The vintage effect is a LOW pass filter, not a HPF!
-6dB at 400Hz plus some compression.
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-6dB at 400Hz plus some compression.
Sorry, it's the overdrive that cuts additional lows and highs - in a shape that's nearly identical to the vintage button.
Hey @dawhatthevid - You asked how the overdrive effected the lows and highs. You were quite right it cuts both, I had to set the controls to get a flat(ish) response as in previous post so trace makes sense, it's for indication purposes only really but is a reasonable indicator. Blue trace is 'flattened' using tone controls, red trace when engaging the overdrive...
Hey @dawhatthevid - You asked how the overdrive effected the lows and highs. You were quite right it cuts both, I had to set the controls to get a flat(ish) response as in previous post so trace makes sense, it's for indication purposes only really but is a reasonable indicator. Blue trace is 'flattened' using tone controls, red trace when engaging the overdrive...
My official 7ender cover for the R100 has ripped along 2 seams.
[It's possible that after a certain time of day or hours of being "awake", that I should not be allowed to post.]
That first line of the previous post should read:
"A fair number of modern bass amps have HPF's at a fixed frequency."
[Carry on.]
So many questions. I solved the micro need, with a Cube Micro bass RX...I thought. After using it, I don't care for the voicing. Luckily that need has come and gone, micro bass rx is for sale, excellent condition.'Bout time, Bandy! @Bander, you are now member #1895 in the Fender Rumble Club. Congratulations and welcome. Please put that number in your TalkBass Signature for safe keeping. Then make yourself at home here and on your Rumble Club Wiki page, the repository of all Rumbling wisdom and knowledge. Do you still have your Rumble 25 and/or 40?
The definitive answer to your highly subjective question is most emphatically YES, under certain circumstances! Does the B pickup on the 5-string give a strong signal, relative to the other strings? Are the other strings played through a Rumble 200 sufficient to play with that moderately loud band? ... in which venues? ... Big? ... Moderate? Does the Rumble have, or need, an 8 ohm extension cab? ... or is, or should it be, connected via FX Send & FX Return to another bass amp&cab or combo for reinforcement? You see, Band, such simple qwexxions (with so many unaddressed variables) don't always have simple answers. That's why your searches destroyed your research enthusiasm.
But! Take heart! There have been a great many =1118826&o=date']testimonials here about the mighty prowess of the 'umble Rumble 100 combo!! Yep, it seems to be the Rumble secret weapon that has many, many bassists playing either one combo alone, or two chained via the FX Send of one to the FX Return, for many "moderate gigs" (band loudness and/or venue sizes). At least some, maybe even many, of these involved a low B bass, too! So, just mentally substitute the 140 watt, 1x15" Rumble 200 for the 100 watt, 1x12" Rumble 100 in those testimonials and you have your answer!
So, Band man, how about telling us a bit about yourself, such as your bass experience in general and your Rumble journeys in particular? You'll fit right in here since we have all kinds. But we all love to ... ... ...Rumble On!
Still have the 25 and 40. 40 is mighty awesome. I don't need the 25 any longer, might gift it to someone in need.
On the low B, ill just hit up GC and give a R100 a try. Im gonna be amazed if that cab size can muster 30 hz. Ive got a 4 way active crossover, so I can split a signal to a dedicated amp for the sub 40 hz content. Yea, two amps seems extreme, but its for a practice space, so a one time setup.
Hey all, bit of an update on my rumbling! So I'd been using my Studio 40 for the last month which I really liked but I soon realised that there was so much of it that I doubt I would ever use, and the main thing I've ended up using was the various clean tones and getting a bit distracted by switching between them.
In all this, I realised that all I want is a good solid base so as I was still within the return period I've swapped it for the Rumble 100 which I love. It's great as it's works for home practice, the unit is still nice and compact, and it will have enough extra head room for when I'll want to start playing with others. Plus it's over £100 cheaper that the Studio 40, and it was only marginally more expensive than the Rumble 40.
In all this, I realised that all I want is a good solid base so as I was still within the return period I've swapped it for the Rumble 100 which I love. It's great as it's works for home practice, the unit is still nice and compact, and it will have enough extra head room for when I'll want to start playing with others. Plus it's over £100 cheaper that the Studio 40, and it was only marginally more expensive than the Rumble 40.
This could almost have been my pic, except lefty and MOP inlays (and Fender, according to AI mine pre-dates Squier basses...). Even the stand looks similar.
3. Stripping The Adhesive
I haven't done an update on the Blonde Rumble mod the last couple days, due to life in general and a little issue.
The four sides (top, bottom, left and right) I've been able to sand the old adhesive off. Using my orbital sander it will form up into tiny pills that just roll out from under the sandpaper, as long as you keep the sander moving. Just every few seconds of sanding and brush the pills away. I'm not sure how much of it is the lacquer on the MDF or the adhesive or both. It appears these sections are going to come out great.
The razor blade is for scale. For the most part, the adhesive on the four sides isn't really visible, but if you look close enough, you can see the texture on some of the MDF, of the linen backer that's attached to the Tolex. It can be felt with the hand as a very slight texture. It did seem to harden after a couple days and will sand off as described.
BUT, with what was under the single back panel, the adhesive is a different type. That adhesive looks like a black cobwebs and it hasn't hardened after stripping the Tolex.
When trying the orbital sander, this adhesive almost immediately clogs the sandpaper, if you can get it to do anything. It won't scrape with a razor blade. I haven't tried it yet, but on my previous MDF adhesive removal, I used a hand plane and scraped the top off then sanded it flat and smooth. This stuff still has some gooiness to it, so I'm not so sure I can get the plane to work on this.
I was hesitant to use any liquid solvents, as how it may effect the MDF substrate, but using acetone on a blue paper towel, it appears to get it to roll off in little pills. I will need to be sure not to get the MDF too saturated, as I'm not sure what effect it will have on the resins holding the fibers together in the MDF.
I've been doing this testing inside (sanding in the garage and the acetone in my work room) due to the weather outside today. When the weather improves (cold, light drizzle), I'll get outside and strip the whole back with the acetone, then sand everything to 80 grit. After that, I can then fill any indents and gaps, sand them out, finish sand the cab, then get to the application of the new Tolex.
To be continued.
I'd considered the 200, but the bigger unit size and not to say jump in price meant it's just too much for where I'm at at the moment.
The 100 should do me well for a decent amount of time.
I think my R100c gets as loud or louder than a Genz Benz Contour 500-115T that I used to gig with, but my R100c is one of the 4 Ohm models that I put a Celestion BN12-300S (4) in and that sucker rips!
Weighs 28 lbs less than the GB Contour did: 20 lbs vs. 48 lbs.
Between buying a (like new) used R100 and buying one on sale from 7ender, I paid about what an R200 cost. This gives me more flexibility, a full 200 watts output (for the rare occasion I need it), and redundancy (at the expense of 100W in those rare occasions). There's also flexibility, such as the time I had to lend one to the keyboard player. (I normally prefer to use both even in low volume situations, because 2x12 sounds better than one, so I still had my other available.)
Plus I didn't have to spend that money all at once.
So, Miles, to be crystal clear: you're offering the dual R100 combos as an alternative to the single R200c, right?
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I'm offering an alternative based on my experience with the R100s. Not really promoting. I have yet to play through an R200 (although I did play a 1964 Thunderbird II through an R500 (cream) today.
Ran the Rumble 500 and extension cab at my gig yesterday, Still rocking!
Haven't posted here in a while since I got rid of all my Rumble gear. BUT, I still hung onto my Rumble 100! Great little practice amp and awesome on small duo gigs or low volume gigs. So to see I am still in the family, just did a pool side gig at a local resort and it was perfect for it!
Thanks for your thoughts on this. I'd recently seen the Wiki links to the threads about connecting combos and it's an interesting rabbit hole to run down (given I needed a new one after finally deciding on my upgrade!).
I'm new to this concept, and this will probably have been hashed out multiple times so sorry for drudging it up again
If I'm correct in understanding Miles comment, that it would seem that connecting 2 x R100c and getting stereo 12" speakers is "better and more powerful" than 1 x R200c (which is only 140W on it's own) with single 15" speaker?
I think I saw a reply to a "connecting combos" thread that was saying that the two 100s don't actually make the 200W (in some technical fashion that I don't quite understand), but is it that the two 100s would actually make more that the stand alone "R140c"?
If You daisy chain 2 r100s it would be still mono.Thanks for your thoughts on this. I'd recently seen the Wiki links to the threads about connecting combos and it's an interesting rabbit hole to run down (given I needed a new one after finally deciding on my upgrade!).
I'm new to this concept, and this will probably have been hashed out multiple times so sorry for drudging it up again
If I'm correct in understanding Miles comment, that it would seem that connecting 2 x R100c and getting stereo 12" speakers is "better and more powerful" than 1 x R200c (which is only 140W on it's own) with single 15" speaker?
I think I saw a reply to a "connecting combos" thread that was saying that the two 100s don't actually make the 200W (in some technical fashion that I don't quite understand), but is it that the two 100s would actually make more that the stand alone "R140c"?
Yes, it would be "theoretically maximum" 200 Watts.
As of more "powerful", that depends. (speaker efficiency matters)
2 12" speakers have a surface area of 226 in^2, while a single 15" is 177 in^2. So could move more air at the same speaker displacement levels (how far the speaker cones move)
Also You would have a modular/redundant setup, so could use one combo for smaller gigs/rehearsals, and if "something goes wrong", You still got a working combo.
Chaining a r100 to a r200(500/800/etc) is still possible. As long as they both got efx send/return, any combination works.
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Oops! Highlights the naivety of me saying something without thinking properly! As a friend once say, "those who think before they speak usually don't!"If You daisy chain 2 r100s it would be still mono.
Harsh, but true!I'm 100% home practice for the forseeable future, and then I'd like to venture out to play with others. I'm happy that the 100 is more than enough for my needs for some time (if not realistically forever!), but the thought is always there of "what if". It's good to know that an option of grabbing a second 100 one day if I need it seems more suitable to my situation, and would give the extra. There are pros and cons of everything, but this seems like a good option.
Just a couple of additional curiosity questions, again, apologies if this has been said before, but I've not seen it yet....
As you need to connect the FX send from combo 1 to the FX return to combo 2, does this mean that you can't use pedals in the FX loop anymore?
And the other question is, do the control knobs on the first combo drive both speakers? Does combo 2 effectively become just an extra speak and the combo 2 knobs don't do anything?
