G&L Club Part 7

[svtbass]

I thought I'd share this in case anyone finds it useful. I made it because I was curious about the relative position of the Kilo pickup compared to the L2000 pickups, and it sort of spiraled from there.

All the pics are current images from G&Ls website except for the El Toro.

I aligned the nut and 12th frets as well as I could (gray lines) and indicated the locations of the Jazz pickups in the JB (blue lines) and P pickup in the LB100 (red line) to use as a reference. You can see where all the pickups are relative to those.

Accuracy is pretty good as limited by photo quality and my ability to shift the pics around in tiny increments in ppt.

This image makes it clear why the neck pickup in my El Toro sounds passably like a P bass.


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Here's actual measurements from the herd. Some have moved on to other pastures.

P pickup distance from nut (at split)

1962 Fender Precision: 28 ½ (28 bass pole 1)

Lakland USA 44-64 Glaub: 28 7/8 (28 3/8 bass pole 1)

2018 G&L LB100: 28 5/8 (28 1/8 bass pole 1)

1992 G&L SB1: 28 ¾ (28 ¼ bass pole 1)

1992 G&L SB1 fretless: 28 ¾ (28 ¼ bass pole 1)

2003 G&L SB2: 29 (28 ½ bass pole 1) (replacement neck is 1/4" longer)

1994 G&L SB2 fretless: 28 ¾ (28 ¼ bass pole 1)

1997 G&L SB2: 28 ¾ (28 ¼ bass pole 1)

1984 G&L SB1 1st gen: 28 ½ (to poles)

1982, 84 G&L SB2 1st gen: 28 ½ (to poles)

80, 81, 88, 14 G&L L1000: 28 ¼ (1st pole) 29 (2nd pole)

1984 (x2) G&L El Toro: 28 ½ (28 ¼ 1st pole) (28 ¾ 2nd pole)

 

[Edgetone]

Just got an order update on my CLF L-2500. Apparently they have never done neck binding on a Modern C5 neck with the CLF headstock before, so the engineering of it has held things up. They're not sure if it's going to work, so if it doesn't I'll get the standard headstock instead, which I don't mind at all.

 

[ahbass2500]

Standard headstock on CLF body might be cool in a uniqueness factor way. Doubt they do many of them that way.

 

[Edgetone]

Standard headstock on CLF body might be cool in a uniqueness factor way. Doubt they do many of them that way.

That's what I'm hoping for!

 

[tragicmagic]

I have a 2016 USA G&L LB-100 ... it's output has always seemed a bit on the low side, especially compared to my ASAT bass in passive mode. It's also noticeably lower that an Epiphone Vintage Plus Thunderbird, and Supro Huntington II.

Its measured the DC resistance at the output jack, with volume and tone maxed, is 9.77 k ohms. Is that within the normal range for LB-100s with the stock alnico pickups?

 

[gbrooding]

I have TI Jazz flats on my L1000 and can't believe how great they sound. I mostly play with my fingers but the TI's have a special quality when you use a pick. I have LaBella LTF's on my L2000. I like them, too but the TI's are my favorites.

I went with the La Bella Deep Talkin Flats, and I really like them. I think more than the GHS Precision flats that are on my P Bass. They feel and sound better to me. Looking forward to hearing them in a band setting.

 

[donahue]

I have a 2016 USA G&L LB-100 ... it's output has always seemed a bit on the low side, especially compared to my ASAT bass in passive mode. It's also noticeably lower that an Epiphone Vintage Plus Thunderbird, and Supro Huntington II.

Its measured the DC resistance at the output jack, with volume and tone maxed, is 9.77 k ohms. Is that within the normal range for LB-100s with the stock alnico pickups?

I bet the LB is a nice ying to the yang of the ASAT. Probably very open and glassy sounding? I bet that output is about right for it. It can never sound like the MFDs. I suspect it was designed to do the opposite.

 

[jcburn]

That's what I'm hoping for!

I am one of those rare units that loves the eye gouger headstock and dislikes the original lawsuit one. Would love some CLF action with an eye gouger!

 

[jmlee]

Hi folks need your help,I want to do the K mod to a L2500.
I know nothing about electronics so a tech will do it.

Now every tech I talked to says give me a scheme.
I have read all the threads and the info is confusing.
One scheme mentions an aguilar pre amp,another has extra mods,the original hand drawing on bassesbyleo seems diffrent.

What I would like is a scheme I can give a tech that works for sure to avoid misunderstandings.
Thanks.

I've attached the document you need. I used this to do the K-mod on my L-2500. I chose the inner coils for single coil mode, but both are shown here with lots of other variants. The switching diagrams require re-reading with a large bourbon, but things eventually come clear. All you'll need is one new micro-switch to replace the series/parallel micro-switch. Enjoy!

 

[Leonid Nidis]

I've attached the document you need. I used this to do the K-mod on my L-2500. I chose the inner coils for single coil mode, but both are shown here with lots of other variants. The switching diagrams require re-reading with a large bourbon, but things eventually come clear. All you'll need is one new micro-switch to replace the series/parallel micro-switch. Enjoy!

Thank you!
Do I need extra grounding to make it less noisy in series like in the original scheme?

 

[jmlee]

Thank you!
Do I need extra grounding to make it less noisy in series like in the original scheme?

I used the wiring as shown and all's been quiet.

 

[tragicmagic]

I bet the LB is a nice ying to the yang of the ASAT. Probably very open and glassy sounding? I bet that output is about right for it. It can never sound like the MFDs. I suspect it was designed to do the opposite.

I wouldn't say it's glassy. Definitely more polite. They have different strings though - the ASAT has 45-105 DR Sunbeams while the LB-100 has 45-100 D'Addario NYXL. Still makes me wonder if there's something wrong with it. When I use the ASAT set to passive (or any of my other non LB-100 passive basses) on the Active (padded) input of a Mesa Walkabout, they are significantly louder than when the LB-100 is using the passive (non-padded) input of the amp... I'd have to turn up the gain quite a bit to level match.

 

[TomB]

I wouldn't say it's glassy. Definitely more polite. They have different strings though - the ASAT has 45-105 DR Sunbeams while the LB-100 has 45-100 D'Addario NYXL. Still makes me wonder if there's something wrong with it. When I use the ASAT set to passive (or any of my other non LB-100 passive basses) on the Active (padded) input of a Mesa Walkabout, they are significantly louder than when the LB-100 is using the passive (non-padded) input of the amp... I'd have to turn up the gain quite a bit to level match.

Welcome to MFD's . I never run 'em wide-open - and I've been running'em 40 years now! ...surprises me to say that.

 

[tragicmagic]

Welcome to MFD's . I never run 'em wide-open - and I've been running'em 40 years now! ...surprises me to say that.

I've been playing the ASAT since 2002, not quite as long but yeah, MFD being hot isn't what worries me as I'm used to it. The other non G&L passive basses I mentioned are less output than ASAT, but still a lot more than the LB-100... to the point that even putting the input pad on the amp doesn't bring them close. I tried raising the alnico pickup but that didn't make much of a difference in volume as they were fairly high to begin with

 

[Music Man Dan]

Hello all of you G&L aficionados and addicts. Has anyone heard if G&L plans on making a special run of basses to commemorate their 40th anniversary this year (2020)? G&L did a special run for their 35th anniversary; those emerald green JB's were gorgeous! If there's something special coming in 2020 for their 40th anniversary then I need to start saving my pennies now!

 

[/\/\3phist0]

Hello all of you G&L aficionados and addicts. Has anyone heard if G&L plans on making a special run of basses to commemorate their 40th anniversary this year (2020)? G&L did a special run for their 35th anniversary; those emerald green JB's were gorgeous! If there's something special coming in 2020 for their 40th anniversary then I need to start saving my pennies now!

Paging @TonyP- @armyadarkness

 

[TonyP-]

Paging @TonyP- @armyadarkness

I have not heard about anything, except the models. However I can ask.

 

[ahbass2500]

Hello all of you G&L aficionados and addicts. Has anyone heard if G&L plans on making a special run of basses to commemorate their 40th anniversary this year (2020)? G&L did a special run for their 35th anniversary; those emerald green JB's were gorgeous! If there's something special coming in 2020 for their 40th anniversary then I need to start saving my pennies now!

NAMM CS Models were labeled 40th. Not sure if it is a series, but good looking basses.

 

[Music Man Dan]

Thank you for posting that video. The only bass that was referred to as a 40th anniversary edition appeared at 1:46 in the video. They didn't even mention which bass it was (I think it's an LB100 in the video?). Is that all that G&L is offering in their non-CLF bass line for a 40th anniversary edition? Seems kind of weak if that one bass at 1:46 in the video is all there is to the commemorate their 40th.

G&L did a great job with their 35th anniversary line-up. So far, it looks like that performance won't be repeated for their 40th anniversary?

 

[ahbass2500]

Sign in front of the custom shop guitar and bass says 40th on both of them. My guess is they are anniversary finishes as well.