Just checked my Reverb Watch List and it is the 35DC I have in there. The way I have this bass wired now is just a passive Lace Alumibar pickup and a volume control. I like it that way...no tone at all. I'm kind of channeling my inner Timothy B. Schmit, I guess, when he had Carvin build him a jazz bass like that. I still have all of the other three holes available, so I can do anything I want. Here's a pic:
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I like my L2K as is, thank you very much.
Yeah buddy, the DC 35 is what's in my Fallout and in that steinberger I would highly endorse buying paring it with the DC, I think you will be very happy with that combo
Has to be said, G&L managing to acquire an endorsee who has no use for G&L's USP does fit in with their usual two-left-feet approach to life.
LB-100 vs. SB-2?
Hey folks. I have an American ASAT that is my go-to bass for it's character and versitlity. I recently picked up a Tribute fretless Tiloton which has remarkable fit and finish for the price. Tonewise, I wish that the Kiloton pickup was a bit closer to the neck for a bit more P flavor which got me thinking about the LB-100 and SB-2.
Please chime in if you have experience with one, or ideally, both of these basses and let me know which one most captures the super fundamental, deep and resonant P-bass grunt.
Thanks!
Hey folks. I have an American ASAT that is my go-to bass for it's character and versitlity. I recently picked up a Tribute fretless Tiloton which has remarkable fit and finish for the price. Tonewise, I wish that the Kiloton pickup was a bit closer to the neck for a bit more P flavor which got me thinking about the LB-100 and SB-2.
Please chime in if you have experience with one, or ideally, both of these basses and let me know which one most captures the super fundamental, deep and resonant P-bass grunt.
Thanks!
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Do you mean SB1 versus SB2 or do you mean LB100 versus SB2. Hard to tell from your LB1 typo.
I have to agree with you. It's almost like buying a Jag and deciding to replace the engine with some other. Is it still a Jag? Erm... not really, at least in my book. I don't know why G&L would have this guy, either. He's saying hey, MFDs aren't as good as these here. If I was G&L, his ass would be bounced. Although, I could see replacing the single coil pups in a Jazz with something noiseless or hotter or both, but I wouldn't do that if I was endorsing Jazz basses and then brag about it in a public forum.
Has to be said, G&L managing to acquire an endorsee who has no use for G&L's USP does fit in with their usual two-left-feet approach to life.
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I will preface by saying I have not owned an SB1, SB2, or LB100. I have tried them in shops a few times. If it is me, I am probably buying an SB1 (which was not on your list, but I am adding it). LB100 comes in second and SB2 is third. There is a lot of love for the SB2, but PJ has never been my thing. LB100 is classic P bass while the SB1 is MFD P Bass. I really like MFD Pickups. I think it comes down to...
Buy the SB2 if you need versatility (more versatility than a P-Bass that is; it is not going to reach ASAT levels of versatility)
Buy the LB100 if you want a classic P-Bass
Buy the SB1 if you want a P-Bass with a bit more (thanks to the MFD pickup)
On the plus side if you buy the LB100 or SB1 and change you mind on the MFD pickup, you can swap an MFD with a standard P-Bass pickup and vice versa.
Saddle springs on my L-2500 have become rusted... not Custom Shop relicing (that's only F3nd3r)...
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EMG DCs and BTC in an L2500 are understandable as that was the factory-spec'd guts of the original L5500, which the poster you're talking about said was his first G&L. I wouldn't likely put EMGs in an L2500 today, but I get the homage because I wanted an L5500 for years. However, I haven't been too big on the EMG DC's in other basses I've owned.
I gotcha. I keep mine strung throu
Thanks so much for sharing the pics! They made me feel much better.
That's a nice one!
Like mine, it has the reverse mount plateless controls, and also like mine, it appears to have the GL alnico humbucker
instead of an MFD pickup. i was going to chime in to some of the other posts, that the L1k makes a great modern P bass. Especially one with the alnico pickup.
I have both. I also have a L-2000 and at one point had a L-1500 (precursor to the Kiloton).
as @ahadl2500 said, the LB-100 is classic P bass and the SB-2 is "more." The SB-2 split pickup is wider range, so like the ASAT pickup, is very full sounding. Bigger low end than a traditional P, and the highs are more present as well. It's a modern take, for sure. Add the bridge pickup in for more upper mids and treble. Note that they don't have a tone knob, so it's a bit different of an approach. A lot of the tonal magic comes from blending the pickups, not necessarily having either at full volume. They can, of course, be modded to have a tone knob, or the build-to-order US model can be ordered with one. And they don't have a bass roll-off, either, so if you cut the bass on your ASAT a lot, the SB-2 might be a bit much for you.
The LB-100 is much more of a plug-n-play P vibe. Pickup is a little overwound, so it does push the mids out in front a little, though not as much as a L-1500/Kilo, IMO.
Not trying to argue with you or anyone else but changing out pickups or a preamp for a specific brand endorsement is reason to be kicked out of the endorsement? Just on talkbass I've seen countless endorsees change out electronics on basses. A big example I have is Sadowsky. Plus you never know what other subtle changes players/artists make under the hood. It's about the brand recognition and social media exposure to the brand these days and that's on the headstock. Plus custom builders will put in any pickup and preamp that you want and they have endorsees.
Tom Hamilton's ASAT that he plays on stage is modified. The most obvious is the 2 inch screw for his strap. He could have an L2k instead I guess.
Hard to tell. As usual MGR's pics are crap. And also as usual, not a lotta details or decription posted.
I'd like it more if it is CAR, and if it has an ebony board. Again, can't tell from their crap pics and no info there. Price looks pretty good, might be worth a phone call for some info. Not sure I'd want the non-MFD pickup, though. Have to say that it looks nice whatever it is.
Yeah, as an EMG fan I get the DC/BTC attraction. I've had a couple 5500's (the "un-G&L") in the past. For me, that elec combo is the most potent sounding fiver on earth, 34" scale be damned. IMO the BTC dip switches are the secret sauce. Maybe their chunky necks and dense/heavy ash bodies may lend something to their big sound? Dunno, but that weight was too much for this cowboy, had to let them go (sadly).
Dang, he likes what he likes, G&L likes him, what's the problem?
I guess probably my wishlist bass would have the 3-position toggle for single/parallel/series per pickup a la the L1000, a blend control and separate Bass and Treble controls for each pickup. I think probably the way to achieve this would be to feed two separate L1000-ish output signals to a simple preamp that has a blend knob for the two inputs and maybe two separate treble boosts, if one were to get fancy.
I suppose I'm kind of spoiled by my Alembic, where the two pickups are voiced independent of each other and can be fed to separate amps, a la Ric-O-Sound.
So, while I'm complaining about first-world problems that aren't, I think I might love a Kiloton with L1000 tone controls. It would be a MusicMan killer, and I'm not talking the Marge Simpson vs. a monorail kind. Not requiring a battery while retaining some control over bass and treble is a very underrated benefit of these basses, but of course everyone here knows that already.
I wonder what Leo would be designing today if he were still with us.
John
