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Do you have some sort of trick for combatting neck dive? I've personally found that my basses that are under 8 lbs start to become a little divey. I'm sure you're using some sort of Ultralite tuners, but still, with bodies that light, it's not much counterweight.Here are some weights for my bass, many of which are basses I built myself from scratch:
Chambered P Bass alder body/spruce top, maple neck (the body is strat sized) 6.2lbs
Chambered J Bass swamp ash (the body is strat sized) 6.4lbs
Fender P bass 1969 (I bought it new!) converted to fretless 7.2lbs
Chambered J with graphite neck (the body is strat sized) 7.4lbs
2013 Squire J bass, totally stock 7.4lbs
Carvin 5-string 7.8lbs
Chambered J with graphite neck fretless 8lbs
Fender P bass 1963 8.6lbs
string bass (for comparison) 21.8lbs
The graphite necks are HEAVIER than regular wood necks. I mention that so that none of you think that you can lighten your bass with a graphite neck. The opposite is in fact true.
Do you have some sort of trick for combatting neck dive? I've personally found that my basses that are under 8 lbs start to become a little divey. I'm sure you're using some sort of Ultralite tuners, but still, with bodies that light, it's not much counterweight.
Do you have some sort of trick for combatting neck dive? I've personally found that my basses that are under 8 lbs start to become a little divey. I'm sure you're using some sort of Ultralite tuners, but still, with bodies that light, it's not much counterweight.
How much does my Fender really weigh? According to my electronic postal scale, my '78 P-Bass really weighs 11.11 lbs. Which makes it my heaviest bass, and almost exactly a pound heavier than the runner-up; my '78 Kramer 450B lumie (10.05 lbs). As for mojomike001's question about neck dive; how do I fight it? The answer is, I don't; I just live with it. With a notorious 'diver like the Kramer, there isn't much you can do, other than play something else. That very interesting stuff. You've become quite the weight loss expert. Those are the lightest Fender style basses I've ever heard of.My lightest bass (mentioned above, the 6.2lb spruce-topped, chamber p-bass), went on a diet this weekend. I got it down to 5.85lbs. The light-weight it due to several things. One is that the body is strat-sized, which is to say it's like a p-bass, but a little bit smaller. It's chambered. I haven't weighted the body by itself, because I built the bass back in the 90's and haven't had it apart since. The neck is maple. The body is also a little bit thinner than a Fender, but not by much. Plugged, it sounds like a stock p, and that's what counts for me.
As to this weekend's weight loss, I got inspired after having just purchased a digital scale. The bass had a Gotoh 201 bridge on it, and that weights .33lbs. That's a third of a pound! I installed a Gotoh vintage knockoff, the cheap kind with the threaded saddles. That's only .2lb. And the bass sounds great with it, I'm fine with the change.
You asked about tuners. I have been using Gotoh GB7s for decades. I used to buy them by the tray. I probably still have a hundred pieces in my workshop. But they weigh 64 grams, with the bushing and screw. Better that the over 100 grams for a stock Fender gear for sure. The Hipshot Ultra-lites, in the classic Fender design, weight 58 grams. Their GB7-style weighs 44 grams. And the uber-expensive Gotoh Res-o-lites in the GB7 form factor weight 40 grams. I have that beat. A long time ago I bought a bunch of GB7s with white-pearloid plastic buttons. Those tuners weigh 36 grams. I have the pearl buttons on three other instruments (another bass, a Guild 12-string, and a strat clone). No issues. Nice weight loss off the headstock, and thus off the instrument itself. And no neck dive.
I've always had a bad back, so I have made a lifetime of R&D figuring out how to get the weight down. After a while, it becomes a game of ounces and grams. And don't forget plastic knobs! Nice ones of course.