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Darkglass Anagram Multi FX Announced
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My example shows that it is possible, I am wondering @crishi, have you overread my post twiceor have you tried it and realized it doesn't work?
Does not work - at least with the DG Midi Switch.
It's absolutely possible to do preset and mode changes. It may depend on the capabilities of your MIDI controller, but it's possible.
Have not used the DG footswitch. I know it's capable of sending multiple, simultaneous commands with each footswitch. The issue may be that delays are needed between commands for the Anagram to properly read a preset change > mode change or vice versa. Either way, other MIDI controllers prove that this can be done with the Anagram.
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It's possible as long as your MIDI controller can send multiple messages per switch (and maybe insert a slight delay between sending each message depending on the Anagram's delay between reading each message). Kind of clunky, yes, but possible. For the scene switching, what you would probably need to do is set up 3 messages per footswitch:
MSG1: CC#85 value 3 (sets Anagram to "Scene" mode)
MSG2: CC#107 value 1-3 (switches to whichever scene you're looking for)
MSG3: CC#85 value 1 (switches Anagram back to "Preset" mode)
This is why I asked the OP of this request to outline what they're trying to do...
Presets and scenes are inherently not interchangeable, because they serve unique needs. I get why some people want to (and do) combine scenes with some stomp functionality. However, scenes are for making multiple parameter/toggle adjustments to a single, fixed signal chain, while presets are intended to change the blocks in the signal chain itself (along with parameters if desired).
Since the anagram can't simultaneously be in scene and preset mode, it makes most sense to give the use case and then decide the best way to tackle that.
I think the real issue is that the gap when changing presets is way too long to switch mid-song so having three footswitches you don't want to use most of the time is a weird allocation. Just have a midi footswitch toggle between scene mode and preset mode if quick switches between songs are necessary (if holding the third footswitch is too slow).
The simplest setup with external midi IMO is keeping the Anagram in scene mode and assigning the midi footswitches to send the knob CCs (20-25).
*shrugs* I personally prefer to stay exclusively in stomp mode and just set up macros through the bindings. But I also don't think there's any harm in answering Barghest's question and letting them see if their idea works for them or not.
Gotcha. I guess that is part of my point...
If you're needing seamless adjustments to your set signal chain mid-song, scene mode is the way to go and you can just change the scene 'preset' or 'bank' you're on between songs. Alternatively, you can use stomp mode or a combo of scene with some stomps, all of which give you seamless changes. In preset mode, you're still getting a delay and needing to change your effect block. It seems to make most sense to just use scene or stomp mode, and then change the preset you're on with a bank up/down or a specific preset command. Point being, you don't need to change from scene or stomp mode to change the preset you're on. So I don't understand the need to change into preset mode if you're relying heavily on scenes for mid-song changes.
Sorry, that's long-winded, but maybe I'm just misunderstanding the intent.
For what it' worth, I personally agree with you. If I set up my MIDI controller the way I laid it out for Barghest, I feel like I'd get real frustrated real quick with how little functional use I was getting out of the thing. However, sometimes people want things set up differently regardless of how much or little sense it may make to others.
Interesting, I wondered if it was based on LV2 plugins like the MOD Audio platform. There’s probably a bunch of stuff on the MOD forums that would be good reading for anyone aspiring to write their own plugins.
Have they said anything about dev tools to test plugins on the device?
Anagram sighting in Lollapalooza chile 2026!
Was checking out The Warning's set on the Lolla and I noticed what looks like the Anagram on Ale's board. At 2:18 you can hear it in action with the drums for the intro.
Was checking out The Warning's set on the Lolla and I noticed what looks like the Anagram on Ale's board. At 2:18 you can hear it in action with the drums for the intro.
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huh. Interesting to see one in the wild I guess. Except for me, that's exactly the kind of bass tone I don't want, or can't use for anything I do.
Now, I have been able to set up very useable bass signal chains on my Anagram, but as I go through the factory presets and those available on the Darkglass Suite, there certainly are a LOT of those kinds of sounds ... kind of heavy, grindy, metal-ish (pick your description) stuff.
Oh well, horses for courses, and everyone will have different needs.
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Presets on devices like this are meant to show what the device is capable of and how to build signal chains in the style intended by the creator.
They’re not meant to be used for your own repertoire (or for playing covers).
well, I kind of respectfully disagree. The manufacturer puts presets on the device that represent what they think users want. And, Darkglass being Darkglass, they put a lot of those types of grindy/heavy type of presets in there because that's a lot of what Darkglass is about as reflected by their tone shaping and distortion pedals.
IMO, the presets are not simply a capability statement, I suspect may users will go through the factory presets and choose a handful that appeal to them, or fit the music they play, and then tweak them as they like. But I think there will be plenty of users who just pick factory presets and not do much to them .... not every player wants to dive deeply into these very deep tech devices.
I think the experiences that players are reflecting on the MXR Bass Synth pedal is representative of this. If you read the Gigging With the MXR Bass Synth thread, you will see that there are players who dive deeply into the many tweakable options on the pedal, and there are also plenty of players who just use the presets.
Anyway, it's just my opinion, so it's hardly worth debating too much.
Hello all,
So I’ve had my anagram for about two months now. I’ve played out with it, I’ve tweaked it to my liking and here are a few things I’ve found (totally my opinion and ears):
1. It took my old set from 7 pedals (one of which was an HX stomp) down to 3 pedals. (The smaller footprint is awesome!)
2. IMO the anagram couldn’t quite mimic the Doom 2 and Mutron combo, so those are the two extras that stayed on the board.
3. The 3 jumper method from a cioks power supply caused a low level buzz in my signal chain. I switched to the WA canvas HP & 1 cable and it fixed it.
4. The newest firmware updates compressor is the BEES KNEES.
5. All in all, I’m really pleased. Super easy to use and really fun to play with. I’ve already preordered the expression pedal…
So I’ve had my anagram for about two months now. I’ve played out with it, I’ve tweaked it to my liking and here are a few things I’ve found (totally my opinion and ears):
1. It took my old set from 7 pedals (one of which was an HX stomp) down to 3 pedals. (The smaller footprint is awesome!)
2. IMO the anagram couldn’t quite mimic the Doom 2 and Mutron combo, so those are the two extras that stayed on the board.
3. The 3 jumper method from a cioks power supply caused a low level buzz in my signal chain. I switched to the WA canvas HP & 1 cable and it fixed it.
4. The newest firmware updates compressor is the BEES KNEES.
5. All in all, I’m really pleased. Super easy to use and really fun to play with. I’ve already preordered the expression pedal…
Amp/cab wise what’s everyone liking? I use the Super California head but cab wise I’ve been switching between the Berg Vintage Peggy and the Orange 115. I can’t seem to land on one.
Depends on the bass and the job I want the current preset to do, but I've found myself switching over to the Mountainino 6x10 more often than I thought I would. Next three would probably be the Peggy 8x10, the Darkglass Neo 2x12 (another surprise for me), and the Black and Yellow 4x10. Considering I spent a huge chunk of my career lugging around Markbass cabs I originally thought I'd be using nothing but the Black and Yellow 4x10, but here we are...
