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Sorry, the way the question was worded, I just couldn't pass up the opportunity for the sarcastic answer.

I don't think anybody in the world would ever notice any difference in a live gig situation, unless it was a highly articulate bass solo with all tone controls flat or higher.
In a studio recording, you might notice some difference, but still probably not a heck of a lot. The neck being long and being parallel to the strings has much more of an impact on the tone than the body wood does, in my opinion.
So I think either one would be fine, it more comes down to the specific piece of wood rather than just the type of wood.
If I were designing the instrument myself, I would choose Swamp Ash if I wanted it to be lighter, and Northern Ash if I didn't care about weight and only cared about tone. (For example that incredible Super J five that I just sold was Northern Ash with a wenge neck, and the tone and sustain of that thing was just ridiculous, it pretty much kills every other bass out there.) But again, I would contend that it is not only the type of wood, but the specific pieces of wood. And that is luck of the draw - you don't know until you build it and find out whether or not it is a winner. Ken Smith told me he would drop the piece of wood on the floor to see what type of sound it makes, and then hold it up to his ear and tap on it all over the place to hear how consistently it resonates before he decides how to cut it and whether to use it or not. That is a level of skill that probably not too many people on this planet even have. Without that type of skill, it just comes down to "build it and see how it turns out." And even with that skill, there are still a lot more variables that go into the equation, relating to type and method of construction.

If Walnut were an option, I might choose that instead of either of the others. Speaking of which, would be nice if Sheldon offered Walnut as an option...

I've never understood why luthiers have not employed any testing using an acoustic resonance hammer. The whole tapping thing seems inherently flawed. One could develop a profile and a desirable feature set and QC program for woods that would not be entirely subjective, but based on strictly controlled data.
 
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I thought the necks were the same on the four string Supers, but my Super J was very, very slim, and the Super P is more comfortable. At least for me. After playing the fives and six strings, the Super J 4 was tiny. The Super P neck is very nice. And I like the 19mm spacing over my AB’s 18 mm.

My black Super P weighs in well under 8 lb with no neck dive, and that is with the detuner on the E. Probably just a few grams difference between that and the standard tuner. The body is slimmer, and the contours are comfortable. The high gloss finish seems to be pretty tough, but I baby it. The pickguard quickly got scratched and swirled from resting my pinky nail while slapping. I’m considering a white pearl guard, but I’d like to make it myself. Anyone have a source for pickguard material of that size?

The hybrid tone takes a good bit of exploring, but there are cool sounds all through the range. Especially if you like to slap.

This is the first strictly P I’ve had, the others all had a bridge pickup. There are definitely more possibilities with the two pick up system, but I went for simple and light weight. No regrets here. I appreciate the weight every time I pick it up.
 
I thought the necks were the same on the four string Supers, but my Super J was very, very slim, and the Super P is more comfortable. At least for me. After playing the fives and six strings, the Super J 4 was tiny. The Super P neck is very nice. And I like the 19mm spacing over my AB’s 18 mm.

My black Super P weighs in well under 8 lb with no neck dive, and that is with the detuner on the E. Probably just a few grams difference between that and the standard tuner. The body is slimmer, and the contours are comfortable. The high gloss finish seems to be pretty tough, but I baby it. The pickguard quickly got scratched and swirled from resting my pinky nail while slapping. I’m considering a white pearl guard, but I’d like to make it myself. Anyone have a source for pickguard material of that size?

The hybrid tone takes a good bit of exploring, but there are cool sounds all through the range. Especially if you like to slap.

This is the first strictly P I’ve had, the others all had a bridge pickup. There are definitely more possibilities with the two pick up system, but I went for simple and light weight. No regrets here. I appreciate the weight every time I pick it up.
What is the wood combination?

I have to agree on the tone fusion. Last week at the gig with my friend’s SPZ a slight turn towards the midcut gave a very cool slap tone (not that i slap often)
 
I suspect my Super P has an alder body, underneath all that glossy blackness. Neck is maple with Birdseye maple fretboard.

I never expected I’d own a black P. I went for the lightest Dingwall I could find with four strings. Super sexy.

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I suspect my Super P has an alder body, underneath all that glossy blackness. Neck is maple with Birdseye maple fretboard.

I never expected I’d own a black P. I went for the lightest Dingwall I could find with four strings. Super sexy.

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Looks so classy! Looking that Dingwall pickup makes me want to go with only the tone fusion, too :laugh:
 
Hey everyone, I just noticed on the DW site that Canadian D Birds are using khaya bodies whereas the Gen 1’s were mahogany, I believe.

Looks like the import D Birds are using mahogany. Does anyone know if that’s a sourcing issue with North America or did Sheldon switch for tonal reasons to khaya on the Custom’s?

I was watching a video last night were the luthier mentioned it’s getting harder and harder to source good mahogany in the US, hence my wondering.
 
Desperately waiting for a headless Dingwall to be revealed. Kiesel is making a really cool headless model with the Zeus, and it's given me some ideas. Also, Hipshot makes the bridge for that model with 19 mm spacing. *hint*

So, yes - an AB1 3X, headless, passive with s/p switches, maple/rosewood neck/fretboard with 19 mm spacing? MAKE IT HAPPEN. Of course, finished in Candy Pink Metallic. There's no other finish. ;)
 
My Headless would or could be:

-Up to 6 strings
-Made in Canada( no question)
-I think I’d be good with medium scale. Long scale would be fine but my thinking is if we are going headless let’s then make it as compact as possible for transport reasons. I don’t know what a C would look like on a medium scale is my only concern.

I guess that’s really the only factors that come to mind for me.