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Darkglass Microtubes 900 Class D Amp

#321
rufus.K said:
Most of those don't come with power supplies, and most of the ones that do are the lower output modules. ICEpower modules aren't "distributed " to the general consumer, however there are some being resold.
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It has been a while since I have looked into these amps, but I remember there was several places that I could purchase them if I desired to.

A quick google search came up with a Parts-Express link:

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-Frank
 
#323
I could see somebody getting one of these instead of a B3K/VMT+B7K and just running the preamp section of the 700 to get the same effect as having those two or three pedals in a clean package with slightly less cable length in the signal chain. If it tries to compete with other 700W+ Class D amps hitting the market in the $700-1000, I could see this being a legitimate option for some people, anybody else feel the same way?
 
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Songbeard said:
I could see somebody getting one of these instead of a B3K/VMT+B7K and just running the preamp section of the 700 to get the same effect as having those two or three pedals in a clean package with slightly less cable length in the signal chain. If it tries to compete with other 700W+ Class D amps hitting the market in the $700-1000, I could see this being a legitimate option for some people, anybody else feel the same way?
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Yup. Said it a few posts back.
 
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Here's a pic from today at NAMM. I think black lettering would be more apropos.

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I just saw a post from NAMM from Bassicsstudio of the amp set on 2 Darkglass labeled cabs. Did anyone else see pics of the cabs?

I own the B7K and while DG seems to have a big following here, we will see what the amp brings to the table. I'm a tube amp fanatic and in this case, I would have to pass on the amp because the B7K with tubes is good for me. I do find the drive tones somewhat synthetic sounding at times without the grunt switch engaged. It'll be interesting to see what the pedal owners think of the overall tone and if they decide to stick with the pedals or go with the onboard effects in the amp.
 
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boomertech said:
It has been a while since I have looked into these amps, but I remember there was several places that I could purchase them if I desired to.

A quick google search came up with a Parts-Express link:

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-Frank
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Thats a factory buyout. You have to be an OEM to get the current products.
 
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teemuk said:
Just because certain modules are utilised doesn't mean the complete circuit of each and every design works the same way. A class-D module has a certain purpose, it amplifies with decent linearity and most of all with remarkable efficiency. ...But you one can complement the module with all kinds of external circuiry, which in the end defines how things really work.

Anyone familiar with electronic design knows "modules" or "integrated circuits" merely have a certain basic functionality, like, say, operational amplifiers. But what you configure around that basic functionality is not usually limited by the module, but by designer's imagination. For example, those basic "opamp" modules can be amplifiers, or they can be comparators, or they can perform analog mathematics... Whatever the designer chooses to do with them.

Power amp IC's are good example, being pretty much analogous to class-D amplifier modules. The module, as is, pretty much does what it's supposed to do. But if you complement it with circuit of different functionality the end result is not what the module does. The end result is what you designed the circuit to do. If you look at amplifiers from, say, Quilter, Vox or Peavey you'll find them using same "modules" or "ICs" what wide range of other amp use... but you'll also find external circuitry around those modules or ICs, which is the thing that makes the manufacturer's design unique from those of other manufacturers.

Saying that because amp A and amp B use the same module they must perform identically is pretty much equivalent to saying all amps that use same tubes must also perform identically. Many tube amps happen to have surprisingly similar tube configurations, yet they can can still sound widely different. Because they are designed differently.

It's not about the module. It's about how it's used. Class-D or certain power amp module, to me, really doesn't indicate anything concrete about a design. It's just a tiny part in entire design.
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Songbeard said:
I could see somebody getting one of these instead of a B3K/VMT+B7K and just running the preamp section of the 700 to get the same effect as having those two or three pedals in a clean package with slightly less cable length in the signal chain. If it tries to compete with other 700W+ Class D amps hitting the market in the $700-1000, I could see this being a legitimate option for some people, anybody else feel the same way?
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I would have preferred just a rack pre with the same footswitch able features. I've been using rack pre amps for years, I already have a few power amps. Spending more money for another power amp is getting redundant.

For all those complaining about it being class D the Darkglass b7k and b7k ultra actually get great dirty tones direct. Many of us who use these types of tones only use our cabs as monitors.
 
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Unfinely Tuned said:
I just saw a post from NAMM from Bassicsstudio of the amp set on 2 Darkglass labeled cabs. Did anyone else see pics of the cabs?

I own the B7K and while DG seems to have a big following here, we will see what the amp brings to the table. I'm a tube amp fanatic and in this case, I would have to pass on the amp because the B7K with tubes is good for me. I do find the drive tones somewhat synthetic sounding at times without the grunt switch engaged. It'll be interesting to see what the pedal owners think of the overall tone and if they decide to stick with the pedals or go with the onboard effects in the amp.
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Here's a glimpse of one of them. Same picture, different crop.

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I am very excited about this. A couple questions: the attack and grunt switches from the b3k/b7k don't appear on the microtubes 700. Will there be a way to approximate their function on the amp? Perhaps the tone knob? Also, besides the VMT/B3K switch, there's another switch on the left near the input that looks like it says microtubes. What will it's function be?
 
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nocalkind said:
I am very excited about this. A couple questions: the attack and grunt switches from the b3k/b7k don't appear on the microtubes 700. Will there be a way to approximate their function on the amp? Perhaps the tone knob? Also, besides the VMT/B3K switch, there's another switch on the left near the input that looks like it says microtubes. What will it's function be?
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Others speculated about the tone serving as "grunt/attack" as well, I certainly hope so, it'd be nice to vary *how* much of both you can dial in!! I'd find it especially useful with my fEARful as I found the "attack" switch in particular to be too much
 

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