Source audio bass envelope pro, can make it a fawnky as you want, 6 times over! Does take up a whole lot of real estate though
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Fonkiest Filter
- Thread starter J Posega
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I'd ignore the fact it's digital - the Fwonkbeta is also digital and sounds analog AF!
Love the Iron ether xerograph deluxe in envelope mode. Very funky!
Also the Iron Ether Xerograph is digital. But I have to tell you that I have had my share of envelope filters (DOD 440, DOD FX25B, Electro-harmonix Q-TRON big box, Maxon AF-9, MXR BEF) and the one that stayed is my Source Audio Bass Envelope Filter Pro. It just sounds right and can do many things. I love it. I just don't love its size. That's why I plan to get me a Spectrum because I know how the SA filters sound and this one is an updated and improved version of all that were made up until now. Just check this video from Basstheworld.com.
I've yet to hear anything that would interest me more than my original Seamoon Funk Machine.
That video sho do be soundin like a lot of super slippity-sloppity goopity globity fonkity stankity nasty FONK!!!!
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Source Audio Spectrum or C4. Super versatile, and as nasty as you want to make it.
You can get all these sounds with the C4 (and much, much more...) but I think the simpler platform of the Spectrum will allow to focus on just the envelope stuff and get you where you want much easier.
I think for me, the C4 would stop me dead in my tracks with the amount of options/tweakability. I wouldn't be looking for synth as much as bubbly fonk.
If you can find one the MULTIVOX Spitwah is fantastic.
I also love the Maxon AF-9 but you need to feed it the right input. I use a compressor in front of it and it’s perfect.
I also love the Maxon AF-9 but you need to feed it the right input. I use a compressor in front of it and it’s perfect.
I had to revisit the DiscumBOBulator v2 demos to see if there was anything I missed. To me, the v2 still sounds like the v1, but just happens to have a Boost function, which doesn't seem to make the envelope filter any "ruder," IMO. It's still not getting into that original Mu-Tron III territory. I had a "BOB" v1, and without a doubt, it's a great filter, but A/B'ed with my Q-Balls - it just can't hang.
Now, as far as pairing it with dirt...I use my envelope filters almost exclusively by themselves - no stacking. Even with my Q-Balls, I have yet to use the built-in distortion in any of my recordings (even though it's a nice, synthy combo!). For me, an envelope filter HAS to bring the nastiness on its own, and the EMMA v1 just didn't bring it for me. I'm sure I'll get around to trying the v2 someday, though. All of this is IMO, IME, YMMV, etc.
Oh, and I must add the Moogerfooger Low Pass filter and the WMD Fatman to my previous list of original Mu-Tron III, EHX Q-Balls, Onkart Gromt Funky Fellow, and Chunk Systems Agent 00Funk Mark II.
EDIT: And the Iron Ether Xerograph.
EDIT: And the Iron Ether Xerograph.
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Oh, that's right...I had one of those, too! It might be the best of the virtually unknown filters. VERY close to the original Mu-Tron III.
My vote goes to the MF-101.
Does it require a bypass option/looper on a modern board? - Yes
Oversized? - Yup
Funky power requirements? - You bet
But if you want a filter so chunky and wet that it feels like you stepped in beef stew then look no further.
The drive circuitry adds a warmth and girth that I haven’t heard from another pedal. You’re limited to 4 parameters + drive but within those constrains lies a lot of creativity. It is very musical in it’s own right and you’re best to treat it like it’s own instrument.
As any Moog enthusiast will attest, Moogerfoogers are greater than the sum of their parts. Not only can you route the envelope out to the controls on the face of the unit using the CV I/Os but you can hook them up to other Foogers.
I run a Moog MF-103 phaser I as well on my board. Sometimes I’ll run the envelope out on the 101 to the Rate control on the 103. Filter intensity controlled speed? Supremely musical and thick.
IMHO the 101 is the king of what you describe, but you have to buy into the environment and be willing to base your board and sound around it. The commitment is as burdensome as it is rewarding
The Mu-tron will do plenty of what the 101 does in it’s own way (downsides included) but there is no larger Mu-tron environment to explore - it is here the Moog is crowned.
Does it require a bypass option/looper on a modern board? - Yes
Oversized? - Yup
Funky power requirements? - You bet
But if you want a filter so chunky and wet that it feels like you stepped in beef stew then look no further.
The drive circuitry adds a warmth and girth that I haven’t heard from another pedal. You’re limited to 4 parameters + drive but within those constrains lies a lot of creativity. It is very musical in it’s own right and you’re best to treat it like it’s own instrument.
As any Moog enthusiast will attest, Moogerfoogers are greater than the sum of their parts. Not only can you route the envelope out to the controls on the face of the unit using the CV I/Os but you can hook them up to other Foogers.
I run a Moog MF-103 phaser I as well on my board. Sometimes I’ll run the envelope out on the 101 to the Rate control on the 103. Filter intensity controlled speed? Supremely musical and thick.
IMHO the 101 is the king of what you describe, but you have to buy into the environment and be willing to base your board and sound around it. The commitment is as burdensome as it is rewarding
The Mu-tron will do plenty of what the 101 does in it’s own way (downsides included) but there is no larger Mu-tron environment to explore - it is here the Moog is crowned.
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Ok, I'll be 'that' guy:
While some are better than others, the biggest attribute is the feel,construction, and note values of the bass line itself regardless if which one you use, even inexpensive ones......
While some are better than others, the biggest attribute is the feel,construction, and note values of the bass line itself regardless if which one you use, even inexpensive ones......
For LFO/modulation, I vote for the Source Audio Bass Envelope Filter Pro. The range of sounds is unreal, especially since I got mine for for an insane $75 SHIPPED!!! I also like its envelope filter, but it has trouble reacting consistently after overlapping notes or chords are played, IME.
Yes, I know I'm going on and on about this subject, but after all - I am FILTERFUNK!!!
Yes, I know I'm going on and on about this subject, but after all - I am FILTERFUNK!!!
Yeah that boost control is just a clean boost after the filter and has no effect on the sound. Strangely enough, I thought the Q-Balls and Mutron were mild in comparison! To get the top end grit I wanted from those I had to crank the resonance which just resulted in whistling laser type noises, but the Emma has some inherent filth like the Fwonkbeta and the old school Mutrons.
Interesting...different ears, different rigs, different tastes, etc.
