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Which one of the two, though :laugh:
Sorry, the way the question was worded, I just couldn't pass up the opportunity for the sarcastic answer.

I don't think anybody in the world would ever notice any difference in a live gig situation, unless it was a highly articulate bass solo with all tone controls flat or higher.
In a studio recording, you might notice some difference, but still probably not a heck of a lot. The neck being long and being parallel to the strings has much more of an impact on the tone than the body wood does, in my opinion.
So I think either one would be fine, it more comes down to the specific piece of wood rather than just the type of wood.
If I were designing the instrument myself, I would choose Swamp Ash if I wanted it to be lighter, and Northern Ash if I didn't care about weight and only cared about tone. (For example that incredible Super J five that I just sold was Northern Ash with a wenge neck, and the tone and sustain of that thing was just ridiculous, it pretty much kills every other bass out there.) But again, I would contend that it is not only the type of wood, but the specific pieces of wood. And that is luck of the draw - you don't know until you build it and find out whether or not it is a winner. Ken Smith told me he would drop the piece of wood on the floor to see what type of sound it makes, and then hold it up to his ear and tap on it all over the place to hear how consistently it resonates before he decides how to cut it and whether to use it or not. That is a level of skill that probably not too many people on this planet even have. Without that type of skill, it just comes down to "build it and see how it turns out." And even with that skill, there are still a lot more variables that go into the equation, relating to type and method of construction.

If Walnut were an option, I might choose that instead of either of the others. Speaking of which, would be nice if Sheldon offered Walnut as an option...
 
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Which one of the two, though :laugh:

I've made this decision recently and decided to go with alder on a Super P, mostly for the reasons below and with the added bonus that it does not come with an upcharge, unlike ash.
I would probably have chosen ash if I were having a transparent finish as it looks nicer, but I'm going for a solid finish so alder it is.

I don't think anybody in the world would ever notice any difference in a live gig situation, unless it was a highly articulate bass solo with all tone controls flat or higher.
In a studio recording, you might notice some difference, but still probably not a heck of a lot.
 
Sorry, the way the question was worded, I just couldn't pass up the opportunity for the sarcastic answer.

I don't think anybody in the world would ever notice any difference in a live gig situation, unless it was a highly articulate bass solo with all tone controls flat or higher.
In a studio recording, you might notice some difference, but still probably not a heck of a lot. The neck being long and being parallel to the strings has much more of an impact on the tone than the body wood does, in my opinion.
So I think either one would be fine, it more comes down to the specific piece of wood rather than just the type of wood.
If I were designing the instrument myself, I would choose Swamp Ash if I wanted it to be lighter, and Northern Ash if I didn't care about weight and only cared about tone. (For example that incredible Super J five that I just sold was Northern Ash with a wenge neck, and the tone and sustain of that thing was just ridiculous, it pretty much kills every other bass out there.) But again, I would contend that it is not only the type of wood, but the specific pieces of wood. And that is luck of the draw - you don't know until you build it and find out whether or not it is a winner. Ken Smith told me he would drop the piece of wood on the floor to see what type of sound it makes, and then hold it up to his ear and tap on it all over the place to hear how consistently it resonates before he decides how to cut it and whether to use it or not. That is a level of skill that probably not too many people on this planet even have. Without that type of skill, it just comes down to "build it and see how it turns out." And even with that skill, there are still a lot more variables that go into the equation, relating to type and method of construction.

If Walnut were an option, I might choose that instead of either of the others. Speaking of which, would be nice if Sheldon offered Walnut as an option...

Walnut is available but not on a medium scale.
 
Sorry, the way the question was worded, I just couldn't pass up the opportunity for the sarcastic answer.

I don't think anybody in the world would ever notice any difference in a live gig situation, unless it was a highly articulate bass solo with all tone controls flat or higher.
In a studio recording, you might notice some difference, but still probably not a heck of a lot. The neck being long and being parallel to the strings has much more of an impact on the tone than the body wood does, in my opinion.
So I think either one would be fine, it more comes down to the specific piece of wood rather than just the type of wood.
If I were designing the instrument myself, I would choose Swamp Ash if I wanted it to be lighter, and Northern Ash if I didn't care about weight and only cared about tone. (For example that incredible Super J five that I just sold was Northern Ash with a wenge neck, and the tone and sustain of that thing was just ridiculous, it pretty much kills every other bass out there.) But again, I would contend that it is not only the type of wood, but the specific pieces of wood. And that is luck of the draw - you don't know until you build it and find out whether or not it is a winner. Ken Smith told me he would drop the piece of wood on the floor to see what type of sound it makes, and then hold it up to his ear and tap on it all over the place to hear how consistently it resonates before he decides how to cut it and whether to use it or not. That is a level of skill that probably not too many people on this planet even have. Without that type of skill, it just comes down to "build it and see how it turns out." And even with that skill, there are still a lot more variables that go into the equation, relating to type and method of construction.

If Walnut were an option, I might choose that instead of either of the others. Speaking of which, would be nice if Sheldon offered Walnut as an option...
Awesome reply! Thank you very much :)
I'd like to go with this look and I do think ash has a nice grain than alder (see attachment)

Do you remember how much did that SJ weigh?
 

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Kilos i'm assuming, right? That miiiight be a tad too heavy for me.

Out of experience, have you found that wenge/swamp ash basses tend to be neck heavy?

My ABZ6 is very light (7 lb 15 oz, or 3.6 Kg), and has a wenge neck. Not sure if the body is swamp ash or alder.
With a slippery strap, the neck drops right down to horizontal as soon as I let go of the bass. It doesn't dive abruptly to the floor like an old wenge-necked Warwick I once had, it slowly drops a little and stops at horizontal. With a suede-backed strap, it doesn't present a problem at all.

My Z3 is on the lighter side for a Z3 (9 lb 1 oz, or 4.13 Kg), and has a wenge neck and dual density ash body, with Ducatti white matte finish. With a slippery strap, the neck does not move at all when I let go of the bass. It stays perfectly balanced.

Those are the only two wenge-necked basses I have left to test with. (Both are available for sale by the way.)
 

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My ABZ6 is very light (7 lb 15 oz, or 3.6 Kg), and has a wenge neck. Not sure if the body is swamp ash or alder.
With a slippery strap, the neck drops right down to horizontal as soon as I let go of the bass. It doesn't dive abruptly to the floor like an old wenge-necked Warwick I once had, it slowly drops a little and stops at horizontal. With a suede-backed strap, it doesn't present a problem at all.

My Z3 is on the lighter side for a Z3 (9 lb 1 oz, or 4.13 Kg), and has a wenge neck and dual density ash body, with Ducatti white matte finish. With a slippery strap, the neck does not move at all when I let go of the bass. It stays perfectly balanced.

Those are the only two wenge-necked basses I have left to test with. (Both are available for sale by the way.)

ABZ are ash bodies. Selected pieces to be on the less heavy side.
 
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My ABZ6 is very light (7 lb 15 oz, or 3.6 Kg), and has a wenge neck. Not sure if the body is swamp ash or alder.
With a slippery strap, the neck drops right down to horizontal as soon as I let go of the bass. It doesn't dive abruptly to the floor like an old wenge-necked Warwick I once had, it slowly drops a little and stops at horizontal. With a suede-backed strap, it doesn't present a problem at all.

My Z3 is on the lighter side for a Z3 (9 lb 1 oz, or 4.13 Kg), and has a wenge neck and dual density ash body, with Ducatti white matte finish. With a slippery strap, the neck does not move at all when I let go of the bass. It stays perfectly balanced.

Those are the only two wenge-necked basses I have left to test with. (Both are available for sale by the way.)

The booklet of my SJ (Alder body/maple neck) says 8 lb 13 oz (~3.9 kg).
I'm probably gonna wait for Sheldon to reply to my email and then decide, but my eyes tell me to go with ash for that nice grain pattern :D
 
The booklet of my SJ (Alder body/maple neck) says 8 lb 13 oz (~3.9 kg).
I'm probably gonna wait for Sheldon to reply to my email and then decide, but my eyes tell me to go with ash for that nice grain pattern :D
You may be able to request a less heavy body.

I don’t know if they still do it but they offered a PZ in the past which was the same principals applied of trying to keep the weight lower
 
You may be able to request a less heavy body.

I don’t know if they still do it but they offered a PZ in the past which was the same principals applied of trying to keep the weight lower
I played my buddy's PZ at gig recently. Killer bass! it sounded great, but the body was bit too light and it did have some slight neck dive.
Sheldon mentioned they have started using heavier swamp ash, though