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#101
I'm an artist, and I've been an artist all my life. There's nothing lamer than stealing somebody else's style, logo or designs to make yourself feel important.

It's like g**tar players: they think that if they can play "Stairway to Heaven", they are creative monsters.

Pthhhhhhhhhh.
 
#103
Wow, this thread really grew some legs, huh?
But it's all good, if it stays civil.

And I think some of the thoughts exchanged are legit.
My feelings-
It would be wrong if someone were to use a Fender (or other mfr.) decal or logo IF the intent was to misrepresent the product- Such as a "parts" bass that someone wants to sell as a Fender. Someone very experienced with instruments would be able to authenticate in a lot of different ways, but others could be swindled.

If, as in the OP's case I seem to recall, the decal is for one's own use, I see no problem, and apparently they're on the market for sale.
I wasn't aware of that, thought Fender kept a tight lid on logos and parts.
I also have heard of a good "market" for neckplates, with serial numbers- That's another good way to misrepresent an instrument too.

I worked years ago for a very prestigious fishing rod mfr. and we got requests all the time for Logo Decals. No way- too easy to put them on rod blanks and misrepresent. Issues with warranty and so forth.

As mentioned, easier for a knowledgeable person to validate a real Fender instrument.

If it's just for "decoration", and personal use, I don't see it as a big issue.
 
#104
i am always amazed at the amount of pure shite that gets spewed on this forum whenever a topic tickles someone opinion-pickle. If everyone that stops in on polls like this to be critical and not helpful would spend half as much time actually playin there instruments it would make paying gigs a lot harder to come across for guys like me.

My point...keep coming with the opinions lads, it's just more money in my pocket.
 
#105
papajune said:
i am always amazed at the amount of pure shite that gets spewed on this forum whenever a topic tickles someone opinion-pickle. If everyone that stops in on polls like this to be critical and not helpful would spend half as much time actually playin there instruments it would make paying gigs a lot harder to come across for guys like me.

My point...keep coming with the opinions lads, it's just more money in my pocket.
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Hey, Papa...while you were posting, I just copped your gig!!!:D
 
#106
Here's my take (FWIW):

I had a MIM Fender jazz upon which I replaced the neck with an Allparts neck. I bought a Fender decal and affixed it, but was just never really happy with the bass in general, so I parted the bass out (sold the neck for dirt cheap to a fellow TBer whom I told that it was NOT a Fender neck and, besides, the decal work looked like crap).

A few years ago, I bought the best Stingray ripoff I've ever seen off ebay for $175.00 (it was active, tiger stripe maple body and the headstock was EB copy to a T). The thing was so spot on that I placed it side-by-side with my real Stringray and was amazed at the detail, all the way down to the fretboard dots.

Anyway, I proceeded to sand off the existing headstock logo and replace it with a vintage MM Stingray logo (I know, I know :scowl: ) after having done all kinds of other mods to it (S-D pickup and pre, Hipshot tuners, etc.). I have always felt "icky" about this and, as such, I've never played a gig with it (I've only practiced with my band with it and I told them it was a fake the first time I pulled it out of the box) and recorded with it (it is an AMAZING recording bass!). Eventually, I'm going to sand off that logo and leave it blank so I can actually play the thing live!

So where does that leave me? Do whatever you want - who am I to judge what you do? - but I just don't feel right about having a counterfeit decal on a copy, personally, and I'll never do it again. It just doesn't feel right.
 
#107
GlennW said:
I'll tell you what doesn't mean squat - your opinion.
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I wasn't giving you an opinion. That bass will probably be around longer than you, and someday someone will probably pay for something they are not getting. and your point is: you don't care; you would never rip off anyone. Despite what you claim, I know that I would never deal with you; you are unethical. If you can't understand that then I suggest you attach your next decal to your colon so you can see it better.
 
#108
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#110
netbot said:
i think we all know what is the problem.

the problem is to see stuff like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PRECISION-BASS-ELECTRIC-BLACK-VINTAGE-STYLE_W0QQitemZ290188203616QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64401QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PRECISION-BASS-ELECTRIC-CUSTOM-TORINO-RED-MINT_W0QQitemZ290188203549QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64401QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

the seller changed the desc. several time from "Fender" to "Fen@¦#der" to "Fen---der" and so on....:eyebrow:
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Respectfully, if you can't tell thats not a Fender - then you shouldn't be buying one from e-bay.

Changing what you own is absolutley your right, as soon as you bought it, selling what you changed is ok too as long as you are honest about it, selling what you changed as something it's not means that you opened the door for some BIG dude to come get ya!!!!!

To the OP good luck with your decal, Iv'e got a feeling that you don't need any advice on how to "seat it in" on a nitro neck, but I'm sure it's gonna look cool.

OAO Frosty.
 
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#111
netbot said:
i think we all know what is the problem.

the problem is to see stuff like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PRECISION-BASS-ELECTRIC-BLACK-VINTAGE-STYLE_W0QQitemZ290188203616QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64401QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

and this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/PRECISION-BASS-ELECTRIC-CUSTOM-TORINO-RED-MINT_W0QQitemZ290188203549QQihZ019QQcategoryZ64401QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

the seller changed the desc. several time from "Fender" to "Fen@¦#der" to "Fen---der" and so on....:eyebrow:
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What the hell is up with those tuners?!?!
And i only says "P-Bass" LMAO!!!!:rollno:

What I really like is the the "offet Contour Body" sticker.
P Basses didn't have those did they!?!?

No that is sad as hell!!!
 
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#113
Unless he's using the decal to defruad or mislead he's a guy with a Fender Decal on his headstock . Get over it. The morals and judgement freeks on this board crack me up. In case you havent looked up from your computer in a while it's a big dangerous world out there. Ooops gotta run here come the Decal Police!
 
#114
Turock said:
...That bass will probably be around longer than you, and someday someone will probably pay for something they are not getting...
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Who the hell are you, Madam Cleo?

I suppose you can see for decades into the future to when some poor unsuspecting kid who sings in Sunday school and feeds the squirrels gets scammed out of thousands of dollars which took him eight years to save from his paper route.

Sticking a fake decal on a fake bass for personal use is about as harmless as putting a Bowtie sticker on an aftermarket valve cover.

BFD

Some of you Fender guys get all worked up over nothing and start making character judgements and namecalling.

Y'all are a bunch of hypocrits unless you never exceed the speed limit and always come to a full stop.

Ohhhh, that's different.

BS - same thing...legal is legal and ethics are ethics.
 
#115
I wish TBers would give this much of a response to legitimate questions, I've had a few that never got the time of day. Kind of makes this place yet another useless resource the internet has provided humanity with its profound lack of accountability.

...and yes, I just contributed to the pissing match, you really dont have to comment on it.
 
#116
ya know it hit me after sifting through only about 50% of this nonsense.

Be a man and play the bass you bought. Changing the logo on it won't make you better, and the poeple who notice what you did will think you are a complete dorkasaurus.


Nothing against restoring an actual fender that has been beat up.


Think of it this way, would you build one of those Popular Science kit cars and put a real Ferrari hood ornament on it? Who would you think you are actually fooling?
 
#117
bigfatbass said:
ya know it hit me after sifting through only about 50% of this nonsense.

Be a man and play the bass you bought. Changing the logo on it won't make you better, and the poeple who notice what you did will think you are a complete dorkasaurus.


Nothing against restoring an actual fender that has been beat up.


Think of it this way, would you build one of those Popular Science kit cars and put a real Ferrari hood ornament on it? Who would you think you are actually fooling?
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I put a Bugatti emblem on my Oldsmobuick. Fooled everybody! :hyper:
 
#118
papajune said:
I wish TBers would give this much of a response to legitimate questions, I've had a few that never got the time of day. Kind of makes this place yet another useless resource the internet has provided humanity with its profound lack of accountability.

...and yes, I just contributed to the pissing match, you really dont have to comment on it.
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OK.......
:eyebrow:
 
#120
I can see it plain as day...and there's the door, it's open and the people inside are calling me and waving me to come in...now I can make out the sign above the door, it says Internet Retards...

Whew, that was close...

Exit, stage left.
 
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