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G&L Club Part 7

#32,721
pbass2 said:
Knowing you're a GK guy, you may appreciate my chain for this session with the Kiloton 5 was the bass>DI (Tonecraft tube DI) and also my Legacy 500 with the Drive engaged through my GK Neo 1x12. They have a nice B15 there but we went with my GK amp because it felt better for the five string. The Kiloton is something pretty special I think. I use both the single coil setting and parallel about 50/50. I'm really quite surprised how below the radar the Kiloton is, especially the fiver. I would not hesitate to get another so I can have flats and rounds.
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I have experimented a lot recording wise (not much live wise, GK does it for me and I have signed an exclusively deal with them). I'm not a fan of %90 of IRs and I'm actually not the biggest tube guy either (especially live). Ideally (but far from always and its more the exception), bass->my board (commit to compression going in -> REDDI-> pass through to any GK amp with a RE20 nearish to the horn of any 10 or 12.

My new quick and dirty is a lot simpler on a smaller board that fits in a backpack. Same compression-> RNDI-> pass through to never to be named clean preamp pedal DI

Always at least 2 lines in the DAW
 
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Not my bass, not my face, not my photo. But I know the player and the photog. Lefty Interceptor no less!
 

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I just did a gig in an arena, incredibly boomy. I brought one of my M2000s. Played the back pickup all night. It sounded really good.

Has anyone else noticed that the back pickup of the M2000 sounds so much better than the back pickup of the L2000? It's thicker, but not boomy. I don't know how to describe it. The back L2000 pickup sounds weak to me. And when I beef it up, it gets boomy. But the M2000 doesn't seem to do that. It is more centered, somehow.
 
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jfh2424 said:
I just did a gig in an arena, incredibly boomy. I brought one of my M2000s. Played the back pickup all night. It sounded really good.

Has anyone else noticed that the back pickup of the M2000 sounds so much better than the back pickup of the L2000? It's thicker, but not boomy. I don't know how to describe it. The back L2000 pickup sounds weak to me. And when I beef it up, it gets boomy. But the M2000 doesn't seem to do that. It is more centered, somehow.
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I've not experienced an M2000 bridge pickup, but I wouldn't ever classify my L2500 bridge pickup as "weak". I didn't play an arena this weekend, but I did play an outdoor gig in a large park and had to roll off the bass control even with the bridge pickup soloed because the bass response was almost too much. I ran that bass without a neck pickup for several years and often had to roll back the bass control. Interesting.
 
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jfh2424 said:
I just did a gig in an arena, incredibly boomy. I brought one of my M2000s. Played the back pickup all night. It sounded really good.

Has anyone else noticed that the back pickup of the M2000 sounds so much better than the back pickup of the L2000? It's thicker, but not boomy. I don't know how to describe it. The back L2000 pickup sounds weak to me. And when I beef it up, it gets boomy. But the M2000 doesn't seem to do that. It is more centered, somehow.
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I feel the M is slightly more controlled (even flat) and can even be controlled further with the EQ.

My opinion could change, but right now…I'm digging the M more live and the L in the studio.

I hear a little sheen when you engage the preamp (I'm not talking preamp with treble boost, that's not me) with L and with that bass lending itself more to uppermids. It's sound really nice in a recording where I feel you need to take the tone you like and make it brighter (at least for me).

You cats, who play with just the rear pickup….God love ya. I sound like poo when I play like there lol.
 
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I sound like poo on the back pickup too. I usually prefer the front.

But it was just so damn boomy where I was. The sound was just bouncing everywhere. The tight back pickup was the way to go.

Yeah, I understand what you mean concerning the upper mids of the L. That is one of the central differences concerning the native tone of the M and the L. I don't find it easy to dial that out of the L, when I want to. Maybe it's just a lack of experience EQing. But I find it pretty easy to boost the mids on the M to get in the ballpark of the L.

Interesting that you guys seem to get that much lows from the back pickup of the L. Maybe I need to lower mine. Because there's really a big difference in Ms backups compared to my Ls, when soloed. The M really shine there, at least to me.
 
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This is from another thread I posted in, but explains what the Active switch on the L2k does to the EQ. That upper-mid thing in active mode is partially EQ. You can open the attachments to see Bode plots of the preamp circuit's frequency response.

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But the L2k in active mode isn't just purely buffered with no EQ. There is a treble boost in active mode. The "active w/treble boost" engages another resistor to increase the treble boost gain, but regular active mode also has 5dB of treble boost at a lower frequency.

Active: 4.8dB @ 1.4kHz
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Active Treble Boost: 10.7dB @ 3.3kHzView attachment 7260839
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I tried for awhile to get my L2K to sound like other basses, but now I think it sounds like it was intended to sound. There are loads of tonal possibilities just like they say at G&L, and I dig them. That bass really cuts through for me without being overbearing. If I want a J bass sound I'll grab a J bass. You wouldn't grab a hammer to do a screwdriver's job would you?

As far as the back pickup thing, I seldom play it soloed, I prefer both pickups.
 
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RE: the rear pickup thing - my L2500 is fretless. The only places I favor bridge pickups regularly are my fretless basses. That said, the L2500 bridge pickup has gobs more beef than any of my other fretless basses. On my others (including a fantastic Muckelroy), I almost always keep some neck blended in; that's obviously not an option on the L2500, but mine still has more beef soloed than my other basses w/neck blended in.
 
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BruceG68 said:
I have a 2021 Fullerton Deluxe JB and it's at my luthier right now having Dimarzio Relentless J and a push pull series/parallel switch in the neck position.Cant wait to get it back.
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I just acquired a 2017 JB-5 with the stock single coil pickups and with a series/parallel push/pull mod. I am loving series mode on it! It's its own thing for sure, a great, very useful sound.
 
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