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Fender Rumble Club

I don't care, just find it curious since the heads and cab don't have them.

Huh? You mean the heads and the combo output? I thought that itself was odd, and somewhat of a poor choice on Fenders engineers part, but considering everything else they got right I would be picking nits...

1/4" to Speakon speaker cables are cheap, and plentiful so the odds of say grabbing your instrument cable and connecting your head / combo to the cab with that are greatly lower. So I'm good...
 
It's easier to understand visually, as per this napkin schematic:

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In order to solve for power dissipation, you can think of the circuit as having four elements, connected across the amp's output jack in parallel.

Each cab contains two of those elements, represented by the red lines. They are connected together into a single parallel circuit by speaker cables between the amp and the cabs, and internal wiring inside each box....

This is great, although I'm still resolving the issues (or non-issues) concerning the mixed ohmage and series/parallel layout: apparently 16 ohm drivers in series in the combo, apparently mixed series/parallel of 8ohm drivers in the 410 cab.
Thus, the combo w/ 410 stack uses speakers of different ohmages, in series and parallel. If everything was the same ohmage, and all in parallel, it would be a simple matter to just say the power is evenly distributed. However my undertsanding is that the speakers with a higher ohmage that are in parallel will act as one speaker of 8ohm load, distributing the "work" evenly between the two. And there for me is the rub. But what you're saying seems to be that it doesn't matter, and I can see that as well.

I had a situation once where I was playing though another guy's rig - Hartke 410 and 210 stack. I don't recall that there was much difference coming from the cabs - it all sounded like it was working like a 610.
 
Payday is here, and so is my new Rumble 25...
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So, I finally have the opportunity to upgrade my amp. I am selling some gear(hopefully including my massive peavey 15) to help fund the switch. I like the rumble series, and played on the older ones from the little 15w up to a 150w combo. I had a couple questions for you guys though:

1) How do the new v3 rumbles sound compared to the previous generation?
2) Do the larger amps sound like the little ones, just louder?
3) Are the v3`s really as light weight as the factory specs?

I am considering either a rumble head from 150w and up, a rumble combo around the same power level, or maybe finding a micro amp I like and a small cab. Part of my shuffling gear around is anticipation for a move in five months or so where I will lose space. Any opinions are welcome!

Thanks guys!
-Jake
 
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So, I finally have the opportunity to upgrade my amp. I am selling some gear(hopefully including my massive peavey 15) to help fund the switch. I like the rumble series, and played on the older ones from the little 15w up to a 150w combo. I had a couple questions for you guys though:

1) How do the new v3 rumbles sound compared to the previous generation?
2) Do the larger amps sound like the little ones, just louder?
3) Are the v3`s really as light weight as the factory specs?

I am considering either a rumble head from 150w and up, a rumble combo around the same power level, or maybe finding a micro amp I like and a small cab. Part of my shuffling gear around is anticipation for a move in five months or so where I will lose space. Any opinions are welcome!

Thanks guys!
-Jake
All good questions, Jake!
1) The V3 Rumbles from the 40 up are more tube like in character. Here, read this Fender Rumble Talk
2) Similar, but each combo has it's own vibe. There's no substitute for the headroom that either the 200 or 500 gives.
3) Yes!

If you aren't playing out or in a jam band, either the Rumble 40 or 100 combos make for excellent personal bass rigs. Small & lightweight both in size and price but, HUGE sound with that fabulous Fender tone. World Class build quality and reliability. Do yourself a BIG favor and go try some out. You'll be glad you did.
 
I tend to like big amps for their hefty sound, I got away from the weight-heavy Peavey stuff years ago. I went from a rig of 1 or 2 fifteens, sometimes 410s, etc. I have 2 of each. Powered with 800 watts GK or Markbass. I bought a 500 combo and never looked back. In fact I'm probably going to sell my Genz and GK stuff. The Rumble has handled any gig I've thrown at it. Master volume not been over 12. And we play loud. My biggest gripe is that, being a small amp, the 500 combo is a little low to the ground for me to hear. sometimes I tilt it back slightly, but then some of the places we play, I get a bad harmonic from the low end bouncing around in the ceiling. Sometimes I raise it up, but lose some of the low end. But whatev, Love the amp. Love it so much I also bought a 500 head. And will probably buy another 210.
 
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I didn`t see any last time I went to GC and Sam Ash in Columbus or I would have. I found a v3 200w combo for $320 with free shipping. It says it only weighs 35lbs, and has a 15" speaker(I`m a sucker for 15`s). I am worried anything smaller than something like this won`t do it for me. I like the idea of the 500w combo, but don`t know if I can justify the extra $200(and it has 10`s).

I guess I should mention what I`ve been playing. I`ve been drafted into bass in a small-med Jazz band here at college(using the school`s GK now), and occasionally jamming/doing random old rock stuff.
 
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The 500 combo is back ordered a lot. They can't seem to build enough to satisfy the demand.

I would encourage you to try to find one in stock at a local shop and audition it. The 15 of the 200 and the 210s of the 500 do have a bit of a different sound. Not too different, but it is there. I personally favor the 210 configuration.

If you like the sound of the 15... I would encourage you to JUMP ON THAT 200 Combo NOW! That is a really good price on that amp...
 
This is great, although I'm still resolving the issues (or non-issues) concerning the mixed ohmage and series/parallel layout: apparently 16 ohm drivers in series in the combo, apparently mixed series/parallel of 8ohm drivers in the 410 cab.

I had a situation once where I was playing though another guy's rig - Hartke 410 and 210 stack. I don't recall that there was much difference coming from the cabs - it all sounded like it was working like a 610.
Your experience with that Hartke stack makes sense, assuming you weren't running up into the kilowatt level.

In the Rumble line, you can mix and match any of the heads, cabs and larger combos without fear of damaging anything. At least at the moment.

If Fender ever releases a 1,000 watt Rumble head, then cab matching will become more of an issue.

For example, the Rumble 115 extension cab would be at risk, if it was mis-matched with a Rumble 410 and played continuously at high volume. With the 410 in the usual position on top, the player might not catch the audible signs of that 300-watt 15 being pushed into overload, and there would be a distinct possibility of damaging it.
 
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Your experience with that Hartke stack makes sense, assuming you weren't running up into the kilowatt level.

In the Rumble line, you can mix and match any of the heads, cabs and larger combos without fear of damaging anything. At least at the moment.

If Fender ever releases a 1,000 watt Rumble head, then cab matching will become more of an issue.

For example, the Rumble 115 extension cab would be at risk, if it was mis-matched with a Rumble 410 and played continuously at high volume. With the 410 in the usual position on top, the player might not catch the audible signs of that 300-watt 15 being pushed into overload, and there would be a distinct possibility of damaging it.

I am always backwards, but that's me: My favorite stack du jour is a GK Neo 15-III with a GK 410 NEO-II, 410s on the bottom. I use the 410s for lows and the 15 for mids; to me, 15 are all about the mids. And that stack fed with 800 W smokes.

Still, The Fender combo is a different thing: it sounds thicker even though it's only 210s. I usually push the midrange a lot on the combo for more of a 15" driver sound. I've said this before though: I bought the combo in the strength of the speakers. Those two little 10s are like the tough little Lollipop Guild of bass ampdom.
 
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Got to use my Rumble 500 combo at a gig last night and it was magic. I had the lead guitar on one side of me with his mesa boogie road king half stack my heavey handed drummer on the other and the occasional join in of the singer with his peavey half stack. Well they didnt know what they were in for this thing screams. Didnt even push it hard used the distortion on some Primus and Metallica. Not bad gritty but no low end loss. All in all I give it two thumbs up.