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G&L Club Part 7

View attachment 3606875 View attachment 3606877 View attachment 3606878 Well now I can say I'm official got it yesterday. My only issue is wanting to draw more low end warmth from it does anyone have any tips of trade. By the way I LOVE THE NECK

Super nice bass!

For warmth I suggest you to start with the volume knob at 70% and treble and bass controls rolled off, select the neck pickup only and choose series mode.

Afterwards, add bass as needed and a little bit of treble to bring clarity.
 
Well now I can say I'm official got it yesterday. My only issue is wanting to draw more low end warmth from it does anyone have any tips of trade. By the way I LOVE THE NECK[/QUOTE]

That looks like the CLF L2000 I want to buy next spring. In the meanwhile, to relieve the GAS pressure I picked up a Tribute cheap to carry me over. While I knew, from the minute I played it, it was no US version, I also felt it was a ridiculously good player for what it cost (about a 1/3rd of the US version).

I'm happy, for now.
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I should mention that the neck is more like the kind of P basses I've played over the years, 1.75 at the nut and a little thicker than what's offered on the CLF L1000's and L2000's (1 5/8th with a slim C profile). Nevertheless, it's still a comfortable bass for me.
 
Well now I can say I'm official got it yesterday. My only issue is wanting to draw more low end warmth from it does anyone have any tips of trade. By the way I LOVE THE NECK

That looks like the CLF L2000 I want to buy next spring. In the meanwhile, to relieve the GAS pressure I picked up a Tribute cheap to carry me over. While I knew, from the minute I played it, it was no US version, I also felt it was a ridiculously good player for what it cost (about a 1/3rd of the US version).

I'm happy, for now.View attachment 3607137View attachment 3607138View attachment 3607140 View attachment 3607141[/QUOTE]

those are awesome Basses. Considering getting one as a back up.
 
Super nice bass!

For warmth I suggest you to start with the volume knob at 70% and treble and bass controls rolled off, select the neck pickup only and choose series mode.

Afterwards, add bass as needed and a little bit of treble to bring clarity.
I'll try this, it's a bit frustrating because I've seen people and videos and people are able to get such warm punchy sounds. And for me it's either too much bass and it farts out or too high and it distorts as well. And this is the first bass in years that the body and neck wise just feels right. :rollno:
 
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I'll try this, it's a bit frustrating because I've seen people and videos and people are able to get such warm punchy sounds. And for me it's either too baddy and it farts out or too high and it distorts as well. And this is the first bass in years that body and neck wise just feels right. :rollno:
Might I also add, I so seldom use the preamp, my battery died, I did not know till I decided to use it to get a boost for OD. I run in passive mode almost exclusively.

The G&L preamp was designed to overcome the signal / tone loss from long cable runs. The volume, balance, switches are all BEFORE the preamp.

*Note the bass and treble are cut only.
Therefore fully clockwise is wide open.

The OMG (series) setting will raise the low mids quite a bit, and has a cap added to cut the treble a bit, it also will dramatically increase the output. MFDs are stronger than any thing else. So if you employ the series setting be sure to further roll back the volume knob!!!

If you want to warm it a bit and add a bit of air and tame the natural aggression a smidge, increase the distance between the strings and the pickup (s).

Mine are all the way into the body on the bass side, slightly raised on the treble side
My volume knob is at about 70%.
Bass rolled back to 80% treble to taste.
String choice is also critical, and personal. My favorites are EB Cobalt flats, followed by DR pure Blues, followed by GHS Brite Flats ( Brite flats the warmest)
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@dave64o new pics :)
 
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Might I also add, I so seldom use the preamp, I run in passive mode
The G&L preamp was designed to overcome the signal / tone loss from long cable runs. The MFDs are stronger than any thing else.
If you want to warm it a bit and add a bit of air and take the natural aggression a smidge, increase the distance between the strings and the pickup (s).
Mine are all the way into the body on the bass side, slightly raised on the treble side
My volume knob is at about 70%.
Bass rolled back to 80% treble to taste.
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@dave64o new pics :)

thanks for the Pics! I'll try lowering the pickups. I'd love to maintain the active preamp in my signal.
 
thanks for the Pics! I'll try lowering the pickups. I'd love to maintain the active preamp in my signal.
But my point is that the preamp is a signal boost, (only).
Which is the Genesis of your issue with overdriving the input on your amp. The passive signal from the MFDs is already monsterous.
Unlike other preamps, the tone controls are in full effect with it defeated, as they come before the preamp. The highest preamp switch setting I call icepick, is a huge treble boost, which again, is intended to overcome the treble attenuation lost to the capacitance of the cable length and other items in the signal chain. (Unbuffered, multiple pedals, non bypass etc)
 
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But my point is that the preamp is a signal boost, (only).
Which is the Genesis of your issue with overdriving the input on your amp. The passive signal from the MFDs is already monsterous.
Unlike other preamps, the tone controls are in full effect with it defeated, as they come before the preamp. The highest preamp switch setting I call icepick, is a huge treble boost, which again, is intended to overcome the treble attenuation lost to the capacitance of the cable length and other items in the signal chain. (Unbuffered, multiple pedals, non bypass etc)

ah ok, I get what you are saying. I'll cut the preamp and see how that works.
 
Might I also add, I so seldom use the preamp, my battery died, I did not know till I decided to use it to get a boost for OD. I run in passive mode almost exclusively.
The G&L preamp was designed to overcome the signal / tone loss from long cable runs. The volume, balance, switches are all BEFORE the preamp.
*Note the bass and treble are cut only.
Therefore fully clockwise is wide open.
The OMG (series) setting will raise the low mids quite a bit, and has a cap added to cut the treble a bit, it also will dramatically increase the output. MFDs are stronger than any thing else. So if you employ the series setting be sure to further roll back the volume knob!!!
If you want to warm it a bit and add a bit of air and take the natural aggression a smidge, increase the distance between the strings and the pickup (s).
Mine are all the way into the body on the bass side, slightly raised on the treble side
My volume knob is at about 70%.
Bass rolled back to 80% treble to taste.
String choice is also critical, and personal. My favorites are EB Cobalt flats, followed by DR pure Blues, followed by GHS Brite Flats ( Brite flats the warmest)
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@dave64o new pics :)


I know I *just* used this picture in another post in another thread, but it's the right reply here as well...

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But my point is that the preamp is a signal boost, (only).
Which is the Genesis of your issue with overdriving the input on your amp. The passive signal from the MFDs is already monsterous.
Unlike other preamps, the tone controls are in full effect with it defeated, as they come before the preamp. The highest preamp switch setting I call icepick, is a huge treble boost, which again, is intended to overcome the treble attenuation lost to the capacitance of the cable length and other items in the signal chain. (Unbuffered, multiple pedals, non bypass etc)

well I tried what you suggested and it made a HUGE difference. I played it passively. I countered what I felt was a lack of mid range gut punch by by raising the mid option on my Sans Amp just a touch. I also played a bit with my eq pedal by starting at flat across the board and just raising the low end just a touch. And it was night and day in terms of tone. I'm starting to see what you guys are talking about in terms of this Basses versatility.
 
well I tried what you suggested and it made a HUGE difference. I played it passively. I countered what I felt was a lack of mid range gut punch by by raising the mid option on my Sans Amp just a touch. I also played a bit with my eq pedal by starting at flat across the board and just raising the low end just a touch. And it was night and day in terms of tone. I'm starting to see what you guys are talking about in terms of this Basses versatility.
Bur that's the beauty of a bass and treble passive tone circuit! Want more mid character ? Cut bass and treble that's what the controls are there for. The mfds have a lot of low content natively, and extended highs giving the impression of being a bit mid shy, they're not. Experiment , pull the bass cut and treble to 0.
Set your output volume where you are below the edge of overdrive, and raise the bass/treble to match the mid character you're digging for.

What the bass has as a passive circuit is designed to function like a Fender amp preamp. I know shocking ;! ;)


Have fun exploring there are no rules, try the series setting with the bridge pickup with the bass knob at 40% the treble fully closed and volume to taste .
 
Bur that's the beauty of a bass and treble passive tone circuit! Want more mid character ? Cut bass and treble that's what the controls are there for. The mfds have a lot of low content natively, and extended highs giving the impression of being a bit mid shy, they're not. Experiment , pull the bass cut and treble to 0.
Set your output volume where you are below the edge of overdrive, and raise the bass/treble to match the mid character you're digging for.

What the bass has as a passive circuit is designed to function like a Fender amp preamp. I know shocking ;! ;)


Have fun exploring there are no rules, try the series setting with the bridge pickup with the bass knob at 40% the treble fully closed and volume to taste .

I had never thought of the L2x00 curcuit this way - so technically (as a Fender Tone Stack behaves) it could be legit to run the bass and treble completely off and still produce a useable tone? I need to go home tonight and experiment a little!!!

I knew the bass and treble are passive - I run mine usually passive at about 75% bass, 50% treble, parallel, both pickups, volume 100% - and the tone is perfect - but I like getting new tones when I can. It never occurred to me to try lower options!
 
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