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Done with Sweetwater

I got a Sweetwater catalog several years ago but I don’t recall buying from them, though I may have bought an accessory of some sort. I was, later, contacted by the sales guy who had me on his list and he was great about leaving me alone henceforth because I told him I was 67, retired and selling more than I was buying these days.

My advice for OP is to escalate your contact to a supervisor or manager. OTOH you’ve gotten 150 replies with “good advice” so if you really feel that your best path is elsewhere, do that. You have to live with it, we don’t.
 
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It is more the number of bad experiences. Everyone says that one is out of the norm for them. Count them up. It is exceptionally bad. I am trying them one last time after speaking to yet another manager. It shouldn’t be necessary to always get to that level. In the agreement, basic form, I give them money they give me stuff. Imagine if I had the problems giving them money that they have had giving me stuff.

Sounds like you should probably move on and shop elsewhere.
 
SW has price matched for me whenever I find another authorized dealer selling an item for less, e.g. an Argosy Halo that GC marked down with a discount coupon. I tend to go with SW because if I have a problem with the item, they generally are going to be better about returns or making it right.
 
I’ve had great luck with Sweetwater. They don’t hassle me with calls, other than the “thanks for your order” call from my sales rep that I never answer. I’ve bought thousands of dollars in gear from them, and it’s always been great on my end.

I’ve also had nothing but great experiences ordering from both AMS/zZounds, and from MF. Again, I’ve spent thousands at those places too, and they’ve been absolutely great to work with.

CME has also been really good as well, but I’ve only bought a couple things from them so far. Same with Wildwood (just one bass from them).

Maybe I’ve just been lucky?
 
Telemarketers do not make me uncomfortable. They waste my time and cost me minutes on my phone. I don't like that. If I get a legitimate call from a legitimate business or person, I have no problem responding to it. The thing is, there are very few legitimate telemarketers these days (i.e. working for a legitimate company). Telemarketing is a no-go thing of the past as far as legitimate business marketing investment, and most companies know it is a waste of time to pay for people to cold call. Most companies know that telemarketers tick potential customers off and cause them to go out of their way to NOT buy from said company.

So, what you generally get now are scam calls: "I'm calling to inform you that your computer has a virus/has been compromised/is off its warranty/etc" (it has no warranty and is backed up on an external, non-connected hard drive), "I'm calling from the social security administration." (yeah, sure and I'm Marie Antoinette), "I'm calling from the IRS" (the IRS doesn't make those sorts of calls, much less hire folks who can barely speak English to make those calls. They send registered letters. I know, I've been through it once or twice. :nailbiting:) "I'm calling about your past due credit card.. could you give me the number so I can verify that?" (I have no credit card, dufus. But here's a number for you... 8 6 7 5 3 0 9 :thumbsup:), so on so forth. I used to answer those calls, once upon a time before I brightened up. It's far better for my health, sanity, and blood pressure if I simply do not answer them, rather than answering, calling the scammer a dirty son of a *****, and hanging up.

We’re not talking about telemarketers in the sense you’re referring to if we’re talking about Sweetwater. Or if you are you’re drawing a false equivalency IMO and it’s hardly germane to what we’re talking about in this thread. Because “cold calling” is precisely not what Sweetwater is doing

However, if your personal experiences with Sweetwater (since I’m assuming you either are or at one time were a customer) are apparently very different from my own or those of the people I know who deal with them, then it seems odd to me. Because I’ve never once had one of their sales reps try to sell me anything when they called. Unless you consider an innocuous: “Is there anything else you need or we can help you with?” begore signing off to be a hard-sell sales pitch.

As far as unsolicited calls from unknown callers go, I always allowed unidentified calls to go to voicemail first. Caller ID is a wonderful thing. And automatically notifying a caller that your phone will decline any “blocked” or “private” number call is an inexpensive service worth adding on your phone. I never saw the point of responding to some jerk on the phone by acting like a foul mouthed jerk in return. I prefer to save any swearing I do for very special situations. But maybe that’s just me. ;):)

Regarding personal marking and marketing to the affluent: I ran a successful business for many years that provided high level IT consulting and support services where I made it a point to touch bases with my client’s key contact person(s) every two weeks or so regardless of what we were doing for them. It was something I knew they appreciated because they told me it was appreciated. One of the most frequent compliments we received was that we kept in touch. And that was because our calls (in their words) let them “know we were still around” and “thinking about them.” So it was reassuring.

And it also netted my company a good deal of additional business. Because our client contacts (who genuinely were very busy people) knew they didn't need to remember to call us. They’d let our periodic calls to them serve as a reminder they needed us to do something for them. One client called it her “human tickler file.”

Now if you see a Sweetwater rep as just a salesperson you’re missing out on a lot of what they can do for you. I see mine as my music gear consultant. He sees more gear than I ever will, and has access to information I’d have to run all over the web or make multiple queries on my own dime to get at. So I just call and ask my questions and either get immediate answers, or I get passed over to someone else there who can help me out.

Which is how my own company conducted business. We wanted to serve as your one-stop shop and information resource for the services and products we handled. And that extra convenience and serving as a free source of solid reliable information allowed us to keep our existing customers while gaining us profitable new ones. Which was a good thing. Because we never advertised, didn’t have a public web presence (although we did have a private secure client portal), nor a business directory listing. All our business came from referrals from our existing clients and word of mouth. One client called us the “best kept non-secret going” for what we did.

So I guess our personal touch service and stealth marketing approach paid off. Or at least it did with the people we wanted to do business with. :)
 
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I got nutn but love for Sweetwater. They actually talk to me and ask me questions about what I'm buying. Several times, Philip has talked me into LESS expensive items that will serve my needs BETTER.

Sorry you had a bad experience with them. But they do me right.
 
We’re not talking about telemarketers in the sense you’re referring to if we’re talking about Sweetwater. Or if you are you’re drawing a false equivalency IMO and it’s hardly germane to what we’re talking about in this thread. Because “cold calling” is precisely not what Sweetwater is doing

However, if your personal experiences with Sweetwater (since I’m assuming you either are or at one time were a customer) are apparently very different from my own or those of the people I know who deal with them, then it seems odd to me. Because I’ve never once had one of their sales reps try to sell me anything when they called. Unless you consider an innocuous: “Is there anything else you need or we can help you with?” begore signing off to be a hard-sell sales pitch.

As far as unsolicited calls from unknown callers go, I always allowed unidentified calls to go to voicemail first. Caller ID is a wonderful thing. And automatically notifying a caller that your phone will decline any “blocked” or “private” number call is an inexpensive service worth adding on your phone. I never saw the point of responding to some jerk on the phone by acting like a foul mouthed jerk in return. I prefer to save any swearing I do for very special situations. But maybe that’s just me. ;):)

Regarding personal marking and marketing to the affluent: I ran a successful business for many years that provided high level IT consulting and support services where I made it a point to touch bases with my client’s key contact person(s) every two weeks or so regardless of what we were doing for them. It was something I knew they appreciated because they told me it was appreciated. One of the most frequent compliments we received was that we kept in touch. And that was because our calls (in their words) let them “know we were still around” and “thinking about them.” So it was reassuring.

And it also netted my company a good deal of additional business. Because our client contacts (who genuinely were very busy people) knew they didn't need to remember to call us. They’d let our periodic calls to them serve as a reminder they needed us to do something for them. One client called it her “human tickler file.”

Now if you see a Sweetwater rep as just a salesperson you’re missing out on a lot of what they can do for you. I see mine as my music gear consultant. He sees more gear than I ever will, and has access to information I’d have to run all over the web or make multiple queries on my own dime to get at. So I just call and ask my questions and either get immediate answers, or I get passed over to someone else there who can help me out.

Which is how my own company conducted business. We wanted to serve as your one-stop shop and information resource for the services and products we handled. And that extra convenience and serving as a free source of solid reliable information allowed us to keep our existing customers while gaining us profitable new ones. Which was a good thing. Because we never advertised, didn’t have a public web presence (although we did have a private secure client portal), nor a business directory listing. All our business came from referrals from our existing clients and word of mouth. One client called us the “best kept non-secret going” for what we did.

So I guess our personal touch service and stealth marketing approach paid off. Or at least it did with the people we wanted to do business with. :)

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I did have Sweetwater make a couple of "follow up calls" when I first started doing business with them many years ago. I simply didn't answer and didn't call back. After those couple of calls, they never called again. Since then, I've bought thousands and thousands of dollars worth of gear from them.

Now, had they kept calling and hounding me, no matter the reason, I wouldn't have continued doing business with them at all. I don't respond well to that and I'm not a "phone person." They seem to have gotten that message right up front years ago without me ever having to tell them. So good on them. All is well. I just received a bass from Sweetwater today. In fact I'm messing with it right now. What I didn't receive is telephone calls. Just the way it should be. If I need to talk to them, I'll call or email them. Otherwise... let me be.
 
I've been buying from the same rep at Sweetwater for the last ten years and have never experienced a problem. When I need something I call my rep, he puts the order in, and I receive my stuff. He's even provided advice and technical information to help guide me into making the right purchase. Also, I've only returned maybe four or five items over the years, and that hasn't been a problem either.

While I understand that any organization might have a bad apple salesman leaving a foul taste in many a customers' mouths, whenever I read online complaints I can't help but wonder if the problem is really the customer. It's my attempt to give the benefit of the doubt to the other side since online complaints are typically one-sided vents. I'm not saying the OP is the problem in this case. It's just that I've worked in sales, and more than once I've run into customers whose attitudes make me want to smile and rapidly bring my forehead down onto their noses.
 
It's pretty funny - after reading through this thread, I'm even more pissed at Sweetwater than ever. After all the money I've spent with them, and all the chances to make things right I've offered them, I find that some people report that they've received significant discounts from them. They have never given me any kind of a discount. And I ask every time I've ordered from them.

I bought an Ovation mandolin from them pretty recently. They were the only major on-line retailer that had any. Granted, they're discontinued, and they only had returns, but I got a pretty nice one at a good price. For me, I'd rather buy an instrument from a reputable retailer than from some person on eBay, even if it's for a little bit more. But now, I don't think I'll ever buy anything from them ever again. I'll take my chances with the guy on eBay.

Like anything else, you have to know the ropes, I guess. You could have gone to Musician's Friend like Joe Nerve says, and received substantial discounts from them. If you knew the ropes there. Good luck with eBay, though. Your gonna need it.
 
i buy from sam ash, musicians friend and sweetwater - used to buy a lot at GC and AMS.

if you have a problem at sweetwater, you might try contacting Aaron Cieslikowski, the senior sales guy. i've only once had sweetwater leave me hanging, and that was more than six years ago. i didn't buy from them for several years after that, but this time around i'm pretty happy.

btw, i asked my rep not to call me, and he doesn't unless to let me know something i was interested in is in stock.