DNA Owners Group

[Bassmann1968]

Hi,
1. not anymore
2. n/a with 1.
3. 4Ohm
- you got 2 210 8 Ohm, which is a 4Ohm 410. Just in case you want to use them all three
- to get the most out of an amp when you use it as stand alone.
Rock on!

 

[5string_phunk]

Awesome! Thanks for all the responses everyone and confirming what I thought would be the general consensus!

I'm probably going to get a 4x10 4ohm on order in the next week or so!

 

[Rip Van Dan]

Arlo! What's up man? It's Brad Clark, I bought one of your 1x12's a few years back and we've run into each other several times in town!

I agree that the weight of the ceramics is a bit of a turn off, but I am 99.9% sure I prefer the 'heft' and low end that ceramic drivers bring. I imagine the weight will be in the mid-80's for the ceramic 4x10, which is alright considering I already lug around a 55lb 2x10 and have a sweet little furniture dolly to help negotiate the weight! Hope to pull the trigger soon and have Brian get one on order in the next week or so!

How do you like the rhino covering compared to the carpet?

Just an FYI, the DNS410 weighs 79-lbs.

 

[iriegnome]

She is hella heavy and that is before it goes into the case!!! My case adds another 80 pounds

 

[Rip Van Dan]

Brian has one in stock now. I like the rhino for weight and weather. The carpet is gonna absorb more so dampens the lows. The rhino doesn’t absorb like carpet.

I have the carpet covering and the rat-fur on the outside doesn't dampen my lows one tiny bit. You haven't heard tight and clear lows until you've hear one of these. If you've ever heard one of the Eden D410XST cabs, the lows are better with this DNS410 (everything's better with it). I can certainly understand the preference to stay away from "rat-fur" but remember this covering is on the outside and the inside of the cab is baffled and dampened as needed to get the sound David wanted out of it.

We had a lengthy discussion on the DNA forum back in 2010 about coverings when David was still finalizing the design of these cabs. A poll wast taken to see what people thought of about 3 or 4 different coverings they could use - one was rat-fur, another was basically a spray-on truck-bed liner, a third was Tolex, and I've forgotten what the 4th was. At the time we were told the sound would be no different between the coverings (Rat-fur won that poll by the way).

I really wouldn't worry about that covering changing the sound at all. Get the Rhino covering because you like the looks of it or the durability, but don't expect it to give you better lows than the rat-fur.

 

[5string_phunk]

the 4x10, at ~80 lbs is not necessarily ideal, but it's only ~25 lbs heavier than my 2x10 that I carry at the moment and should be able to destroy small villages when necessary! I know the size makes it a bit more awkward too, but I'm going to invest in a collapsible cart/hand truck to keep in the trunk of my car, along with a pair of ratchet straps, for the more difficult load in/outs that involve stairs/long distances between parking and doors etc. And I have a small furniture dolly for everything else.

I also used to haul around an Ampeg 410HLF for years, and that has to be the heaviest, most awkwardly shaped 4x10 on the planet!

 

[Rip Van Dan]

...and should be able to destroy small villages when necessary! ...

Too True!

 

[iriegnome]

I so much prefer the rat-fur. Actually when I went back to David to purchase my 112, I specifically requested a rat-fur cabinet. I just like them way more better

 

[5string_phunk]

I so much prefer the rat-fur. Actually when I went back to David to purchase my 112, I specifically requested a rat-fur cabinet. I just like them way more better

Any particular reason? Im pretty careful with them, but both of mine have been pulled/frayed on corners and top.

 

[lpbfender]

I absolutely love my DNA 800 on top of my DNA DNS-112

Me too!

 

[iriegnome]

Any particular reason? Im pretty careful with them, but both of mine have been pulled/frayed on corners and top.

No real reason. I prefer the look and the feel. I have never tore my rat fur cabinets. But I also house them in road cases. I never move them to a gig not in their case. Even before when I played Peavey I just preferred rat fur. However, I hated the fact that they always smelled like bar carpet after gigs, which is no longer a problem

 

[jjk2007]

I’ve had good luck with the rat fur on my 2X10. I haul it in the bed of my truck and haven’t always been as gentle as I should with it and it still looks good. That’s after hauling it out several times a month for gigs over the last year +.

 

[Rip Van Dan]

Any particular reason? Im pretty careful with them, but both of mine have been pulled/frayed on corners and top.

You know you can trim off those frayed fibers, right? I remember trying to fight the upkeep on Tolex from earlier amps and cabs. Inevitable when it tore, it also shrank exposing the bare wood underneath. You could glue it back in place but was really hard to cover the exposed wood because you had no way to stretch it back out and hold it while the glue dried. If some of the rat fur gets pulled out of place, a pair of scissors or hair trimmer cleans it right up.

 

[iriegnome]

Ok my DNA friends. I am in a quandary about both my 1350 and 800 heads. I cannot seem to get enough volume out of either one without clipping the amp. I have tried a multitude of basses, I have run the 800 into my DNS-112 and my DNS-410 (not at the same time). I have adjusted the EQ settings, volumes, gains, changed cords, strings, used a pick. I am about ready to sacrifice a chicken if it would help!!
I need some sort of ideas here. I am out of them. I have the EQ set pretty much flat. It really doesn't need much. I bring the gain up to where the light turns green. Then increase the volume to a comfortable level. No matter what, the peak light comes on. It is actually worse when I play with my fingers rather than a pick. If I turn the amp up to a volume I can actually hear the amp, then the clip light comes on with almost every note. Again, I am the sole owner of both my amps, straight from the man himself. I have got to get something working here because I cannot keep using this like it is. Any suggestions?

 

[iriegnome]

I am guessing I am overdriving the input, but I don't know why.. My basses run from a Modulus Q5, G. Gould GGi5, Modulus Vertex, Fender Precision Deluxe Special.. Every one overdrives the amp.

 

[J.Wolf]

If you've tried a multitude of basses (assuming straight in with no pedals etc, and hopefully at least 1 passive bass), this sounds like a question for the man himself.

Seems weird. the 1350 should be providing you plenty of oomph before it clips.

 

[J.Wolf]

even if the basses are active you should be able to get clean volume out of either amp. If you turn the gain down and turn the master up, are you able to get more usable volume out of it?

I may not be the best person to ask, since I have no direct experience with the DNA amps, just the cabs, but I know that some gain knobs and metering are quite different than others, and perhaps its a matter of having to run less input gain to get clean volume.

 

[iriegnome]

I do need to speak with David again. My phone has been weird lately. I got an email from him a bit ago on a separate issue, but it sounds like I may have to just bring it to him to look at.

 

[Joebone]

I am guessing I am overdriving the input, but I don't know why.. My basses run from a Modulus Q5, G. Gould GGi5, Modulus Vertex, Fender Precision Deluxe Special.. Every one overdrives the amp.

Was it always like this, or did something change?

 

[iriegnome]

I think to an extent it was always like this, but it seems to be worsen