Dingwall Owners Club

[Wyvern]

I'm thinking I'll start keeping a drawstring bag behind my rig. I'll keep some spare cables in there (apart from my big box of spare cables that I bring to every gig), and I'll throw my pocket contents in there before the down beat. After our set I could just stuff the cables I used in there quickly to get off stage in a hurry, and my keys/wallet/phone/etc would already be in there.

The only thing about that is I don't like having all my valuables in once place. That's why I hate wallet phone cases- everything they need to rip you off and steal your identity.
If I had a big enough cab, I would rig up a hide hole

Or you could rock a fanny pack

 

[xnewyorka]

The only thing about that is I don't like having all my valuables in once place. That's why I hate wallet phone cases- everything they need to rip you off and steal your identity.
If I had a big enough cab, I would rig up a hide hole

Or you could rock a fanny pack

Personally, at gigs, I would always leave my wallet and cellphone locked in the glovebox of my car, and just keep a $20 bill and my driver's license, and maybe one credit card, in my pocket. The cellphone is a distraction when the entire focus should be on the gig.

Having the phone in a front pocket is a bad idea because (a) it looks silly, and (b) when a call or email comes in, it is likely to cause RFI that will get picked up by the bass and come out through the PA, and (c) you may be altering the DNA of your future offspring.

If you don't take a car to the gig, then yeah, a fanny pack is a good idea, as long as it doesn't have a buckle in front that scratches up the bass.

 

[Wyvern]

I had a phone no joke so bad in 2006 that when I got an incoming message it would go through all the PC's speakers in computer class! bzzzzt, be,be,be,zzzzzzzt.

Yeah, I want that against my head or next to my balls all day!

 

[packrat]

I had a phone no joke so bad in 2006 that when I got an incoming message it would go through all the PC's speakers in computer class! bzzzzt, be,be,be,zzzzzzzt.

Yeah, I want that against my head or next to my balls all day!

That was the old analogue cell phones. Modern digital phones use significantly lower power.

B>

 

[pbass6811]

I put my valuables in my gig bag, which is a backpack. It holds all my cables, tools, and other accessories. It's got a separate pocket for valuables and I keep it right next to my rig so I can get to stuff in case I need it. I gotta keep my phone handy during gigs, since that's how I control my IEM mix. Basses go in first upon arrival, and go out last when ready for departure.

The only thing that really irritates me, is if a show starts so early, that I hafta drive my gear to work and let it sit in the car. I always bring my basses inside, but the rest of my junk stays in the car. I have dark tinted windows and I cover it up, but ya' just never know. It's a compelling reason to go amp-less, one to five things less to carry and have stolen...

After watching @MDBass grab his D-Roc and laptop, which completed his tear down, I just keep thinking that bass, modeler of choice, and IEM rig would be AH-MAZING!

 

[Selta]

After watching @MDBass grab his D-Roc and laptop, which completed his tear down, I just keep thinking that bass, modeler of choice, and IEM rig would be AH-MAZING!

It really is. That's what I've been running for ~2 years now with my AX8. Takes me exactly no time at all to setup or tear down.

 

[pbass6811]

It really is. That's what I've been running for ~2 years now with my AX8. Takes me exactly no time at all to setup or tear down.

Yeah, I envy you and Matt. What do you do when you have a guitar player who can't function without a Mesa Triple Rec and a Marshall 412? I have enough gear to go amp-less, but does it make sense to ditch the rig when the guitar player starts muttering "I need this for my sound" and "get off my lawn"?

 

[AB Nate]

Trying something a bit different this eve.

Payson Black Daggers.

Looking forward to giving them a go for a bit. Instant impression after tune up was a long scale version of the DR black beauties.

I do like how she looks all dressed in black tho.

 

[AB Nate]

Yeah, I envy you and Matt. What do you do when you have a guitar player who can't function without a Mesa Triple Rec and a Marshall 412? I have enough gear to go amp-less, but does it make sense to ditch the rig when the guitar player starts muttering "I need this for my sound" and "get off my lawn"?

“I need it at 11 to get my proper feedback levels!!!”

 

[Selta]

Yeah, I envy you and Matt. What do you do when you have a guitar player who can't function without a Mesa Triple Rec and a Marshall 412? I have enough gear to go amp-less, but does it make sense to ditch the rig when the guitar player starts muttering "I need this for my sound" and "get off my lawn"?

I luckily don't work with guitarists like that. If I did, and they couldn't control rehearsal or stage volume, I'd leave the band though, unless there was a lot of money coming my way. I'm mostly a hobbyist though, and as such, I don't have a ton of time to spend on music, gigs, and bettering my craft... I'm not going to "waste" my time in situations that I dislike, and that certainly would be one .

So far, I've found guitarists much more willing to try out modeling, especially when they can try a Helix or Fractal unit for themselves. I've personally converted quite a lot (well, a few dozen, not sure if that's "a lot") through a community I run for modelers here in the greater Seattle region.

 

[AB Nate]

Trying something a bit different this eve.

Payson Black Daggers.

Looking forward to giving them a go for a bit. Instant impression after tune up was a long scale version of the DR black beauties.

I do like how she looks all dressed in black tho.

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2nd immediate impression of the BDs

Feels like DR BBs but plays slinkier... could be the lightness of gauge and the extended scale but I feel they have more flexibility. Sound is different.

More organic and musical then the DRs I think. I found the BBs “refined and crisp??!” “ clean and sterile but in a good way on my SJ but I find these are instantly resembling more so a set of regular nickels vs the aforementioned DR black beauties.

It’s late and I’m at low volumes but I’m more excited about these then I had assumed I would be.

Thanks @bluescat

 

[Salciniclas]

Trying something a bit different this eve.

Payson Black Daggers.

Looking forward to giving them a go for a bit. Instant impression after tune up was a long scale version of the DR black beauties.

I do like how she looks all dressed in black tho.

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she looks stunning no question.
But since I am both, a bass and a dog guy, i have trouble watching the bass since there is a cute doggo sleeping in the back

 

[IronSpatula]

2nd immediate impression of the BDs

Feels like DR BBs but plays slinkier... could be the lightness of gauge and the extended scale but I feel they have more flexibility. Sound is different.

More organic and musical then the DRs I think. I found the BBs “refined and crisp??!” “ clean and sterile but in a good way on my SJ but I find these are instantly resembling more so a set of regular nickels vs the aforementioned DR black beauties.

It’s late and I’m at low volumes but I’m more excited about these then I had assumed I would be.

Thanks @bluescat

Any impression of the non-tapered B being having less growl or ring as mentioned by the other user? I'm interested in these but don't want to compromise on the piano-like ring of the stock B.

 

[B.C.]

After watching @MDBass grab his D-Roc and laptop, which completed his tear down, I just keep thinking that bass, modeler of choice, and IEM rig would be AH-MAZING!

It truly is. I just switched to a purely Kemper rig (gig equally on guitar and bass) and I love the ease of it, and I'm not compromising tone at all. I've got the Kemper, a nice darkglass profile, an ultralight speaker if I need stage volume, and I'm good to go!

 

[AB Nate]

Any impression of the non-tapered B being having less growl or ring as mentioned by the other user? I'm interested in these but don't want to compromise on the piano-like ring of the stock B.

2 things that I didn’t know or pay attention to prior to opening the pack was that the B was non tapered and that it was a .125.
Both of these things made me even question proceeding to string the bass up with them.
I’m a creature of comfort and change can be scary lol.

Ah fug, why not. So obviously I made a choice. In my minor amount of playing last night I was very pleasantly surprised with
A) how I haven’t even bother to adjust the bridge yet and the B still “feels” nice and low
And
B) how it all sounds...... I haven’t heard anything I don’t like outta these strings.

For reference, my background is metal and I love my Payson SS strings for that. The Dingwall stainless are definitely awesome too.

I’m playing Jazz/Latin right now and with that I’ve been a bit more adventurous to try some other strings out. On this bass I just previously had Dingwall nickels which were working quite well for what I’ve been doing but they were a bit on the older side.

I’d say that depending on what your style is may depend on how much you like them. If your doing lots of sliding they may not be best as they will heat up similar to the DR BBs and they have that coated string “grip?” but if you are ok with the grip, they are very fast and articulate playing and sounding.

Perhaps classical style playing is a good area for these to shine.

They still have some openness to them that I didn’t expect which I think will translate well into other genres.

I know they are expensive but honestly if your curious I think it’s money well spent for a person who has at least somewhat of an idea of what they are stepping into. I guess what I mean is, if you’ve played coated strings before and have a need/use, they are a great offering IMO.

So far, I say the B is solid at .125
in standard tuning.


I’ll play more later today.

That’s presuming I don’t have a new Dingwall at home this eve.
I’m jinxing it now but I was told yesterday may be the day!!!!

 

[AB Nate]

she looks stunning no question.
But since I am both, a bass and a dog guy, i have trouble watching the bass since there is a cute doggo sleeping in the back

Me too. Techa was pretty tuckered last night after his first day at the lake.

Him and his sister.

 

[groovaholic]

I just keep thinking that bass, modeler of choice, and IEM rig would be AH-MAZING!

I’m tempted by the convenience and portability, and I’ve heard some FANTASTIC tones, but I haven’t found a modeler that gives me the feel...the tactile immediacy of an amp.

Maybe it’s just a placebo effect, but I still think that there is something about the interaction of magnets, electrons, and air molecules that is eluding the models.

 

[BrBss]

2 things that I didn’t know or pay attention to prior to opening the pack was that the B was non tapered and that it was a .125.
Both of these things made me even question proceeding to string the bass up with them.
I’m a creature of comfort and change can be scary lol.

Ah fug, why not. So obviously I made a choice. In my minor amount of playing last night I was very pleasantly surprised with
A) how I haven’t even bother to adjust the bridge yet and the B still “feels” nice and low
And
B) how it all sounds...... I haven’t heard anything I don’t like outta these strings.

For reference, my background is metal and I love my Payson SS strings for that. The Dingwall stainless are definitely awesome too.

I’m playing Jazz/Latin right now and with that I’ve been a bit more adventurous to try some other strings out. On this bass I just previously had Dingwall nickels which were working quite well for what I’ve been doing but they were a bit on the older side.

I’d say that depending on what your style is may depend on how much you like them. If your doing lots of sliding they may not be best as they will heat up similar to the DR BBs and they have that coated string “grip?” but if you are ok with the grip, they are very fast and articulate playing and sounding.

Perhaps classical style playing is a good area for these to shine.

They still have some openness to them that I didn’t expect which I think will translate well into other genres.

I know they are expensive but honestly if your curious I think it’s money well spent for a person who has at least somewhat of an idea of what they are stepping into. I guess what I mean is, if you’ve played coated strings before and have a need/use, they are a great offering IMO.

So far, I say the B is solid at .125
in standard tuning.


I’ll play more later today.

That’s presuming I don’t have a new Dingwall at home this eve.
I’m jinxing it now but I was told yesterday may be the day!!!!

Nice, glad they're working out for you. I should probably play around with the action on the B a little more to compensate for the lack of taper. Really liked the midrange on the upper 4 strings.

 

[AB Nate]

Nice, glad they're working out for you. I should probably play around with the action on the B a little more to compensate for the lack of taper. Really liked the midrange on the upper 4 strings.

A bit early to say they are working out for me but I will say my initial impressions are quite positive.

 

[B.C.]

I’m tempted by the convenience and portability, and I’ve heard some FANTASTIC tones, but I haven’t found a modeler that gives me the feel...the tactile immediacy of an amp.

Maybe it’s just a placebo effect, but I still think that there is something about the interaction of magnets, electrons, and air molecules that is eluding the models.

Maybe verging off topic here, but what have you tried? The only one that accurately recreated the amp feel, tone, and everything was a kemper with a really well profiled amp. I guess I emphasize well profiled as some I tried definitely do not fit the bill. But the well profiled stuff is unreal, can't tell the difference at all.