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Dingwall Owners Club
- Thread starter FroggyOne2
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So different than the ground wound flats? I'm in
So I wonder how each of these compare with Infeld Jazz Flats?
I haven't used any flats for a while, got in the mood to do so, and ended up trying a set of Dunlop flats on my SP4. I'm really liking the tones and the feel. Whenever I plug that thing into my Café Walter/PJB rig, it's just a thing of beauty. Of course, it sounds good through the live rig too, but some times I like to just play bass for myself.
When I had TIs on a Super PJ they sounded and felt great at home. Then I took it to practice and they were a little too tame for the cover band. Just were a little resistant to "digging in." The other thing that bothered me was the B really wasn't focused enough for its large size. I might've liked having a round wound B string with them. That said they felt incredible and sounded great at home. Only ended up taking them to practice one time so it might have just taken an adjustment period, but my initial impression in the full band situation was that I couldn't pull enough out of them.
Hey, does anyone have a quality sound clip of an ABII fretless with a Macassar ebony fingerboard? I've only found a few on YouTube and the recording and/or playing leave something to be desired. I'm very curious about how the chambering affects the B-string's sustain and definition, and whether this trade-off, if any, is worth the gain in resonance and woodiness.
Also, has anyone tried to put piezo bridge pickups on an ABII? Hipshot makes them for their Triple Lockdown bridges, but Dingwall's custom Hipshot bridges have been altered, so I'm not sure if they would work with piezo saddles. Joel at Dingwall didn't think they would.
Thanks!
Also, has anyone tried to put piezo bridge pickups on an ABII? Hipshot makes them for their Triple Lockdown bridges, but Dingwall's custom Hipshot bridges have been altered, so I'm not sure if they would work with piezo saddles. Joel at Dingwall didn't think they would.
Thanks!
I believe the Dunlops are steel, not alloy like the TI's. I haven't tried a five-string set, so I have no idea what the B string would be like. I would think that a steel flat might cut a little better, but I've not A/B'ed to test this. In general, I hear steel strings as edgier and more aggressive than any alloys that I have tried...
I love the TIs on my ABI, but the B could be more focused sounding. Will probably try them on SJ5XXX down the road (have to get it first, and wear out the nickles).
The Payson GWFlats will have a little more mid detail. They're a great hybrid flat/rounds combination. The Payson Fanned Flats are all about thump and FUNdamental. Nice medium light tension out of the box feeling already broken in.
The reduce core indicates a lighter tension than the original Payson Fanned NS sets also resulting in even more mids and highs. I probably should have come up with nomenclature that is more exciting like Flexi Brights, or Magic Explosion...
You might like the standard Payson Fanned NS-Reduced Core set tuned down one step.
On the way sir.
Thanks AB for the flats preorder. It's a 5 week turn around once the quantity goal is reached. We're about 60% there. I probably should go through my email and look for players requesting flats.
Thanks payson, I pre ordered yesterday also, very much looking forward to trying them outThe Payson GWFlats will have a little more mid detail. They're a great hybrid flat/rounds combination. The Payson Fanned Flats are all about thump and FUNdamental. Nice medium light tension out of the box feeling already broken in.
The reduce core indicates a lighter tension than the original Payson Fanned NS sets also resulting in even more mids and highs. I probably should have come up with nomenclature that is more exciting like Flexi Brights, or Magic Explosion...
You might like the standard Payson Fanned NS-Reduced Core set tuned down one step.
On the way sir.
Thanks AB for the flats preorder. It's a 5 week turn around once the quantity goal is reached. We're about 60% there. I probably should go through my email and look for players requesting flats.
I have an ABII fretless, but it doesn't have the scroll, so perhaps isn't as chambered (if it even is). Are you trying to decide between chambered or not?
Yes, I would like to get an idea of how the chambering affects the sustain and definition of the lower strings, and if it does, whether or not this is compensated by an aggreable increase in resonance and woodiness. It would be great if Dingwall could include some sound clips, but a fretless lined, fanned five-string is an even more niche market than fanned fretted basses, and with a 9-to-12-month backlog, I don't blame Dingwall for not feeling any need to tweak their website.
Thanks!
Sorry, no sound clips. Regarding the B-string definition on an ABII, we spent several years experimenting with tone chambers before releasing the chambered ABII specifically for this reason. It took a lot of tweaking but the B-string is as solid as and fits in well with the rest of the strings.
If you're worried about maximum sustain, you could always go for a fretless ABHS.
We've tried piezos a few times in the past. They were expensive, fussy to install and in the end, didn't provide a tone that was better or different enough from the mags to warrant putting them into production.
Thanks for your reply Sheldon!
I don't see an ABHS model on your website, just ABII, ABI, and ABZ. Am I missing something?
Do you think piezos designed for the Hipshot Triple Lockdown could be installed aftermarket? I know a firstclass luthier here in the Twin Cities who can do topnotch custom work. It's hard to tell in the photos how much the custom Hipshot bridges you use have been altered.
We're slowly getting information up on our website. You'll find info on the specs page. However it's an Afterburner with a solid bubinga body.
We don't use a modified Hipshot bridge. We have Hipshot manufacture our bridge design. I'm sure a skilled luthier could figure it out and make it work. I personally wouldn't find the cost worth it but YMMV. Keep in mind, our basses are pretty different from anything you've played in the past. What worked/was necessary for parallel fretted basses may not work or be necessary with ours. I'd really recommend trying to find someone in your area who has one of our basses that you could try before spending too much time and effort trying to re-design a bass that's already had a ton of R&D put into it.
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Thanks again for the feedback. I think that sounds like a good approach, so, any of you Dingwall owners in the Twin Cities have a fretless you care to let me check out? Just PM me if you do, thanks!
Couple of tracks from rehearsal last night, with the bass track elevated a tad over the rest... because bass, and Dingwalls are awesome 
. Ignore the crap-tastic playing... I was having an off night. Glad it was rehearsal, and not a gig >.<
These are both Pi (Blue Afterburner 1) into my Axe-Fx II, straight into the DAW. The rest was captured with two room mics (though I have most of that direct, too - too lazy to do a proper mix). These are some short excerpts from my band Convergence - Convergence
. Ignore the crap-tastic playing... I was having an off night. Glad it was rehearsal, and not a gig >.<These are both Pi (Blue Afterburner 1) into my Axe-Fx II, straight into the DAW. The rest was captured with two room mics (though I have most of that direct, too - too lazy to do a proper mix). These are some short excerpts from my band Convergence - Convergence
Can anyone speak about the differences between the p looking pickup and the ptone? Or specifically has anyone a/b'd a Dingwall super pj vs super j w/ 3x and ptone in the neck?
