It is all done via MIDI, so you just need a compatible computer MIDI interface (both in and out). I actually find the system pretty easy and it works well (I was skeptical when I picked mine up).
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Thank you! Is there a MIDI interface that is preferable? I understand how midi works but I've never actually done anything with it so I'm an absolute noob.
I'm using an ancient M-Audio Midi Sport Uno - works like a champ for programming. Control on my board is via Source Audio Soleman.
The midi stuff isn't difficult. Takes a slight bit a logic to think things through... lots of help here and on youtube.
Morningstar and Source Audio have good video on how to program their midi controllers. Each midi device will have a 'midi map'. The map tells you what command triggers what function. Like Patch Select and device engage, disengage. Each controller will have it's own PC/Mac based editor that lets you setup a midi command message. The messages are generally PC (Program Control) or CC (Command Control) messages.
The logic is ... thinking holistically about your pedal board. For a given sound (aka patch) which pedals or loops are required to be on and which must be off ? In example, when I create a patch for the FI, I also turn off my C4. That way I don't overlay Gary Wright's 'My Love is Alive' on the FI over Herbie's 'Chameleon' on my C4... In reality, it is thinking through the patch and assembling all the map elements (generally PC or CC commands) to accomplish what you would do bending over and changing each pedal manually and assigning those actions to a patch.
I hope that was helpful... I'm honestly about 1 step ahead of you on the midi curve. As I was writing this I was thinking maybe a virtual midi meetup would be cool. Just like a GTG but via Meetup or Zoom...
I'm taking that to off topic to see what interest there might be in an intro to midi programming might be. Enough and I'll bet SA or another vendor would be willing to donate an expert...
The midi stuff isn't difficult. Takes a slight bit a logic to think things through... lots of help here and on youtube.
Morningstar and Source Audio have good video on how to program their midi controllers. Each midi device will have a 'midi map'. The map tells you what command triggers what function. Like Patch Select and device engage, disengage. Each controller will have it's own PC/Mac based editor that lets you setup a midi command message. The messages are generally PC (Program Control) or CC (Command Control) messages.
The logic is ... thinking holistically about your pedal board. For a given sound (aka patch) which pedals or loops are required to be on and which must be off ? In example, when I create a patch for the FI, I also turn off my C4. That way I don't overlay Gary Wright's 'My Love is Alive' on the FI over Herbie's 'Chameleon' on my C4... In reality, it is thinking through the patch and assembling all the map elements (generally PC or CC commands) to accomplish what you would do bending over and changing each pedal manually and assigning those actions to a patch.
I hope that was helpful... I'm honestly about 1 step ahead of you on the midi curve. As I was writing this I was thinking maybe a virtual midi meetup would be cool. Just like a GTG but via Meetup or Zoom...
I'm taking that to off topic to see what interest there might be in an intro to midi programming might be. Enough and I'll bet SA or another vendor would be willing to donate an expert...
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The Roland UM-One MK2 is popular in this thread as it’s a cheap option that is known to work well (not all MIDI interfaces work as well apparently). I’ve been using my Steinberg UR44 and it works perfectly. There is a list somewhere of tested known MIDI interfaces that work (maybe the manual?). Once you have that part and your computer recognizes the MIDI controller then you just need the FI app and the MIDI controller should show up in the menu to select. Check out the manual, it’s pretty well written and clear.
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Yes, editing is best done via computer for complete control. I use and always recommend using a Roland UM-One Mk2 MIDI-to-USB interface. This is one of the pedals I’ll take to the grave, I’m sure you won’t regret getting one.
If you do any recording, most usb or FireWire interfaces have a midi in and out of the back. Mine is a presonus fire project and works well. Once you get the swing of it it's super easy. The firmware took me a few minutes to figure out as the website instructions are different than the manual. Use the manual instructions
+1 to the Midi Sport Uno, but I'm controlling my board via iPad with ForScore and Midipad2.
Also +1 to resources on the net/Youtube, but I also was able to call in some advice from a friend who is an absolute synth wizard (4 keyboards in his rig, and he also architected a MIDI setup for his entire band).
MIDI is definitely intimidating at first, but once it clicks, it's a super handy tool. I've got my board dialed in so that I don't even really have to mess with the actual board. And when I sit in with my synth wizard friend's band, I just get a MIDI patch from him and their automated setup controls my board.
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Went to pull the trigger and PayPal apparently wants to charge 18.00 more than the exchange rate so that’s a no-go for me. Not sure where the disconnect is but the US to EUR rate for 299.00 EUR should be 361.00 not 379.00.
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$18 more than which exchange rate? PayPal’s own rate or another source? PayPal charges its own rates and these differ from the rates of the likes of XE.com, etc.. Also, depending on where you’re sending from, PayPal can charge an additional currency conversion fee which is a percentage of the converted amount. It should be clear when doing the conversion though. You usually get a better rate when converting money that is already in your PayPal balance rather than paying a foreign amounts and having PayPal bill it to your bank account/card.
Yeah there is no breakdown of the rate other than their rate being lower than it should be. They don’t state any other fees so maybe the rate is lower to cover their fees? In either case it bummed me out. Maybe I’ll try adding cash to my account and seeing what kind of rate I get with it.
Tech 21 in nyc was selling them recently. You should message them
And see when they'll get more in
And see when they'll get more in
I'll second that. If I was told I could only have one pedal off my board; it would be the FI. I bought a second signed one when v3 came out as a back-up. I have the Roland interface and the older EMU too, both work well.
The v3 editor gives you amazing options for sound creation.
PayPal charges a currency exchange fee by building it into their unfavorable rate, it looked like around 3% last I used it. In your case that looks like 4.7% or so, which does seem off somehow. Maybe try on a day when the rate is more favorable?
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Just pulled the trigger on one. The exchange rate is on the low side right now. I think I was looking closer at 400.00 last time I went to check so it's better than it was at least.
Anyone having issues with their FI in the loop of an HX Stomp ? my C4 is behaving well, ths FI seems to go into some kind of internal feedback or oscillation... I had the two on separate loops, I'm going to try them in the same loop next.
I have exactly that, C4 and FI on seperate loops of the Stomp. Ive had no issues so far, certainly not not what you are describing.
Good to know. I swapped loops and the FI is behaving but the C4 is not. Wondering about my cable.
Tip is left out, ring is right out ? Grounds are tied to sleeve ? I think ?
