Fodera Club Part XX

[KoaFodera]

From my first gig with this bass! Awesome
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Did you record any of the gig on video that you might be able to share with us?

 

[jumbodbassman]

I was kind of thinking that. Plus the real Joey is a bigger guy and that way he wouldn't feel jaded that I didn't name a bass after him.

Jason is patient , he will gladly wait a while

 

[LeonD]

Jason,

On a single pickup bass, how do you determine where to put the pickup? Is there a single location or is it variable?

 

[Christian Houmann]

Did you record any of the gig on video that you might be able to share with us?

Hopefully monday

 

[narud]

Duncans are made for us in Seymour Duncan's Custom Shop and the Fodera Dual Coils are made by a longtime friend who winds them for us. Tonally they are very similar. However, we use a 60's winding on the Standards (with 1970's spacing -- go figure) because as we tested out the various options that would comprise the Standards, they sounded the best. Originally we were thinking 70's wound PUP's in 70's spacing, but the 60's wind just sounded better...

J

what does "60's wind" and "70's wind" refer to when youre talking about a dual coil humbucker and not a fender style pickup?

 

[SRFSterling5]

what does "60's wind" and "70's wind" refer to when youre talking about a dual coil humbucker and not a fender style pickup?

I'm guessing but I'm sure Jason can give a better description, but seems as though the humbuckers are designed as two single coils
in one housing and can be tapped for single coil mode. The winding referring to the number of winds on each coil based on a 60's or 70's jazz bass. Probably one wind hotter than the other. All I know is that the single coil mode on my E5S sounds awesome, very much jazz bass influenced.

 

[kamakiriad7]

All I know is that the single coil mode on my E5S sounds awesome, very much jazz bass influenced.

+1. I rarely use humbucking mode unless I'm soloing the neck pickup. Loving the single-coil sound!!

 

[Mitchthebassplayer]

Ha, I literally NEVER use my bass in single coil mode....LOVE the Duncan duals!

 

[jumbodbassman]

Ha, I literally NEVER use my bass in single coil mode....LOVE the Duncan duals!

and that is parallel not series correct?

I am awaiting my first DC as i got the Laura email recently on my MS , prior 6 all have various fender style emgs, barts, SD

 

[Mitchthebassplayer]

and that is parallel not series correct?

I am awaiting my first DC as i got the Laura email recently on my MS , prior 6 all have various fender style emgs, barts, SD

what's the difference again?

 

[narud]

I'm guessing but I'm sure Jason can give a better description, but seems as though the humbuckers are designed as two single coils
in one housing and can be tapped for single coil mode. The winding referring to the number of winds on each coil based on a 60's or 70's jazz bass. Probably one wind hotter than the other. All I know is that the single coil mode on my E5S sounds awesome, very much jazz bass influenced.

yeah, but youre ideally winding each coil to sound best as a humbucking pair. its one of the reasons why when split, they dont sound as good as straight singles. are we just talking about a one dual being hotter than the other?

i loved the duncan duals as a humbucking pickup. one of my favorites out there. split to single was pretty thin though. didnt really dig it. the aeros they used to use sounded much better in single coil mode but i didnt like the humbucking sound as much. the ability to split the duncans seemed like something you can do but the coils were wound to sound best as a whole.

 

[Baird6869]

+1. I rarely use humbucking mode unless I'm soloing the neck pickup. Loving the single-coil sound!!

I am the opposite.

I don't notice a humongous difference between single and dual modes though.

Unless I need a P sound (soloed neck DC), I almost always run in DC with the bridge PU favoured a tiny bit and bass, treble and mids all boosted very slightly. Only bass I boost bass/treble/mids all the time, which is kinda strange.

 

[narud]

I don't notice a humongous difference between single and dual modes though.

 

[Just Thumpin']

Variable, depending on the tonal goals of the player...but there are a couple of sweet spots...

J

Jason,

On a single pickup bass, how do you determine where to put the pickup? Is there a single location or is it variable?

 

[kamakiriad7]

Ha, I literally NEVER use my bass in single coil mode....LOVE the Duncan duals!

I am the opposite.
Unless I need a P sound (soloed neck DC), I almost always run in DC with the bridge PU favoured a tiny bit and bass, treble and mids all boosted very slightly. Only bass I boost bass/treble/mids all the time, which is kinda strange.

This is why I love these basses! Such a large amount of versatility can be drawn... different strokes, different folks. It can be difficult to discern a large difference between single-coil and humbucking - I sometimes have to look down and check to see if the switch is up. (I recall having the same problem years ago when I first bought a Stingray 5.) It's there, though: flipping the switch down seems to add a bit more midrange and gain.

 

[basses55]

Jason, I was wondering a few things re the pups in regards to your post below:

1. Are the Duncan DCs closer to your Fodera Standard's 60s wind, or 70s wind? Where do they fall in comparison tonally?

2. Forgive me if I've missed it somewhere- are both the Emperor and Monarch Standards 70s spacing or 60s?

Thanks-

Duncans are made for us in Seymour Duncan's Custom Shop and the Fodera Dual Coils are made by a longtime friend who winds them for us. Tonally they are very similar. However, we use a 60's winding on the Standards (with 1970's spacing -- go figure) because as we tested out the various options that would comprise the Standards, they sounded the best. Originally we were thinking 70's wound PUP's in 70's spacing, but the 60's wind just sounded better...

J

 

[Vic]

+1

 

[gridchin]

Wow! Specs ?

Model: Emperor 6 Bolt-On (Viceroy shape)
Top Wood: Holly (solid)
Body Wood: Alder
Fingerboard Wood: Birdseye Maple
Neck Wood: 3-pc Hard Rock Maple
Scale Length: 34" (Extended Low-B)
Strings spacing: 17.5mm
Frets:24 (Large)
FB Inlay: Abalone Blocks
Pickups: Fodera / Duncan Dual Coils in TK position
Preamp: Fodera / Pope Custom Shop, 3-Band
Control Layout: Matt G Layout

By the way, Happy Birthday!!!

 

[DELACIUS]

Model: Emperor 6 Bolt-On (Viceroy shape)
Top Wood: Holly (solid)
Body Wood: Alder
Fingerboard Wood: Birdseye Maple
Neck Wood: 3-pc Hard Rock Maple
Scale Length: 34" (Extended Low-B)
Strings spacing: 17.5mm
Frets:24 (Large)
FB Inlay: Abalone Blocks
Pickups: Fodera / Duncan Dual Coils in TK position
Preamp: Fodera / Pope Custom Shop, 3-Band
Control Layout: Matt G Layout

By the way, Happy Birthday!!!

My specs, totally my specs for next bass.

 

[Baird6869]

+1

Don't get me wrong, there is obviously a difference when I am playing alone in my studio, but on a loud gig, there is not a huge difference in tone between the SC/DC modes on my E5S.

Maybe with the Duncan DCs in a Custom (played them but never gigged them) but if most E5S owners hear a staggering difference between the dual and single modes in the Fodera dual coils on a gig.... I need to go for a hearing test or send my E5S back to Fodera for service.