Fender Rumble Club

[G-Dog]

The Ampeg 210 AV is rated at 200 watts. The Fender Rumble 210 is rated at 700 watts (program), 350 watts (continuous). The Fender is going to handle nearly double the power going into it. It is going to handle the more power you are wanting to push it with with much, much less chance of ever hurting the speakers. It will also remain clean and clear at that higher volume. It was designed to magnetically hold either the Rumble 200 or 500 heads which shows you just how much faith Fender puts in the Rumble 210.

The Ampeg is also a sealed infinite baffle cabinet so you only hear the front of the speakers. The Fender is a correctly, scientifically, musically ported cabinet which allows the speaker to "breathe" and you will be hearing the back of the speakers as well as the front. The Fender will produce much better and smoother lows due to the porting. You might find yourself adjusting the eq on your amp just a little, which would be normal.

In a side by side comparison, the Fender would have a much better tone and be able to go louder. It will also fill the room with a much more satisfying bass feeling for a player and most definitely for the audience.

Sic 'em, T! And don't forget that the same speakers in the Rumble 210 cab are also in the Rumble Stage 800 combo where they can get up to 400 watts continuous (~RMS) and in the black grille Rumble 210 designed specifically as an extension to the Stage 800, where it too can see up to 400 watts continuous. That 350 cont. rating on paper was a very conservative call way back before any of the Rumble 800s came on the scene. And not only tough, but my R500c has always impressed this ex-15" snob with its full, rich low tones!

Thanks for posting the pic, @G-Dog ! I was just about to pull the grill off my Studio 40 and take a look-see. You saved me the effort. Does the Studio 40 using a preset with the Ragin' Peg SVT amp and 8x10 Vintage cab sound just like an Ampeg SVT head with a fridge cab? Nope. But it ain't half bad! A Stage 800 plus 3 2x10 cabs might get close.

Je t'en prie! How do you like that? Port dressing, tubes and acoustic fill!?! Who'd a thunk it?

But be careful, and don't overload that metaphorical Rumble Stage 800 with 3 Rumble 2x10 cabs. With its internal speakers that's a 2 ohm load total and just a bit too much, lest the magic smoke appear. The Rumble 800 HD head can handle a 2 ohm total load (4 x 2x10 cabs!), but the Stage and the new non-modeling Rumble 800 COMBO can "only" handle 2 2x10 Rumble cabs all night long. Still, none too shabby!

Excellent and thank you for taking the time,

Welcome back, Dats! Been a few years since we last saw you here. Got a Rumble yet? Ready to join The Club? Soon? A Rumble 210 cab, or three, would certainly qualify.
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[Hot Rats]

Welcome back, Dats! Been a few years since we last saw you here. Got a Rumble yet? Ready to join The Club? Soon? A Rumble 210 cab, or three, would certainly qualify.
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Yea, it's been a bit 'o time, no rumble yet. I went down the Ampeg Mini SVT route for a few years. Like I said, I love it, but it has its limits. I have the TV15 if I need it (but dang it's heavy) and the TV10 for the cozy settings. I'm glad to hear the rumble should be more than enough because the rig still needs to fit on my motorcycle and the rumble 210 will. Plus I get to use my Streamliner 600 again. I am going to go look at the rumble 500 and get an idea of just how loud we are talking, but I'm hopeful about the 2x10 cabinet.

 

[G-Dog]

This is my brand new Rumble 800 Combo. Amazing amp!!

Wow, MB! Sorry for the delay. @MB_Ramone, you are now member #1581 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

... ... , how do speakers with different magnets (neo vs ferrite) sound?
If I'll buy a 210, could I have one between the combo and the cab playing louder than the other one?

Sometimes, MB, Neo speakers may sound a little more bright, or articulate, than ferrite speakers, but not always. I actually can't hear any significant difference between my Rumble 500 combo ferrite speakers and my Bassman 115 Neo speaker!

If you're asking if an Rumble extension speaker can be much louder, or softer, than the combo it's connected to, the answer is generally "no", they are not normally setup to do that. There is not usually any Volume control between a combo and its extension cab. But, of course, there may be some way that someone somewhere has devised to do this. But, I haven't seen or read about that, that I recall.

But, you could connect the FX Send of a Rumble combo to the Instrument Input of another Rumble combo and adjust their volumes differently. Two Rumble 800 combos like this would be awesome!! You would probably also have to adjust their EQ differently, too.

Please tell us a bit about yourself, MB, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular. You're already fitting in here these last several months. So you know that we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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[54 RPM]

I tried the sock trick on my Rumble 40 today !
Here is a pic of one of the 2 very basic ports :

And with the socks in :

It’s working and the farting port noise disappeared
Soundwise it just seems a little less deep in the low register which is somehow logical.

Gotta say that i can clearly hear now the speaker starts to crack when playing a little loud with some bass eq added or in vintage mode tho... and it happens pretty quick at medium volumes

I’m having a hard time understanding how those 10 speakers could handle 200w of power in the Rumble 800... are those different speakers ?

 

[SoulReflection]

I tried the sock trick on my Rumble 40 today !
Here is a pic of one of the 2 very basic ports :

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And with the socks in :

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It’s working and the farting port noise disappeared
Soundwise it just seems a little less deep in the low register which is somehow logical.

Gotta say that i can clearly hear now the speaker starts to crack when playing a little loud with some bass eq added or in vintage mode tho... and it happens pretty quick at medium volumes

I’m having a hard time understanding how those 10 speakers could handle 200w of power in the Rumble 800... are those different speakers ?

And wifey says, "Hey Honey, you seem to be missing a pair of socks."...

 

[13bass]

On the other hand I never get any of these "farting" or crackling sounds from either my Rumble 40 or 100 that some folks here and have never had any issue with either amp cranked with volume in the 3-30 o'clock range with no change in tone, just way louder, and vintage is always on for me. Admittedly I have never dimed the volume and/or gain either.

 

[SoulReflection]

On the other hand I never get any of these "farting" or crackling sounds from either my Rumble 40 or 100 that some folks here and have never had any issue with either amp cranked with volume in the 3-30 o'clock range with no change in tone, just way louder, and vintage is always on for me. Admittedly I have never dimed the volume and/or gain either.

And you still have all your socks?

 

[MB_Ramone]

Wow, MB! Sorry for the delay

There's no problem!!

Sometimes, MB, Neo speakers may sound a little more bright, or articulate, than ferrite speakers, but not always. I actually can't hear any significant difference between my Rumble 500 combo ferrite speakers and my Bassman 115 Neo speaker!

My question is not about the sound, but...

If you're asking if an Rumble extension speaker can be much louder, or softer, than the combo it's connected to, the answer is generally "no", they are not normally setup to do that. There is not usually any Volume control between a combo and its extension cab. But, of course, there may be some way that someone somewhere has devised to do this. But, I haven't seen or read about that, that I recall.

...if the combo SPL and the cab SPL are different, such as combo 94dB cab 98dB, when I connect the extension cab, this cab will be louder than the combo. I would not like the volumes of the two units to be unbalanced.
For this reason I generally don't like mixing speaker types.

But, you could connect the FX Send of a Rumble combo to the Instrument Input of another Rumble combo and adjust their volumes differently

Another 800 combo? A 210 cab is better for me, I can find a used one for 250 Euros, while a new 800 combo costs 840 Euros.

 

[13bass]

And you still have all your socks?

Ok, I confess the real reason is that in south Florida everyone wears flip flops and I honestly can't remember where I put any of my socks....

 

[Miles_ONeal]

The Ampeg 210 AV is rated at 200 watts. The Fender Rumble 210 is rated at 700 watts (program), 350 watts (continuous). The Fender is going to handle nearly double the power going into it. It is going to handle the more power you are wanting to push it with with much, much less chance of ever hurting the speakers. It will also remain clean and clear at that higher volume. It was designed to magnetically hold either the Rumble 200 or 500 heads which shows you just how much faith Fender puts in the Rumble 210.

The Ampeg is also a sealed infinite baffle cabinet so you only hear the front of the speakers. The Fender is a correctly, scientifically, musically ported cabinet which allows the speaker to "breathe" and you will be hearing the back of the speakers as well as the front. The Fender will produce much better and smoother lows due to the porting. You might find yourself adjusting the eq on your amp just a little, which would be normal.

In a side by side comparison, the Fender would have a much better tone and be able to go louder. It will also fill the room with a much more satisfying bass feeling for a player and most definitely for the audience.

i feel like this is wiki material.

 

[DaveDeVille]

my new Rumble 800 ...
loud , lightweight and portable .
haven't gigged it yet , but i'm really diggin' the tone so far ...
may have to hook up an 8 ohm 15" cab to see if i can gig outdoor stages with this .

 

[G-Dog]

my new Rumble 800 ...
loud , lightweight and portable .
haven't gigged it yet , but i'm really diggin' the tone so far ...
may have to hook up an 8 ohm 15" cab to see if i can gig outdoor stages with this .

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Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, Dave! @DaveDeVille, you are now member #1582 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Please put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge.

If your heart is set on a single 15" extension cab with this monster combo, then I would regrettably recommend something other than a Rumble 115 or Bassman 115. The Rumble is rated 'just' 300 watts continuous and the Bassman just 350 watts continuous. And, of course, the non-modeling new Rumble 800 COMBO can put up to 400 watts into a single 8 ohm cab. Not good for cranking, especially outdoors. Now, you can make the Rumble or Bassman work safely, if you diligently and consistently keep the volume way down, and also set the Impedance Switch to 4 ohm for less power. OR you could add two Rumble 115 cabs, and each could then get only up to 267 watts, quite safely! Ah! Awesomeness!!

How's about telling us a bit about yourself, Dave, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular? We have all kinds here, so you're bound to fit right in. But we all love to ... ... ...

Rumble On!
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[G-Dog]

... ... ... My question is not about the [tone], but...
...if the combo SPL and the cab SPL are different, such as combo 94dB cab 98dB, when I connect the extension cab, this cab will be louder than the combo. I would not like the volumes of the two units to be unbalanced.
For this reason I generally don't like mixing speaker types. ... ... ...

Ah! I see. Well, don't worry, MB. Although those kind of sensitivity specifications are not published, rest assured that the entire Rumble line of combos and cabinets are all designed and tuned to play well and sound good together in whatever way one chooses to mix and match them, even different speaker sizes. Just pay attention to their power rating numbers* and don't risk overpowering any cab(s), as I just warned DaveDeVille.

And, as I've often pointed out, the very conservative 350 watt rating of the Rumble 210 cab is the exception to my rating warning*, since those exact same speakers come standard in the Rumble Stage 800 combo and can obviously handle up to 400 watts there. So, by all means, get the Rumble 210 cab for your Rumble 800 COMBO! It's a match made in 7ender heaven.
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[G-Dog]

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Attention: Rumble Club Wiki Edit Alert!

@Miles_ONeal, your wish is my command. Thank you, @GregT, for your insightful comparison of the Rumble 210 cab to a competitor. Greg, your comparison post has been linked at the bottom of the Hardware sub-section of the Rumble Talks section of the Rumble Club Wiki page. Your informative post should answer this question whenever it resurfaces in the future!

Greg, please accept the thanks of a grateful Club for your participation and sharing. And be assured that we Rumblers will, indeed, continue to . . . .

Rumble On!​

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[MorrisTheCat]

Trying to open the cab to my Rumble 40 to add some batting. I have removed every screw I can find and the amp is out but I can't find any way to open the cabinet itself.

 

[GregT]

Trying to open the cab to my Rumble 40 to add some batting. I have removed every screw I can find and the amp is out but I can't find any way to open the cabinet itself.

The way into the Rumbles is to remove the grill and then the speaker which is front mounted.

 

[G-Dog]

I tried the sock trick on my Rumble 40 today ! ... It’s working and the farting port noise disappeared
Soundwise it just seems a little less deep in the low register which is somehow logical.
Here is a pic of one of the 2 very basic ports :

And with the socks in :

View attachment 4947721

Gotta say that i can clearly hear now the speaker starts to crack when playing a little loud with some bass eq added or in vintage mode tho... and it happens pretty quick at medium volumes ... ... ...

Thanks for the feedback, 54. I'm glad that helps. Now you just have to decide if you want to install something more permanent, like some acoustic lining. Or, if still under the 2-year warranty, do you want to seek a replacement.​

... ... ... I’m having a hard time understanding how those 10 speakers could handle 200w of power in the Rumble 800... are those different speakers ?

Well, ... uh, ... yeah, the 10" ferrite speakers in the Rumble 500 combo, the Rumble 210 cab, and the Rumble Stage 800 modeling combo are all the same as each other, but they're most certainly a very different model from those in the Rumble 40. And the 10" Neodymium speakers in the newest Rumble 800 non-modeling COMBO are yet another model. Yep, no one would intentionally put these more expensive speakers in a 40 watt combo. They are modern manufacturing miracles, which were impossible back in my youthful days.
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[DaveDeVille]

Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, Dave! @DaveDeVille,
you are now member #1582 in the Fender Rumble Club.
Congratulations and welcome. Please put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping.
How's about telling us a bit about yourself,
Dave, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journey in particular?
We have all kinds here, so you're bound to fit right in. But we all love to ... ... ...
Rumble On

... thanks for the membership !!
Fender Rumble # 1582 added to signature .

just an old guy , been playing semi-professionally since 1975 .
right now i'm gigging with three bands , and i sub for a couple of others .
still having a great time playing , no slowing down for me .
more gear than talent , an unashamed gear slut .

no stranger to the Fender tone stack ,
i've owned :
Fender TB-1200
Fender Bassman 50 blonde w/2/12 cab
Fender Bassman 300pro
Fender Dual Showman head
Fender Bassman TV15 combo

but lately i've been looking for a small , powerful combo to play the small clubs ,
and i think i may have found it with the Rumble 800 !!

 

[54 RPM]

Thanks for the feedback, 54. I'm glad that helps. Now you just have to decide if you want to install something more permanent, like some acoustic lining. Or, if still under the 2-year warranty, do you want to seek a replacement.​

Well, ... uh, ... yeah, the 10" ferrite speakers in the Rumble 500 combo, the Rumble 210 cab, and the Rumble Stage 800 modeling combo are all the same as each other, but they're most certainly a very different model from those in the Rumble 40. And the 10" Neodymium speakers in the newest Rumble 800 non-modeling COMBO are yet another model. Yep, no one would intentionally put these more expensive speakers in a 40 watt combo. They are modern manufacturing miracles, which were impossible back in my youthful days.
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Well... i don’t mind having those old socks in there. Barely noticeable with the grille back on
Thanks again for the tip !

Good to know that the speakers in the upper range have better specs than this one.
Still haven’t decided what to pick next as an upgrade...

 

[G-Dog]

... thanks for the membership !!
Fender Rumble # 1582 added to signature .

just an old guy , been playing semi-professionally since 1975 .
right now i'm gigging with three bands , and i sub for a couple of others .
still having a great time playing , no slowing down for me .
more gear than talent , an unashamed gear slut .

no stranger to the Fender tone stack ,
i've owned :
Fender TB-1200
Fender Bassman 50 blonde w/2/12 cab
Fender Bassman 300pro
Fender Dual Showman head
Fender Bassman TV15 combo

but lately i've been looking for a small , powerful combo to play the small clubs ,
and i think i may have found it with the Rumble 800 !!

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Yep, Tex, I think you'll find that Rumble 800 COMBO is definitely not "all hat and no cattle." It's the real McCoy for lightweight power that pounds the livin' daylight outta the venues.

So, head 'em up, an' move 'em out! Keep those Rumbles rollin'!
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