Dingwall Owners Club

[retroXvertigo]

There was a dude a few years ago that made me wish reverb had a "block" option.

Every bass I listed...

Muckelroy 6 string - $4k

"You've received an offer of $800"

It took real restrain not to message the guy.

 

[5StringPocket]

I just found out my D-Roc 5 Custom build might be about a 21 month wait. That is going through a dealers build slot.

 

[romzin]

Just a note. Bear in mind the 6 way switches are incredibly tight(depth) in the Droc body I believe.

Indeed, I started getting some parts and the switch is higher than the cavity, but I'm hoping that delicate bending of the pins would do the trick.

 

[AB Nate]

Indeed, I started getting some parts and the switch is higher than the cavity, but I'm hoping that delicate bending of the pins would do the trick.

It has been done. Sounds like you got a handle on it.

 

[Selta]

You can play it while you wait for your build then sell it for $20k, I think that's how the maths works out

If I didn't have 6 Dingwalls maybe got plenty to keep me company haha

 

[BunchyMutt]

IIRC, Sheldon Dingwall has stated that he designs his basses for clarity and pitch focus - so if anything, I'd expect a Dingwall to trigger an octaver more evenly and track better than other basses.

More realistically, you might not notice any difference.

about what I expected! I'll find out soon enough!

 

[Snake101st]

Watched this NAMM video with Tosin yesterday, and couldn't help but think about how cool the D-Roc would look with a raw aluminum or steel w slight patina looking finish... Wouldn't hate a chrome or chrome burst z, either!

Reminds me of some of Matt Bellamy (Muse)'s Manson guitars, which I've always been a fan of, or Satriani's chrome guitar

 

[Markey]

My bass will be shipped out this month. It was ordered in May 2021.

My order must landed have landed right after you lol (also May 2021), possibly shipping early March.

 

[1983L2000]

My order must landed have landed right after you lol (also May 2021), possibly shipping early March.

And what was the initial estimated build date at the time?

 

[Nuage420]

Anyone else have some issues earlier?

 

[Nuage420]

Watched this NAMM video with Tosin yesterday, and couldn't help but think about how cool the D-Roc would look with a raw aluminum or steel w slight patina looking finish... Wouldn't hate a chrome or chrome burst z, either!

Reminds me of some of Matt Bellamy (Muse)'s Manson guitars, which I've always been a fan of, or Satriani's chrome guitar

There was a Dbird on reverb a while back that someone stripped the finish from and put a really sick metal spiderweb pickguard on. It was badass!

 

[SemiDriven]

Yep.
Who wants to be the highest lowballer. Hahaha.

maybe you’ll get lucky!!!

Subbed.

 

[Nuage420]

Yeah, do it quick I say.

Sounds like Kenny. Lol.

Worse case scenario, the shop owner can use that to talk some sense into the owner about the price. I added it to my watch list I wonder if we'll see a price drop

 

[Nuage420]

I just found out my D-Roc 5 Custom build might be about a 21 month wait. That is going through a dealers build slot.

If it helps... It will be worth the wait!

 

[NaH]

nice. I like it.
Who’s all in? Rich….. C’mon!!!!

If it was Candy Tangerine I'd be there in a heartbeat.

 

[Katoosie]

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Anyone else have some issues earlier?

Yes

 

[BunchyMutt]

After some time with my new Payson bridge, I’d like to give my assessment. The main reason is because if I knew these things before buying I may have made a different choice, and you may as well, or maybe not. Who knows! All in the interest of getting information out there to those who may benefit.

TLDR, I’m mostly happy with it, but it’s not perfect, and I will be replacing it with the DW Minimalist Bridge as soon as it’s available.

It started with me never liking smoked chrome hardware. I always associate it with cheap Ibanez’s from 20 years ago. It needed replacing if for nothing else than aesthetic purposes. With options for drop-in replacements being limited for DW NG/Combustion models, I went with the best looking I could find.

The Payson is definitely an aesthetic upgrade, IMO! But I have some gripes.

When I read “Guaranteed Drop in Fit” with no other listed caveats, I expect a true drop-in replacement with full advertised functionality. This is not the case. It’s only drop-in because the screw holes line up, if I may be honest.

1. The bridge sits at a slight angle to the bass side. This causes a horizontal break angle at the saddles. The result is that the bridge cannot support string width adjustments because the horizontal tension will always force the string to the high side.

Documentation on the website about specifics is sparse, so going on memory of what I’ve read here is that the bridge is adjustable from 18-19mm (I could be wrong). DW 5/6ers are 18mm. With the Payson bridge native limitations I’m guessing this means the string spacing is now 18.5mm, with the bass side B string being perfect and each higher string slightly more and more “off”, or pushed slightly to the high side.

This could be worked around with some type of shims, I suppose, which could be slipped between the high-side saddle and inside of the bridge to achieve OEM specs of 18mm, but to get the appropriately sized shims, we’ll, I don’t exactly know where to start looking. And I don’t care to at this point.

2. As opposed to the OEM single-string saddles with 2 screws, the Payson has 1 row of screw holes. What happens here is that the ground wire that runs the length of the bridge acts as a fulcrum so that the bridge doesn’t have full contact with the bass body. I’m not entirely sure how this affects tone yet but I’m sure it does to some extent. What I do know is that it affects string action quite a bit.

thanks for the writeup! I would be annoyed also, and I'm annoyed that it's not a clear cut solution. Did you look at other brands of black solo rail bridges?

 

[Scott McArron]

thanks for the writeup! I would be annoyed also, and I'm annoyed that it's not a clear cut solution. Did you look at other brands of black solo rail bridges?

I don’t really like the look of the black solo rails.

I should add an update to that update. Once my Z came in, I measure the string spacing of both and compared them and they are exactly the same. So that’s good news.

And I went ahead and ended up cutting the ground wire so it only makes contact at the corner of the bridge and no longer runs the length of the bridge. A bit better results. I was able to get the action on the C down to a very acceptable 3.5/64”, just slightly above my preferred 3/64” but honestly hardly noticeable.

Overall, I’m very happy with the results!

 

[BunchyMutt]

I don’t really like the look of the black solo rails.

I should add an update to that update. Once my Z came in, I measure the string spacing of both and compared them and they are exactly the same. So that’s good news.

Meaning the Payson bridge alines perfectly with the Z?

Looking at the webpage for the Payson 6 string, there's a picture that shows the same issue. Looks like it's on the e string too.

 

[Scott McArron]

Meaning the Payson bridge alines perfectly with the Z?

No. The Payson bridge won’t work on the Z. I was just saying the string spacing is the same.