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Fuzzrocious LunaReclipse

I just pre-ordered. It's going on my small board as a general purpose overdrive. I like that is is versatile but still has lots of character. (It's funny how Ryan's distortion pedals seem to have a signature sound.) About the jack placement: I've run into problems with the power jack on the side with side input jacks. They seem to get in the way of neighboring pedals with a similar arrangement. They don't stack tightly. Not a complaint. It just goes to show you that no matter what you choose for layout, it's going to present problems for someone. That's why we call it pedalboard tetris!
 
I am stoked to get one for myself. I have been very vocal about my love for the Feed Me and I think the LunaReclipse will pair hella nicely.

I asked Ryan to hold me one for when I meet him in October. For me this will be used as a dirty boost or dirty limiter to help level out my basses before doing unholy things to my tone.

Whether or not this was his intention what I get from Fuzzrocious's latest offerings is that he's giving you a la carte options to build the ultimate drive pedal. It's so hard to pick the necessary trade offs when building something so why not compartmentalize and specialize. Wanna sound like a gritty vintage Bassman? Get a LunaReclipse and a Feed Me. Wanna sound like an SVT? Get a Demon and a Baxstabber. Wanna sound like hell on earth? Get two Blast Furnaces, a Moth, and a Heliotropic.
 
I am stoked to get one for myself. I have been very vocal about my love for the Feed Me and I think the LunaReclipse will pair hella nicely.

I asked Ryan to hold me one for when I meet him in October. For me this will be used as a dirty boost or dirty limiter to help level out my basses before doing unholy things to my tone.

Whether or not this was his intention what I get from Fuzzrocious's latest offerings is that he's giving you a la carte options to build the ultimate drive pedal. It's so hard to pick the necessary trade offs when building something so why not compartmentalize and specialize. Wanna sound like a gritty vintage Bassman? Get a LunaReclipse and a Feed Me. Wanna sound like an SVT? Get a Demon and a Baxstabber. Wanna sound like hell on earth? Get two Blast Furnaces, a Moth, and a Heliotropic.
Just need a Fuzzrocious ABY/loop pedal with kid paint to make it official
 
this looks like an amazing concept and I thank Fuzzrocious for executing it. My only question is how is the low end? On the videos above it seems like the bottom drops out when engaged. But this could be my speakers and what not.
The bottom doesn't drop out so much as that it adds treble and midrange content.
 
I didn't vote, but had I voted, if there was a "Who gives a rat's ass" choice, that's what I would have voted for. Hard to believe that it matters so much to some people, but hey, whatever.
While it's not a dealkiller for me, I do prefer top mounted jacks as it's a space saver on my pedalboard. Most of my pedals don't have them, though.

Yeah but I paid for the whole pedal and it's not meeting my needs. I think it's worth letting people know buyer beware, it seems like the Baxstabber is more about shaping dirt, and maybe more of a guitar pedal, than a full fledged bass EQ circuit.
The company is literally named Fuzzrocious. Of course their products are geared towards dirt.

Also, there are a ton of settings on most of my amps and pedals that I don't find useful. Doesn't mean I want my money back.

So, I guess I'll ask this...
Are side jacks the only reason why people are not buying lunaReclipse?
I doubt it.

There might be a few people who simply won't consider anything with side jacks, but I would hope most people are less nitpicky than that, especially about something that already has a very small footprint.

I'm just broke right now and there are too many different cool effects I want.
 
The company is literally named Fuzzrocious. Of course their products are geared towards dirt.

Also, there are a ton of settings on most of my amps and pedals that I don't find useful. Doesn't mean I want my money back.
I don't want to keep beating this, but I feel obliged to respond to this kind of comment now, after hearing a number of "lots of things don't work for me, just flip it" kind of response.

I do not feel that my issues with this pedal are a matter of mere taste. This is an EQ, and what I am finding is that a significant number of the settings on it do not have the headroom to handle a *passive Jazz bass* without distorting on the low notes. To me this is more than just "it's not to may taste". I feel it is a fundamental failing of the product. I feel that is not an unreasonable thing to think.

If it was a distortion or fuzz pedal, alright then. But it's not, and it is clearly and explicitly described as NOT being a dirt pedal in its own description on the website and in the manual. It is a Baxandall active EQ circuit. As such, I feel like it should be able to tolerate a more input gain without distorting on any of the darker, and to me, more useful settings.

Also, I always post my findings with pedals here on Talkbass. When the Barbershop didn't work for me, I posted that - it didn't get clean enough for me. In that instance, however, I do not feel that was a fundamental issue with the pedal; in that case it just wasn't to my taste. It was a dirt box, and I didn't like the dirt it produced.

But none of my posts on how the Barbershop didn't work for me ever got any sort of defensive response from anybody. This experience has been entirely different. I feel like the Ryan/Fuzzrocious fanboy set is getting a bit too worked up over what I feel is a legitimate concern of mine. Let's face it: you are not going to convince me that I am wrong in my feelings, after 35 years of playing electric bass and countless amps, pedals, and basses I've owned, I am confident in my appraisal that out of the box this pedal was not up to snuff. Also, as much as might displease you fanboys, there might be another TBer who could benefit from my experience.

Now Ryan has been helpful, and I have yet to crack the pedal open and mess with the internal trim knob. I did some recording with it last night and I know what settings I *want* to work, I know what tones I like, they just distort in an unpleasant way from the low G down through the low E. With the pedal dialed in, I can work with the trim knob to see if it will help. It is an input gain issue as I can turn the volume of the pedal down well below unity and the distortion is still there. Hopefully the trim drops the input level, and I can make up the gain with the circuit's output, and all will be well with the universe. The manual itself does not mention the internal trim knob. I also asked about running it at a higher voltage; turns out that voids the warranty and the pedal isn't really meant to run at higher than 9 V, although Ryan did say I could try 12. I will try the trimpot first and see how it goes.

But the insistence that an active EQ that distorts on over half the settings, with a passive Jazz bass running into it, no matter what I set the volume knob on the EQ to, is somehow just an issue of taste is preposterous. It really is. I don't want to post on this anymore, but if people keep attacking me and my judgement, I will keep defending. Trust me on that.
 
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I don't want to keep beating this, but I feel obliged to respond to this kind of comment now, after hearing a number of "lots of things don't work for me, just flip it" kind of response.

I do not feel that my issues with this pedal are a matter of mere taste. This is an EQ, and what I am finding is that a significant number of the settings on it do not have the headroom to handle a *passive Jazz bass* without distorting on the low notes. To me this is more than just "it's not to may taste". I feel it is a fundamental failing of the product. I feel that is not an unreasonable thing to think.

If it was a distortion or fuzz pedal, alright then. But it's not, and it is clearly and explicitly described as NOT being a dirt pedal in its own description on the website and in the manual. It is a Baxandall active EQ circuit. As such, I feel like it should be able to tolerate a more input gain without distorting on any of the darker, and to me, more useful settings.

Also, I always post my findings with pedals here on Talkbass. When the Barbershop didn't work for me, I posted that - it didn't get clean enough for me. In that instance, however, I do not feel that was a fundamental issue with the pedal; in that case it just wasn't to my taste. It was a dirt box, and I didn't like the dirt it produced.

But none of my posts on how the Barbershop didn't work for me ever got any sort of defensive response from anybody. This experience has been entirely different. I feel like the Ryan/Fuzzrocious fanboy set is getting a bit too worked up over what I feel is a legitimate concern of mine. Let's face it: you are not going to convince me that I am wrong in my feelings, after 35 years of playing electric bass and countless amps, pedals, and basses I've owned, I am confident in my appraisal that out of the box this pedal was not up to snuff. Also, as much as might displease you fanboys, there might be another TBer who could benefit from my experience.

Now Ryan has been helpful, and I have yet to crack the pedal open and mess with the internal trim knob. I did some recording with it last night and I know what settings I *want* to work, I know what tones I like, they just distort in an unpleasant way from the low G down through the low E. With the pedal dialed in, I can work with the trim knob to see if it will help. It is an input gain issue as I can turn the volume of the pedal down well below unity and the distortion is still there. Hopefully the trim drops the input level, and I can make up the gain with the circuit's output, and all will be well with the universe. The manual itself does not mention the internal trim knob. I also asked about running it at a higher voltage; turns out that voids the warranty and the pedal isn't really meant to run at higher than 9 V, although Ryan did say I could try 12. I will try the trimpot first and see how it goes.

But the insistence that an active EQ that distorts on over half the settings, with a passive Jazz bass running into it, no matter what I set the volume knob on the EQ to, is somehow just an issue of taste is preposterous. It really is. I don't want to post on this anymore, but if people keep attacking me and my judgement, I will keep defending. Trust me on that.

not a fan boy here, but does seem you are judging the product on your one bass? sadly ryan will im sure have done testing on a number of basses to make sure it works, my jazz has really hot nordstrand pickups which have a very high output, also have you tried direct into a daw through a dif amp?
 
And what rig do you use? That make a hell of a difference. As I stated the MOTH and my rumble 500 do not get along, yuck. But through my PF800 it's golden. Same with basses, all but the talman I have sound great though the feed me. It's a different beast and as stated not a traditional eq, get a boss for that.
What settings do you use for your amp?
Kinda the reason you're getting slagged is that this is for the Luna, not your situation. Post a separate post and folks would be a bit more objective. Just a thought. And stating in the original post about wanting your money back...that's for private email not a different pedal thread.
 
Highly suggested that we talk about the lunaReclipse here and the Baxstabber in the Fuzzrocious thread, a separate Baxstabber thread, and/or privately over email. We could definitely explore other options to open the headroom up for you @HolmeBass.

A-freakin-men. I honestly don't care a wit about whether someone likes a pedal or not. I'm perfectly capable of analyzing and judging for myself what will and won't work in my set-up. My issue with this particular guy is that he keeps saying how he doesn't want to start a complaint thread and how he doesn't want to keep talking about it but then does just that anyway...in a thread dedicated to the LunaReclipse. By all means, the dude could start his own thread to save the masses from the horrors of the Baxstabber rather than continuing his complaints here.
 
Just a quick word of support for @HolmeBass

The dude has tried tons and tons and tons of pedals. He doesn't fly off the handle and talk crap about people. He's not trying to spam the thread but brought up a very fair concern about a product that isn't working as it should.

Sorry but if a product clips on a passive jazz bass, then it's going to clip on a ton of other basses.

And the Baxstabber is an EQ. It shouldn't be distorting as he is experiencing.

So lay off guys.
 
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Everyone has valid points and I am open to talking about all of them publicly or privately. Let's just stick to the topic so future readers of the thread and participants can get the info they want/need.

We haven't experienced clipping on the Bax, but I am open to looking into solutions to open up headroom. If the trim suggestion doesn't work, we can move on from there.

We're all here to talk gear...let's just all be nice to one another :). Way too much bad stuff happening in the world to argue about pedals.
 
not a fan boy here, but does seem you are judging the product on your one bass? sadly ryan will im sure have done testing on a number of basses to make sure it works, my jazz has really hot nordstrand pickups which have a very high output, also have you tried direct into a daw through a dif amp?
First, thanks to @Mosfed for the support, and to @rratajski for continuing to work with me and look for solutions.

Well, yes, I am judging the product on my expectations and my use case. I really have no other perspective from which to judge it. It seems to me like a somewhat vanilla use case, too. It's not like I'm running some G&L or MTD or other notoriously hot bass into it.

I have recorded this bass direct into various DAWs in the past, or rather, paid others to record me, as part of a project. I have not ever had any issues with people saying this jazz was particularly hot or mentioning a need to pad my input back.

The bass has Lindy Fralin pickups from 1998, to my understanding they were wound exactly to 1964 jazz bass pickup specs, but with Lindy's special sauce of adjusting the camber of the windings as he goes to increase high end clarity. The bridge was replaced with a stock Fender bent plate bridge, a low-mass bridge. It's a 1977 jazz with a 3-bolt neck. No other mods other than the Fralins and the bridge replacement.

Ryan has already informed me of the internal trim pot, and I just need some time to try it out. Over the weekend I will tweak the trim pot and hopefully it will work. I will try to make a video, but with only a phone it's tough to shoot video and play at the same time. I will also try dropping the pickups just a bit if the trim knob doesn't help, but I really like the tone out of this bass right now, and the balance from bridge to neck is right where I like it, so I don't want to lower the pickups too much.

Did I address the issue/idea you were driving at re: DAW recording, or was there another point re: recording into a DAW that you wanted to look at? I don't want to keep bringing this up in this thread, so please PM me if you (or anyone else) has some constructive ideas on a fix/troubleshooting. Believe me, I want this to work. It sounds great, other than this distortion when I am trying to darken things up with the pedal.
 
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First, thanks to @Mosfed for the support, and to @rratajski for continuing to work with me and look for solutions.

Well, yes, I am judging the product on my expectations and my use case. I really have no other perspective from which to judge it. It seems to me like a somewhat vanilla use case, too. It's not like I'm running some G&L or MTD or other notoriously hot bass into it.

I have recorded this bass direct into various DAWs in the past, or rather, paid others to record me, as part of a project. I have not ever had any issues with people saying this jazz was particularly hot or mentioning a need to pad my input back.

The bass has Lindy Fralin pickups from 1998, to my understanding they were wound exactly to 1964 jazz bass pickup specs, but with Lindy's special sauce of adjusting the camber of the windings as he goes to increase high end clarity. The bridge was replaced with a stock Fender bent plate bridge, a low-mass bridge. It's a 1977 jazz with a 3-bolt neck. No other mods other than the Fralins and the bridge replacement.

Ryan has already informed me of the internal trim pot, and I just need some time to try it out. Over the weekend I will tweak the trim pot and hopefully it will work. I will try to make a video, but with only a phone it's tough to shoot video and play at the same time. I will also try dropping the pickups just a bit if the trim knob doesn't help, but I really like the tone out of this bass right now, and the balance from bridge to neck is right where I like it, so I don't want to lower the pickups too much.

Did I address the issue/idea you were driving at re: DAW recording, or was there another point re: recording into a DAW that you wanted to look at? I don't want to keep bringing this up in this thread, so please PM me if you (or anyone else) has some constructive ideas on a fix/troubleshooting. Believe me, I want this to work. It sounds great, other than this distortion when I am trying to darken things up with the pedal.

As Ryan said let's move on

And pm Ryan to work out a solution