nylon roundwounds are not really the right thing if you are looking for a doublebass sound, and the favourite strings of bassists are the LaBellas. Which are said to have a warm sound and enough sustain!
I remeber that in the shop LINK they had a Sandberg Thinline 5 string equipped with LaBella nylons (that was also the bass I was thinking of buying but in a sudden the 5 string and 4 string version where gone). So if you desire you can contact Gregor, he is a great guy and I bet he can tell you about how the Thinline sounded with the nylons, as he has played every bass they had in the store.

Keep us up to date on the how the Sandberg is doing.
Enjoy!

Regards,
NR
 
#398
Baker69 said:
I haven't heard or remember seeing anything to suggest that Sandberg are no longer fitting Glockenklang Pre-Amps as standard?

I'll see if i can find out.

Are you sure you're not getting confused with the Delano Pickups? Delano's are fitted as standard now whereas they used to be an extra.
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well the pre im not sure on its make, as i have not have the guard off to have a look at the gubbins inside, but i know i have the sandberg branded pickups, maybe delano's with the sandberg logo on instead? i imagine them to have a sort of deal, as it was sandberg and clover that really got delano in the market.

but either way i LOVE the tone, i just wish i had got it when i fell in love with them a few years ago.
 
#399
Hello my dear Sandberg players,
I got answers to the questions that were being asked around.
As I was also quite curious about the changes that rumours have been talking about, I sent a email to Holger. For those who dont know Holger is the head and heart of Sandberg.

Here is his answer (I'll translate the most important):
Holger said:
wir verbauen immernoch die glockenklang elektroniken. sie werden extra für uns gefertigt, es klappt alles wunderbar und ich wüßte nicht warum wir wechseln sollten...
aber so ist es halt nun mal mit gerüchten (-;
es gibt einige modelle die wir mit den delanos ausrüsten, einige mit häussel pickups und einige mit unseren einigen. daran hat sich in den letzten 2-3 jahren auch nichts geändert.
grundsätzlich ist es modell und soundabhängig welche pickups wir in welchem bass verwenden. die häussels nehmen wir gerne für traditionell singlecoil mit alnicos, die delano mehr für einen linearen differenzierten sound in der humbucker konstruktion und unsere eigenen für die eher rockigere fette abteilung.
vielste grüße - holger
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Ok so what Holger sais is that they are still using the glockenklang electonics for all theire basses, these electronics are specially made for Sandberg.
There are some models that are equipped with Delano PUs others with Häussel and others with theire own Sandberg PUs. This has been same for the past 2-3 years.
He comments that it depends on the model and the type of sound that is asked. For the more traditional they use Häussels songlecoil AlNiCo PUs (For those who don't know Häussel is a german pickup manufacture, it is a one man company and he makes PUs on custom request). The Delanos are used for basses with a viarity of sounds and the Sandberg PUs are for the basses that have a fat rock sound to them.

I hope this answers some questions, if there are anymore please tell me and I'll contact Holger.

Enjoy the Sandbergs everyone! And keep on posting new pics! :-)

Regards,
NR
 
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