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Geddy Lee????? I don't get it.......

I personally love arguing over Rush. Many arguments invalidated: many comments nullified. See my comment above.

JetBlackJazz - Your 'Rant post' about sums it up better than I could have put in words. Honestly I didn't read to many of the posts in this thread because I was too annoyed by the complete lack of respect for one of the hardest working and most talented trio of musicians in rock history. And these '(Fill in the blank)??? I don't get it.... threads are very annoying. Maybe he doesn't get it because the complexity of RUSH's music and Geddy's Bass Playing is beyound his level of simple minded comprehension. Gol' dang it... I posted in this stupid thread again!!!
 
... like Mc Donalds, The Idea of food. But with no nourishment.... Am I the only one that feels this way?

And there are lots of talented musicians who play lifeless music. Note perfect, technically challenging, but boring. It's like they're thinking, not feeling. At the other extreme, albums like "Exile on Main Street" (the Rolling Stones at their most wasted) pop to mind, and all the great Motown records. What do they call it? Oh yeah: soul.
 
I have always despised the music of Rush for the simple reason that all of their songs that I've heard, at least dozens, have been collections of likeminded riffs with no emotional content. To be Rush, all you would have to do is be born as a middle class kid, go into your garage with plenty of musical equipment and two equally well to do friends and practice until you could play some pretty tasty riffs. Not exactly a lot of talent required there! In fact, I'm surprised this is a "brave" opinion on Talkbass, to the point that this is regarded as a "troll post". In the real world? They are seen by the majority as immature, posturing prog-rock, which I think is an accurate assessment.

So all it takes is money, gear, and a bit of time? And not a lot of talent?

Oh, my.

Had I only known this 45 years ago. :rolleyes:

BTW, I HATE screamo in all its perverse permutations. :hiding: My son plays in a screamo band, and they are pretty good. For screamo. :D

Ugh.
 
OK, First off I know I will get a tun of flack. But I HATE Geddy Lee and Rush. Sorry people. AHhahahaha! I just don't get it. I don't see the appeal. It all seems so sterile and contrived, over rehearsed, and poorly written. The playing is great, but is so FLAT, so SAFE, so blaaaa. They are like Mc Donalds, The Idea of food. But with no nourishment.

2behead said:
I get more excited about a 16 year old kid that only knows the pentatonic in A and E but loves it than Rush. Am I the only one that feels this way?

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JetBlackJazz - Your 'Rant post' about sums it up better than I could have put in words. Honestly I didn't read to many of the posts in this thread because I was too annoyed by the complete lack of respect for one of the hardest working and most talented trio of musicians in rock history. And these '(Fill in the blank)??? I don't get it.... threads are very annoying. Maybe he doesn't get it because the complexity of RUSH's music and Geddy's Bass Playing is beyound his level of simple minded comprehension. Gol' dang it... I posted in this stupid thread again!!!

Lol I know how you feel. I'm somewhat of a Rush elitist. But they deserve it more than any other band in existence. Some people just don't or CAN'T understand. And that's not their fault; but what is their fault is when they just disrespect and troll on a level unknown simple by not giving due credit or even a second thought to something so deep and well thought as Rush. I'm not dissing his opinion, just his idiocy
 
2behead, Try listening to older Rush...2112, Hemispheres, A Farewell to Kings....Moving Pictures too. More recent would be Snakes and Arrows....great album. Geddy's flamenco style as of the last few albums isn't really my cup of tea but there is so much to him and the band. Clockwork Angels will grow on me I"m sure but the only song I've heard that really grabs me so far on that album is The Wreckers and The Garden. I've been a Rush fan for 36 years! Not everyone likes them but you gotta respect the Ged master. Keep Rockin!
 
I saw this...didn't want to revive it, but it made my face purple and so I had to. Not one person can tell me it is poorly written and sterile to my face without being b****slapped into next week.

I can't be bothered to actually dive into the amount of wrong in what you've said because with the amount of ignorance I saw in the first post it probably wouldn't get through. All respect to you sir, but you should listen closer and actually see what they're doing and how much they love doing it before saying something like this. /rant
 
If we're keeping the revival going, I'll just suggest La Villa Strangiato. If you ask me, it's easily Rush's best composition under ten minutes (barely), and it perfectly shows that they're far from cookie-cutter. I find it seems those who call Rush "cookie-cutter" have only heard Permanent Waves through Signals or so courtesy of the radio.
 
Admittedly I haven't listened to a lot of Rush. Just what is on the radio, what is put on at parties and the few stray "no you gotta hear this one" incidents. I can see the skill. He/they are soled. I just feel like the only bass player I know that isn't into at at all. It's one of those, "that guy? Relay?" situations. I will check out Hemispheres. I want to see it but I just haven't heard any thing to back up all the hype.
What else should I listen to. Something that sounds organic?

"A Farewell To Kings"
"Caress Of Steel"

Unfortunately "radio" rarely ever plays the stuff that musicians like to hear/play. :-)
 
Here's the thing that you young guys will never understand -- when we first heard Rush, those of us who weren't early adopters anyway, around 1979-81, they were at their creative peak, and nobody, NOBODY, sounded like they did. It was a strange and magical experience. To bassists in particular, Rush was liberating. Geddy could do anything he wanted to and get away with it. They took progressive rock and made something commercially viable out of it, which no one else was able to do. Even Yes and Genesis had to change their sound to get the big audiences they craved after the initial interest in the early seventies died out. But Rush -- they blazed the trail.

If you listen to Geddy live, or even hear his isolated studio tracks, you may find yourself appreciating that what you think of as his sterility is actually his extreme accuracy. This is best appreciated before they started playing to a click track, Exit Stage Left is my favorite example (or now that they don't do that anymore, today's shows too).

Geddy is rightly considered one of the best bassists ever. I prefer his earlier work to what he does now -- he's completely changed his style several times over the years. But I don't discount what he's doing now, either. He's still a monster.