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Fodera Imperial Elite 5-String Available!

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#122
Brad Johnson said:
It's a good question. First you have to determine what equal quality is (that's a tough one) and then you have to find one with comparable demand (even tougher). I think Fodera's demand is the envy of the industry.
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I think of "quality " as the overall built quality in terms of construction and attention to "details", such as finish.

And yes I guess in terms of "desirability" they are envied by some.
 
#126
lamarjones said:
In post 9 you asked that first, in post 10 Ken stated that it would be better to slot rather than continue to pursue a spec bass, in post #16 he furthers identifies attributes in which it would be suitable to pursue the spec bass, IE not slipping on customers timelines.

And I stated that was the response, you can back with

"Are they using those huge price increases to try to bring supply and demand back into line?"

which, we both know its Fodera and that is not going to do a thing. I could have DEFINITELY gotten a good refin somewhere else, but as you stated, I did the research, I knew what I was up against. Which is why I am cool with it.

I don't mind conversations, I just need people to acknowledge they are hearing things as well. Not just selectively.

Can't beleive you just quit KJUNG :smug:
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And this is what I love about stuff like this.

My post explaining why batch building made sense was again #43. Your need to have people acknowledge they are hearing things is interesting in light of the fact that you obviously weren't hearing me. I even quoted the entire post AGAIN when I asked if anyone had read it.

It was a post that was not responded to afterwards. Containing things that were not specifically spoken of beforehand.
:hmm:

I'll leave the fact that you didn't address the rest of the questions I asked that you said were answered to speak for itself.
;)
 
#128
Brad Johnson said:
Mine was an Anthony Jackson Contrabass for $2500.
:hyper::bassist:
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I paid about $4,800 for my totally tricked out Emperor Elite 5 in the late 90's. I played the heck out of it for 7 years, and sold it for $5,100 a few years ago. Since it was fully depreciated, it was like getting paid a couple thousand dollars for playing it all those years!:hyper:

The one thing about low supply is that it makes the used market a total 'sellers market'.
 
#129
I guess Fodera own buyers need some perspective. If you order one, just forget about it until it's ready. It makes me think of my wife taking my daughter to a Senegalese braiding salon for a cute hairdo. The braiding took eight hours, if my wife and kids had been in a hurry, it would not have made sense to go there.

Personally, I doubt if I will ever buy a Fodera, but if I did, I would just have to get what i could find in stock or go used. I would never have the patience to wait three years.:)
 
#130
KJung said:
I paid about $4,800 for my totally tricked out Emperor Elite 5 in the late 90's. I played the heck out of it for 7 years, and sold it for $5,100 a few years ago. Since it was fully depreciated, it was like getting paid a couple thousand dollars for playing it all those years!:hyper:

The one thing about low supply is that it makes the used market a total 'sellers market'.
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Agreed... and it probably factors into at least a few minds when it comes time to order. It would factor into mine. Not taking a beating if you unexpectedly have to sell something is a good thing in at least some minds.
 
#131
Dr. Cheese said:
I guess Fodera own buyers need some perspective. If you order one, just forget about it until it's ready. It makes me think of my wife taking my daughter to a Senegalese braiding salon for a cute hairdo. The braiding took eight hours, if my wife and kids had been in a hurry, it would not have made sense to go there.

Personally, I doubt if I will ever buy a Fodera, but if I did, I would just have to get what i could find in stock or go used. I would never have the patience to wait three years.:)
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Hence... the Essence!

:D
 
#133
Shovelbone said:
I wonder how long it would take to get a Fodera t-shirt?
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Brad Johnson said:
Estimate 3 weeks.
:hiding:
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Actually, it all depends upon whether it's a bolt-on, set-neck, or neck-through. . .

:hiding:

Ok, having said that, I will offer my apologies to Just Thumpin' for my part in this. His intent was obviously not for this to ensue, so, sorry for this.

P.S. Also, just so there's no confusion, I'd own nine Fodera's if I had the cabbage.
 
#136
spade2you said:
Ok, what about an Essance shirt?????? :p
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That depends upon whether it's a shirt they constructed from materials around the shop, or whether it was a custom ordered shirt that wasn't claimed - still, should be in stock now.

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#138
Brad Johnson said:
And this is what I love about stuff like this.

My post explaining why batch building made sense was again #43.
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In the instances you are talking about, batch building makes sense to a certain point.

Take you example of cutting a top and then having enough wood to make another top out of it. That is a good use of time, taking that would and gluing it to the extra ash body you have laying around is quick enough. I would say this is similar to gluing up neck blanks as well.

But shaping the body blank and the neck blank are a couple of the most time intensive parts of a guitar build. Its one thing gluing up extra body blanks when you have wood already cut, its another to spend the hours shaping spec basses when you have a huge wait list, especially when you consider how much is done by hand on Foderas.

As everybody agrees, the few essence basses that Fodera will put our aren't the root of their "problems" but it doesn't make it any more palpable to the customers.
 
#139
Shovelbone said:
I wonder how long it would take to get a Fodera t-shirt?
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Can't tell you how long for a shirt but I can tell you how long it takes to get a replacement onboard preamp when yours goes out...2 months! Craziness!

I purchased my Fodera as "certified used" earlier this year. I too, am way to impatient for a 2 year wait. So, I went this route. It took them over 2 weeks to send it to me from the time I ordered it. Ok, they are busy so it took them a while. They wanted to set it up and put on the strings I wanted. No real big deal.

Get the bass, the setup was good, but not great. Had to tweak it a little. Again not a major deal but when you are paying almost $6K for a used instrument. You may expect more.

So, after having it a month. The output level on the bridge pickup drops tremendously. I call, leave message, no response. I call again. Get the receptionist..."Joey will call you back"...again. No response. I call again...I get "Joey says to make sure your pickup height is adjusted correctly" My response...I am not an idiot, I know how to adjust the pickup height and it is the same as when it came from you!

Frustrated, I take it to my local store that is a Fodera dealer. They finally get Joey on the phone. They figure out it is the blend pot. Since it is all integrated, they have to replace the preamp. 2 months later, they finally ship the pre. Jim at Atlanta Bass Gallery had the pre installed and back to me the same day he received it. Of course, it took Fodera 2 months to ship it.

Right now, I am not impressed with their customer service or lack thereof but it is still a great bass. I just hope I never have any other issues with it. If I do, I will probably get it fixed and sell it. A hassle I do not want to deal with.
 
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