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Dingwall Owners Club
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Richard!!! Did you buy that sweet sweet sweet faded blue jeans/wenge SP from L&M in Calgary???? Enquiring minds want to know.You might still.
Sound is very similar. Paysons are perhaps a little smoother both sounding and playing. I don't have a direct comparison because Paysons are on a fretted AB2, TIs on the fretless which has a slightly different tone (different pre-amp, etc. as well). Paysons are definitely lighter than the TIs (The TIs have a .136 for the B). From a preference standpoint, I'm leaning towards the Paysons. I put the Paysons on and it was like:
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Lighter and more flexible than the TI jazz flats? Any more thoughts on the Payson flats?
I’m going to have to try out a four string set on the AB-1!
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I will, occasionally, tell my wife she's wrong, when I have time, and space, to run away. It's why, at 151 years old, I still have cat-like reflexes...
Are those cat years?
I would say yes. I actually thought I'd prefer the beefier gauges, but the feel on the Paysons is incredible. I was thinking I should record a comparison.
Lowendtech
Happily trending in my own peculiar direction.
Pretty short story to go along with it...
I went to The Bass Shop, Seattle, where I'm in queue for my Z. Finally had enough time to get there and not be in a mad rush, paid my deposit, sat and shot the breeze with Chad and Jeff a bit. They had one of those Ibanez fan fret basses there... figured I'd noodle on it a bit just to remind myself how not-Dingwall they are. Basically the entire time I was playing the Ibanez, I was eyeing the Dingwall hanging there. Got it down more to direct A/B against the Ibanez (no contest, by the way - in string-to-string evenness, responsiveness, build quality, tone, or feel). Had a ton of fun playing it... decided it's been there too long without a home (I don't actually know this to be true or not, but, it made a good story in my head). Talked to Chad, and walked out the store with it.
To be quite... honest, I suppose. I'm not quite sure where this one yet fits in. I've gone back and forth on the DG pre many times - it normally just isn't my cup of tea. But it grabbed me pretty good today in the shop, and again today at home while noodling around.
I think I need to start going to some therapy or something. @Sheldon D. just makes too fine of instruments to see them hanging on a wall without being played. Now that I'm up to 6, and in queue for #7 though, I have to have some difficult conversations with myself about which ones are actually played and recorded with. I do play each almost every day, but, the Prima gets probably 75% of live shows and 50% of recording, the Z was starting to work in for a lot of the other live and recording stuff... and the green AB is my only 6er, so while somewhat rare, it does get played. The other two AB1's - one strung F# -- get play time, but, they don't bring much to the table that's totally different or unique. I think a main hangup is that I won't get much selling either, so, why bother
@Selta what you’d get out of rehoming those AB1s is the warm feeling in your heart from sharing Sheldon’s beautiful basses with others... at a steep, friendly discount.
It'll feel weird not having an F# tuned bass, but holy crap, I think I've played it... 3 times this year in a serious manner. I'm not in a band that'll use it, don't want to be in a band that would, either hah. We'll see. I'm in no rush to sell either, but, you do make a fair point in bringing more people into the Dingwall family through "cheap" used gear.
I hear you. I almost brought a P home this week. Instead,..... I guess I couldn’t go home empty handed and was really impressed with the WD800 I was playing it through so...... yup. It came home.
I’ve been really getting control of my DAS in regards to knowing what bass I should be playing and what bass I want to play and what basses in all honesty won’t help me progress as a musician and will most likely collect dust.
I’m playing my solitary 5er right now and honestly as I move away from first position I find myself having to think about the fact there is no C.
I’ve though about going exclusively 6ers but I just can’t help but think keeping one 5 around is really important... that an I fricken love this thing.
on the DG topic, I know we have conversed about it on a few occasions and I think we both have a major soft spot for the glockenklang but the DG almost offers up a different way to eq things and get similar results.... not the same of course but similar.
The glockenklang to me seems intuitive and logical where as the dark glass when first exploring, in a way is counter to it. It’s a very useful beast and I really like it. Not to mention how killer it really sounds in the Chinese basses. The NG is truly designed to be best bang for buck out there. That maple and alder have a lot to do with it too IMO
Oh and on my new build with the DGTC, I wouldn’t have it any other. What a monster!!!! Mwahahahhahahah
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Peter Lufrano
Blues. and nothing but the Blues.
I haven't found anything not to like about the DG pre in my NG-2. The Reeves I play through has an inherently big low end, so I usually roll the bass back a tad and I'm good to go. 
Yup. Beat the DAS but passed it on to this crowd.
The DG pre in my NG is a little harsh (which is sometimes great), but the DG in my AB2 is really quite lovely. No idea if there's a difference on the electronics side.
just want to share it without saying anything 
BurningSkies
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As a Z/AB player who now uses an NG3 as my main instrument...I can confirm that there's 'something' to them. I think that players who do the 'it has to be Canadian' dance are missing out and maybe missing the point. It's its own beast.
I haven't found anything not to like about the DG pre in my NG-2. The Reeves I play through has an inherently big low end, so I usually roll the bass back a tad and I'm good to go.
Depends, and I'm going to suggest that your Reeves is also doing something on the top end. My cab setup has a mid that goes fairly high but no tweeter...The DGTC has a high-mid control that doesn't touch the stuff really at the top. So you can boost/roll stuff in that high-mid-to-low-treble range...which for me on a live stage was just fine since my amp wasn't reproducing it anyway...
...But...
...nowadays I've moved on to being fairly well integrated into our IEM setup. IEMS which tend to be more precise and faithful across the frequency range were giving me a whole lot of that 'untouched upper treble range'...which for me was a huge distraction while playing. For the short time a reasonable solution was to EQ the bass channel on the IEM mixer send post processing to my aux and that 'mostly' worked to the point where it was there but not as out front to me.
So, I'm in the middle of trying this on my board:
It's going to ride under my board next to my HPF and I'm going to dial it in and lock it in place where it works best (that aftermarket knob is a Loknob).
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I kind of agree and disagree.
The Combustion line is a killer line of bass.....tone and playability are top notch but they are not a Canadian build.
For my tastes, when I was looking at the wall at L and M the other day and there was the SP and the DG edition NG3, if I was to take one home it woulda been the DG NG3. for the simple reason it’s a long scale and more suitable for my desires. I’ve just never been a P guy.
I think some combustion’s actually surpass a lot of Canadian built basses for sure. They are the evolution, where as some of the older ones are “tame” in comparison but again then with that, that could be a great thing depending on preferences and genres.
I think even though the combustion line is the “entry level” Dingwall they are not bottom of the line but they are just a different tool.
if your a super player for one reason or another then you need a super.... not an NG.
If you want different woods or electronics for different characteristics then..... not an NG
If your playing style and body shape bonds with a different model then..... not an NG
also...... if you just want something custom and unique to you.... not an NG.
If you try to minimize your quantity of Made in china products in your life..... then not an NG.
a few reasons anyways.
Me, I know I could work to bond more so with the combustion’s but I got spoiled and familiar on the ergonomics of the Z while playing some pretty darn fast stuff. Switching to the NG was a challenge. With that, it wouldn’t be an issue playing the stuff I’m playing now.
In closing, I agree they are not to be.....looked down upon as a comparison but to counter the NG bandwagon.... they also just simply do not take the place of Canadian builds for numerous reasons.
I’ll probably own another again. I am very curious to put hands on a six string but I know, and I can say this with 100% confidence the neck will be a down grade in comfort and feel from my Z6 necks.... 100%. If I was a younger man with less funds to blow on crap I don’t need..... I’d be all over a 6 string bustin. No question.
