I'm simply commenting on how the player in that clip sounded. When I played one myself, I did not sound like that.
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Dingwall Combustion NG2
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I'm simply commenting on how the player in that clip sounded. When I played one myself, I did not sound like that.
There are not many youtube demos where the player isn't clanky and sloppy, whether intentional or not. Someone playing with heavy technique only gives me an idea how that bass would be for me like 5% of the time. I'd love to hear someone play with smooth, clean technique. I think I may break out the video camera and play a few notes before I ship my NG2 to its new home.
That's good. I'm not a slapper. I'll give a few notes just to see, but it'll be under 10 seconds.
This was a Nov '15 message from Sheldon on the Dingwall forum:
"We'll unveil the Combustion and NG2 4-strings at NAMM in January but are taking orders right now so that there will be basses available soon after the show. So far the first run is about half sold out."
I've had my NG-2 for about 6 months now, and used it for every gig we've had so far. Best bass I've ever played. I've had people ask me something about it or my tone after every single gig. I run a lot of mids with a lot of clank to punch through with my band, and the NG-2 plus my Darkglass B7K and B3K are so dirty. I also have a Darkglass Tone Capsule in my Charvel 4 string with an EMG PJ set and it sounds killer too.
If you're debating on ordering one, do it. I chose the NG-2 over the standard Combustion model for several reasons. The NG-2 has stacked bridge pickups, which helps with that mid punchy kind of tone similar to how a Warwick Thumb has that "Thumb" tone. It's hard to duplicate because not many basses have those dual stacked bridge pickups. I think that plus the dual band mid EQ on the Darkglass Preamp are a wicked combination that really get me the tone that I've been looking for.
If you're debating on ordering one, do it. I chose the NG-2 over the standard Combustion model for several reasons. The NG-2 has stacked bridge pickups, which helps with that mid punchy kind of tone similar to how a Warwick Thumb has that "Thumb" tone. It's hard to duplicate because not many basses have those dual stacked bridge pickups. I think that plus the dual band mid EQ on the Darkglass Preamp are a wicked combination that really get me the tone that I've been looking for.
That is an interesting observation (comparing with the Warwick Thumb) and confirms that the Combustion standard was a better choice for me since I prefer a more traditional and versatile tone, yet I can also appreciate why some prefer the nolly. So many thanks for that since I was unable to try either before making my purchase. I sold my Warwick a while ago since it never quite gave me the tone I wanted. Sheldon has made a great marketing decision offering both the NG2 and the standard side by side - caters for all tastes and styles.I've had my NG-2 for about 6 months now, and used it for every gig we've had so far. Best bass I've ever played. I've had people ask me something about it or my tone after every single gig. I run a lot of mids with a lot of clank to punch through with my band, and the NG-2 plus my Darkglass B7K and B3K are so dirty. I also have a Darkglass Tone Capsule in my Charvel 4 string with an EMG PJ set and it sounds killer too.
If you're debating on ordering one, do it. I chose the NG-2 over the standard Combustion model for several reasons. The NG-2 has stacked bridge pickups, which helps with that mid punchy kind of tone similar to how a Warwick Thumb has that "Thumb" tone. It's hard to duplicate because not many basses have those dual stacked bridge pickups. I think that plus the dual band mid EQ on the Darkglass Preamp are a wicked combination that really get me the tone that I've been looking for.
I've had my NG-2 for about 6 months now, and used it for every gig we've had so far. Best bass I've ever played. I've had people ask me something about it or my tone after every single gig. I run a lot of mids with a lot of clank to punch through with my band, and the NG-2 plus my Darkglass B7K and B3K are so dirty. I also have a Darkglass Tone Capsule in my Charvel 4 string with an EMG PJ set and it sounds killer too.
If you're debating on ordering one, do it. I chose the NG-2 over the standard Combustion model for several reasons. The NG-2 has stacked bridge pickups, which helps with that mid punchy kind of tone similar to how a Warwick Thumb has that "Thumb" tone. It's hard to duplicate because not many basses have those dual stacked bridge pickups. I think that plus the dual band mid EQ on the Darkglass Preamp are a wicked combination that really get me the tone that I've been looking for.
Just how close is the NG2 tone to a Thumb when it is clean?
I can agree with you there. The standard Combustion is a great bass. I looked into one a couple of years ago before the NG-2 was announced. I follow Doug @ Darkglass a lot of Facebook and on the TB Darkglass threads, so finding out that 1) there was a Darkglass preamp coming out and 2) that there was a Dingwall with it coming standard.... Those 2 things made my mind up instantly.
I think that even with the stacked bridge pickups you can still get a decent amount of tones out of it since you can turn the preamp on/off with the flick of a switch, and the 4 point selector switch on the NG-2 is GREAT. I run mine on the Series selection and it's like a massive wall of tone hitting you like a ton of bricks. My last main bass before I got my NG-2 was an Ibanez BTB 785 with Bartolini MK2s and Piezos in the bridge. I always ran it with both pickups because the tone was very even and clean in the mix. For some people, the NG-2 is the best choice. For others, the Combustion is just as good. I would of gladly gotten a standard Combustion had the NG-2 not come out. I can reassure you that you made an excellent choice.
It's really hard to say. I was taking Skype lessons with Mark Michell when he got his new Warwick Thumb. Pic here for reference
Holy sh*t that thing is sexy. Lol. Anywho.... In our lessons he said that a lot of why he uses the Thumbs is because of the stacked bridge pickups and he thinks that part of why Nolly went with that pickup location. Actually I now remembered that Nolly has a 6 string afterburner with 3 pickups all lined up and he really liked the two stacked in the back. Hence why he wanted that incorporated his signature Combustion.
I can find the link where he talks about it if you want.... But I'm digressing right now.
How close is it to the Thumb clean? Mark Michell and I tinkered around a little during our Skype lessons and I kind of played with my EQ a bunch to see if I could mimic his tone and I think it came fairly close, but it definitely had its own flair to the sound. I think if I turned the Darkglass Preamp off I could get closer to it, but it's honestly very difficult to NOT play with the DG Tone Capsule on. It's just got a nice boost that you never want to be without. Same for the Series choice for the selector switch. You can run Neck, Series, Parallel, or Bridge.... My setting STAYS locked on the series choice. It's MASSIVE.
On a few cleaner parts of our live set I need a little less punch, and as much as I'd love to reach down and turn the preamp off, it's so much easier to turn my Darkglass B7K off on the floor. I don't have the agility to be switching stuff off and on on my bass live so I still to controlling most of my tone alterations from my pedals.
But for the record, the list of basses that I'd eventually like are 1) A Thumb, 2) a 6 string, and 3) a fretless... Not necessarily all in one though.
I also think a little mentioned but considerable reason why the new Combustions have taken off is the new neck shape which is apparently quite different and an improvement on the earlier models.
All this makes me wonder what magic there must be in the higher range models if this is just their "starter " range.
All this makes me wonder what magic there must be in the higher range models if this is just their "starter " range.
Filmed right after I woke up today (I'm so sorry). Straight from my Samsung G6, through my Tecamp Puma 900 set flat into my Genz NX2-212T its the tweeter at 50%. It's a pretty neutral rig, IMO. I had to get this thing done before I packed and shipped this bass out to @nervous. Sorry in advance for the playing. And if you're wondering, NO SLAP.
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This is funny to me because locally there are a number of Dingwall users as well as Greenboy owners.
Filmed right after I woke up today (I'm so sorry). Straight from my Samsung G6, through my Tecamp Puma 900 set flat into my Genz NX2-212T its the tweeter at 50%. It's a pretty neutral rig, IMO. I had to get this thing done before I packed and shipped this bass out to @nervous. Sorry in advance for the playing. And if you're wondering, NO SLAP.
Nice playing. Thanks for the review. Definitely shows that these basses have potential for use outside of extreme metal settings.
I think I may have to start saving pennies for a Dingwall in the new year... actually we technically don't have pennies anymore, so nickles I guess...
Regardless, the fact that the Combustion and NG-2 both get the same routing, I'd much rather get the Combustion in 3TSB finish with an extra pickguard, and then experiment with pickup placement myself.
Filmed right after I woke up today (I'm so sorry). Straight from my Samsung G6, through my Tecamp Puma 900 set flat into my Genz NX2-212T its the tweeter at 50%. It's a pretty neutral rig, IMO. I had to get this thing done before I packed and shipped this bass out to @nervous. Sorry in advance for the playing. And if you're wondering, NO SLAP.
Thanks so much for posting! I would like to have heard it slapped, but going through several settings fingerstyle is more useful for getting a good idea of this bass' tone. I now officially have a bit of NG2 GAS.
It is like a stingray. Similar slapped. I think it is more refined and has more available bottom than a stingray, and even more flexible. It does clean very well, and is definitely not shy in a mix. But if you back off and play more subtly it will warm up nicely.
A Stingray style bass with wider spacing and an even better B is something I could love.
