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Fender Rumble Club

You know, "they" say that vertical stacks of the same, or very similar, speakers gives a beneficial coupling effect that mismatched stacks don't get. And I don't think it's just the "mismatch police" here on TB that says that! I dunno from experience, but that's why some Rumblers like to stack two 210s, for the added dbs and greater dispersion than a normal 410. Just sumpin' to consider.



IDK 'bout all that. I just know this sounds awesome. (200c/112)Not really louder, but fuller.
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For clarity, Goner said this, not me:

"IDK 'bout all that. I just know this sounds awesome. (200c/112)Not really louder, but fuller."
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:oops:Yeah. I've never figured out how to respond to part of a post. My bad.:sorry: [someone will prolly tell me which I'll remember until I go get another(generic)Dr. Peppertm]
 
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:oops:Yeah. I've never figured out how to respond to part of a post. My bad.:sorry: [someone will prolly tell me which I'll remember until I go get another(generic)Dr. Peppertm]
The trick is to know how HTML code works. Having years of editing my own website under my belt I do okay, but even then I stumble every so often. So good luck with that! :thumbsup:
Oh, and good luck with the memory part too, I'm right there with you! :laugh: :roflmao:
 
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You know, "they" say that vertical stacks of the same, or very similar, speakers gives a beneficial coupling effect that mismatched stacks don't get. And I don't think it's just the "mismatch police" here on TB that says that! I dunno from experience, but that's why some Rumblers like to stack two 210s, for the added dbs and greater dispersion than a normal 410. Just sumpin' to consider.
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Nope! No! Sorry I brung it up!! Forget I said anything! I've seen quite enough purported satellite photos that look just like low level (I mean toy drone level) hi res photos to keep me paranoid about ever skinny-dipping again. Nobody wants to see that and I don't want anyone to lose their lunch.
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Yeaaaaaaah, a lot of us aren't too happy about that one
 
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:oops:Yeah. I've never figured out how to respond to part of a post. My bad.:sorry: ... ...


The main thing is just be sure you write after the last "[/QUOTE]"
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... ... [someone will prolly tell me which I'll remember until I go get another(generic)Dr. Peppertm]


OooOoo, I love (generic)Dr. Pepper™. Mr. Pibb©, and Dr. Thunder® (of course) are what I'm most familiar with. But, I understand there's a couple others.
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The main thing is just be sure you write after the last "
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OooOoo, I love (generic)Dr. Pepper™. Mr. Pibb©, and Dr. Thunder® (of course) are what I'm most familiar with. But, I understand there's a couple others.
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Dr. Thunder is good , but Winn-Dixie/Southeast Grocers Dr. Chek is excellent (I don't have the 'circle R thingy on my keyboard)
 
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OooOoo, I love (generic)Dr. Pepper™. Mr. Pibb©, and Dr. Thunder® (of course) are what I'm most familiar with. But, I understand there's a couple others.
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Dr. Thunder is good , but Winn-Dixie/Southeast Grocers Dr. Chek is excellent (I don't have the 'circle R thingy on my keyboard)


Way to go, there, PlaidMan, ... uh, ... well, ... um, at least you got the main thing right! :thumbsup: You, uh, kinda stepped on the first "[QUOTE=..." part so now it looks like you're saying what I actually said. Aaa-annd, I kindly had to disable that "[/QUOTE" in the middle, which was automagically put there(!), to keep from looking like I was saying what you actually said. Ya got all that? Yeah, I know, clear as swamp water. But the gators'll git ya if ya don't watch out!

But, hey! You're making progress, grasshopper! :smug: And your small font "TM" in the original post of this topic, about (generic)Dr. Pepper, showed real creativity! I'm 'onna give you a "A" fer affort! Proud of ya, son. (not too condescending, eh?) :laugh:
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Here are some numbers: With a nominal -40 dBu test tone at 400 Hz into the input of my Rumble 100 combo, all controls flat (12 o'clock position), I plugged the XLR output into a balanced input of a line level mixer and set the level to read -6 on the VU meter. Rotating the master clockwise from 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock raises the level by 9 dB to about +3VU. Rotating the master counter-clockwise from 12 o'clock to 9 o'clock reduces the level by about 12 dB to -18VU. So under these admittedly primitive test conditions, the sweep from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock induces a change of about 21 dB (with steady-state tones, VU are equivalent to dB for all intents and purposes).

BUT, if you set the level on your sound reinforcement system after ballparking the master at, say, 12 o'clock, you're only changing that level by +9 or -12 dB even with fairly substantial changes in the master level. If your mixer channel fader is set at the unity gain position, there would be no adverse effects on clipping by raising the amp's master level as above, or on audible noise by lowering the amp's master level, with just about any well designed mixer. It's noteworthy that rotating the master control past 3 o'clock to the extreme clockwise position has little to no effect on the measured output level from the XLR line output (less than 2 dB), with my 100. That may be a result of the built-in delta-comp limiter, but with a -40 input signal, I doubt it.

Very interesting experiment. I just purchased a Rumble 40 (not studio) primarily to use with an semi-acoustic trio (acoustic guitar, cajon, electric bass) for small coffee-house/restaurant shows, replacing a Yorkville Bloc 80. I have not received it yet. At first when I read the DI was post-eq/volume, I was quite disappointed since it seemed to me to be a line out with an XLR connection. After reading all the Wiki posts on the subject, it seems to me it is a line out with circuitry to simulate the amp mic'ed. This now sounds quite interesting. I can't wait to try it out. I hope it is up to the task.

My question here on this thread is, should the DI out be considered a line-level signal? Also a 9dB increase seems quite significant to me but I would not expect someone to suddenly do that unless they are mad at an outrageously loud guitarist.

Thanks for the quite informative post.
 
Very interesting experiment. I just purchased a Rumble 40 (not studio) primarily to use with an semi-acoustic trio (acoustic guitar, cajon, electric bass) for small coffee-house/restaurant shows, replacing a Yorkville Bloc 80. I have not received it yet. At first when I read the DI was post-eq/volume, I was quite disappointed since it seemed to me to be a line out with an XLR connection. After reading all the Wiki posts on the subject, it seems to me it is a line out with circuitry to simulate the amp mic'ed. This now sounds quite interesting. I can't wait to try it out. I hope it is up to the task.

My question here on this thread is, should the DI out be considered a line-level signal? Also a 9dB increase seems quite significant to me but I would not expect someone to suddenly do that unless they are mad at an outrageously loud guitarist.

Thanks for the quite informative post.
It is definitely up to the task and if by DI out you mean the XLR "LINE OUT" jack, the answer is yes. But, I have to ask, because I do a similar gig, why do you need FOH support? That would be adding a lot of volume you don't really need for those types of venues. I'm not criticizing, I'm just curious.
 
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