Future Impact now available!! WAS: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

[Ghost_Bass_PT]

@lokki

How's the switching on the FI I? How do you do if you want to go, lets say, from patch #25 to patch #23?

Hey @lokki, sorry to repeat myself but you might have missed this question, could you clarify this for me please?

 

[ProfFrink]

I'd wager that the creator of the pedal enjoys monetary income. The FI doesn't use any rare or hard to source components. There isn't any reason why they can't make as many as the market demands.

Right, but he may also enjoy going down in history as producing the most sought after and rare pedal ever made

 

[Adamixoye]

Right, but he may also enjoy going down in history as producing the most sought after and rare pedal ever made

TWICE?

 

[Adamixoye]

Hey @lokki, sorry to repeat myself but you might have missed this question, could you clarify this for me please?

It's going to respond to MIDI PC commands. If you watch the demo video it looks like if you don't use MIDI the footswitches will scroll up through presets. So I'm not sure if there is going to be a convenient non-MIDI way to go down in presets.

 

[Dark Barn]

Hey @lokki, sorry to repeat myself but you might have missed this question, could you clarify this for me please?

In the video it looks like you scroll up through presets with the left switch, then confirm/enter with the right switch.

 

[Dark Barn]

Maybe long press with one of the switches will put you in scroll down mode.

 

[Adamixoye]

Maybe long press with one of the switches will put you in scroll down mode.

Now that you mention that I recall there was some discussion of something along those lines, I don't remember what the final decision was (if it was announced).

 

[Ghost_Bass_PT]

Now that you mention that I recall there was some discussion of something along those lines, I don't remember what the final decision was (if it was announced).

Yep, i raised that question early on this thread and Andras answered that he might implement some switching options depending on the way you press the footswitch. Now that the pedal is in the prodiction line i would like to know how it operates.

I'm not interested in midi controlers for live use, pedalboard realestate is a big factor, i want a set of patches with awesome sounds that i can scroll easily through them and choose the one i want for each song (or more than one in the same song). I'm a "set and forget" pedal user. If there's only the scroll up option then i would prefer to have only 9 patches like the original ADI, or at least a jack to connect an external switch pedal (single micro pedal, not a pedalboard ) for scrolling down.

 

[Swordsman3311]

Yep, i raised that question early on this thread and Andras answered that he might implement some switching options depending on the way you press the footswitch. Now that the pedal is in the prodiction line i would like to know how it operates.

I'm not interested in midi controlers for live use, pedalboard realestate is a big factor, i want a set of patches with awesome sounds that i can scroll easily through them and choose the one i want for each song (or more than one in the same song). I'm a "set and forget" pedal user. If there's only the scroll up option then i would prefer to have only 9 patches like the original ADI, or at least a jack to connect an external switch pedal (single micro pedal, not a pedalboard ) for scrolling down.

Yes, this is something the original ADI has if I'm not mistaken. I guess something along the lines of the Molten Voltage One Trick Pony for the Bass Whammy can be done with the MIDI in on the FI.

 

[Adamixoye]

Yes, this is something the original ADI has if I'm not mistaken.

This pedal is smaller and I don't think we've seen an image of the rear panel, though.

 

[Swordsman3311]

This pedal is smaller and I don't think we've seen an image of the rear panel, though.

We actually have (at least for the prototype), with the first pictures we received in this thread. Let me go look for them
EDIT: You can get a peak at the top here: Future Impact I.
EDIT2: Here you go, much earlier in this thread: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

 

[Adamixoye]

We actually have (at least for the prototype), with the first pictures we received in this thread. Let me go look for them
EDIT: You can get a peak at the top here: Future Impact I.

I don't remember a clear shot of the panel, yes you get a sneak peak of it on that page, but it doesn't show you everything. If I had to guess, you've got Input, Power, MIDI In, MIDI Out, and Output, and that's all the room there is.

 

[Ghost_Bass_PT]

ok, here is an update/clarification on the switch functionality from the dev:

I see a lot of discussion appeared about the switch functionality. Of course, I will follow basically the SB1 functionality, but extending it wherever it makes sense. The lack of the patch down functionality is a drawback of the original design, therefore I planned to solve that, but without an extra switch that would require enlarging the case by a lot. There were two ideas for this function in the list:

1.Pressing both switches at the same time;

2.Keeping the switch for longer time.


First, let me remind people how the original SB1 works:

In normal state the right switch is ON/OFF (Effect/Bypass). If you press Program Up then the PROG.NO will be increased by one, and it starts to blink. As long as it blinks nothing will change on the sound, you can increase multiple steps, “preparing” for the next sound. The sound is activated only when you hit the right pedal, which will not switch between ON/OFF this time, just activate the new sound and stay ON.

Therefore, (1.) is in contradiction with this functionality, and anyway that would be very tough to press two switches at once.


My plan is that the Future Impact will have three different modes, one is the original functionality of the SB1, and two extended modes. You can reprogram your device between these either with a SYSEX command, or with a special boot option when turning on the FI. Of course, selecting once one of these three modes the FI will always remember your choice.


1.SB1 functionality

2.SB1 functionality, extended with the following: If you want to move up the Program No. by a lot, press down the left pedal and keep it. After a while it will start to scroll quickly. When you reached the required number just release it, and press the right pedal. A quick double step (like double click with a mouse) will step down by one. If you perform a double step and keep the pedal at the second step, it starts to scroll down quickly. When you reached the required number just release it, and press the right pedal.

3.SB1 functionality, extended with the following: If you want to move up the Program No. by a lot, press down the left pedal and keep it. After a while it will start to scroll quickly. When you reached the required number just release it, and press the right pedal. A quick double step (like double click with a mouse) will change the direction of the pedal, and immediately perform a step down. At the same time the decimal point of the BANK NO. will light up, indicating that the pedal direction is DOWN. From this point on the pedal will always perform step down, until you change the direction again. Scrolling is possible either in UP or in DOWN mode. When you reached the required number just release it, and press the right pedal.

Here's the reply lokki gave me on March, i just want to know if this system is implemented.

 

[Swordsman3311]

I don't remember a clear shot of the panel, yes you get a sneak peak of it on that page, but it doesn't show you everything. If I had to guess, you've got Input, Power, MIDI In, MIDI Out, and Output, and that's all the room there is.

Found it, just edited my post above.
Those were shots of the prototype I believe, but I don't think much has changed, @lokki, @Andras Szalay?

 

[Adamixoye]

We actually have (at least for the prototype), with the first pictures we received in this thread. Let me go look for them
EDIT: You can get a peak at the top here: Future Impact I.
EDIT2: Here you go, much earlier in this thread: deep impact reissue!!! interested?

I don't remember a clear shot of the panel, yes you get a sneak peak of it on that page, but it doesn't show you everything. If I had to guess, you've got Input, Power, MIDI In, MIDI Out, and Output, and that's all the room there is.

Found it, just edited my post above.
Those were shots of the prototype I believe, but I don't think much has changed, @lokki, @Andras Szalay?

There you go, I stand corrected (though my guess on the connections was right!). Good work.

 

[J Posega]

Okay, COMPLETELY SERIOUS TL;DR post for all the n00bz:

• The website for this product is:
  • Future Impact I.
• There is a Facebook page
  • Future Impact
• Website says available January 2016, a post on the Facebook page says shipping before Christmas
• There has been no concrete information about when/how to order
  
• Sound clips:
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• Dimensions are 155mm x 125mm, per this post:
  • deep impact reissue!!! interested?
• Pricing info is not listed on the website or Facebook but was posted here:
  • deep impact reissue!!! interested?
• Talk of a "list" on this thread refers to this:
  • deep impact reissue!!! interested?
  • This list was ALWAYS unofficial, and was only started as a way to show Andras how many people were interested. Your presence or lack thereof on the list means nothing with regard to actually ordering a unit. (Although PERHAPS an exception will be made for the list creator? )

Ah, well eff me. I had previously only watched the first YT vid that compared the DI to FI, and said, "Naw, there's nothing there I want."

But then I went and listened to @Lippi 's sounds clips. Eff me sideways, now I get it. This is bad news guys... Say, has anyone ever mounted a set of pitch/ modulation wheels from a synth on a bass guitar? I've got my old Ikea Gorm board lying around unused... just needs a foot controller with X and Y control, and then something to switch patches/ presets. I bet that board I've got is the perfect size for the DI and a controller.

And wait a minute, you're saying I could run my MIDI foot pedals (ala Moog Taurus but made with arcade buttons) into this thing and use it as the synth tone generator?

Don't ANYONE tell me this can sound close to a Mini MOOG, because then I'll be joining every official, unofficial list I can find.

 

[BigBeatNut]

I'm a "set and forget" pedal user. If there's only the scroll up option then i would prefer to have only 9 patches like the original ADI, ....

Given the pedal has a knob labelled 'bank' it wouldn't surprise me at all to find it was all arranged in banks of 10. I've no way of knowing if that's right though.

 

[lokki]

Given the pedal has a knob labelled 'bank' it wouldn't surprise me at all to find it was all arranged in banks of 10. I've no way of knowing if that's right though.

ok, let me answer a couple of those questions.

the sounds are organised in banks of 10.

about the switching of presets, here is an excerpt from the manual:

The FI has 99 sounds distributed into 10 banks (bank 0 has 9 sounds, all others 10). You can step up through the banks by pressing the EDIT/BANK UP dial that is a pushbutton switch as well. Also, if you press down EDIT/BANK UP and turn the dial, you can quickly reach any bank.

You can select from the sounds within a bank with the PROGRAM footswitch. It will increment the program number, but the LEDs start to blink and the sound does not change yet. Press the ON/OFF footswitch to enable the selected sound. If you quickly double-step on PROGRAM you can also decrement the program number.



DEFAULT Mode or DIRECT Mode: Press the left footswitch while you power on. “00” will appear. Press the left footswitch again. “1” will appear on the left digit. The right digit will be either “0” (DEFAULT) or “1” (DIRECT). You can change between these with the edit dial. DEFAULT Mode is as described in “Operating FI”. In DIRECT Mode you get a program change immediately when you hit the PROGRAM button. Single step will increase the program number, double-step will decrease it. If you keep the PROGRAM button pressed, the number will start to scroll up, first slowly, then faster. If you keep it down after a double-step, it will scroll down. In DIRECT Mode program increment-decrement will step over the bank borders, you can access quickly any of the 99 programs.

that means if you are in bank number 2 (sounds from 20 to 29) you stay in that bank and if you increment past 29 you go back to 20 (in default mode)

also any of the programs can be activated directly via midi-program change.

connections:

on the rear you have audio in, midi in midi out, output jack and power connector (standard boss type 9v)

 

[mikeswals]

And wait a minute, you're saying I could run my MIDI foot pedals (ala Moog Taurus but made with arcade buttons) into this thing and use it as the synth tone generator?

Yes, you're supposed to be able to use it as a tone generator.

Don't ANYONE tell me this can sound close to a Mini MOOG, because then I'll be joining every official, unofficial list I can find.

I'm hoping it gets as close as possible to sounding like one. Based on the vids so far, this blows anything else I've owned out of the water especially the Markbass (I've never owned a DI though).

 

[lokki]

Yes, you're supposed to be able to use it as a tone generator.



I'm hoping it gets as close as possible to sounding like one. Based on the vids so far, this blows anything else I've owned out of the water especially the Markbass (I've never owned a DI though).

this thing can sound like a moog i think. it can also sound like a ms-20