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Geddy Lee????? I don't get it.......

#222
gjbassist said:
Really? I like Jack Bruce but IMO he is not on the same level as Geddy and the Ox.
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Funny part is that Geddy himself would disagree with you. I think if you want to compare Bruce and Geddy, you compare Cream to Rush's early-to-mid periods. That's when they were most similar. After about Power Windows (and definitely after Counterparts), Geddy became a radically different bassist.
 
#223
Bruce I can listen to lot. Comparing his playing and note selection from early live recordings to the reunion in 2005 is interesting.

I simply can't like Geddy. We laughed and smashed the first record we heard back in the 70's and I have never warmed to him in voice, tone or playing style. Would also never think of him as equal to Bruce.
 
#224
Aussie Player said:
Bruce I can listen to lot. Comparing his playing and note selection from early live recordings to the reunion in 2005 is interesting.

I simply can't like Geddy. We laughed and smashed the first record we heard back in the 70's and I have never warmed to him in voice, tone or playing style. Would also never think of him as equal to Bruce.
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What a waste of a good record...
 
#229
2behead said:
OK, First off I know I will get a tun of flack. But I HATE Geddy Lee and Rush. Sorry people. AHhahahaha! I just don't get it. I don't see the appeal. It all seems so sterile and contrived, over rehearsed, and poorly written. Now to clarify, there are players I don't care for but truly respect. Victor Wooten for example, Fantastic, Hell, amazing player. Not my thing, but wonderful. I believe it. Seems like he is making it up as he goes, Has a sense of spontaneity to it. Les Claypool , he is another one. I'm not a Primus fan, but his playing seems authentic, has that something behind it. Rush just sounds like a few soulless studio guys that thought they could do it better that the artistes they were recording for. The playing is great, but is so FLAT, so SAFE, so blaaaa. They are like Mc Donalds, The Idea of food. But with no nourishment. I get more excited about a 16 year old kid that only knows the pentatonic in A and E but loves it than Rush. Am I the only one that feels this way?

See my next comment @ #84 before you respond .....
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Just curious, have you really listened to 2112? There is a passion in that album that few can touch, and most of it is based around the Maj and Min pentatonic scale. This isn't to challenge you, it's to enlighten you.
 
#230
2behead said:
Admittedly I haven't listened to a lot of Rush. Just what is on the radio, what is put on at parties and the few stray "no you gotta hear this one" incidents. I can see the skill. He/they are soled. I just feel like the only bass player I know that isn't into at at all. It's one of those, "that guy? Relay?" situations. I will check out Hemispheres. I want to see it but I just haven't heard any thing to back up all the hype.
What else should I listen to. Something that sounds organic?
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There's nothing wrong with having an opinion about this...however, it should at least be an informed opinion if you want to sound intelligent about your conclusion. Here, you admit that you've barely even listened to the band but feel compelled to discount a group that a huge segment of bass players admire. Once I read the above, however, it's hard to take your opinion seriously.

I'm not a huge Rush fan. I think all of the members are individually amazing and they do have a number of songs I think are great. But, much of the songwriting and style just doesn't jibe with my interests. However, I reached this conclusion after actually listening to much of the catalog a number of times so I could reach an informed opinion about a band that is objectively considered iconic. You may want to consider demonstrating an informed an opinion on this, and any other subject, before just lobbing a post to see how much you can stir up the hornet's nest.
 
#235
have to preface this by saying that Rush is my most favorite band bar none. They are the band that can "do no wrong" for me. I started as a drummer (still is my "main" instrument, my declared major through college) so I was brought in by Neil Peart, but decided to stay for the whole thing...

dbd1963 said:
Here's the thing that you young guys will never understand -- when we first heard Rush, those of us who weren't early adopters anyway, around 1979-81, they were at their creative peak, and nobody, NOBODY, sounded like they did. It was a strange and magical experience. To bassists in particular, Rush was liberating. Geddy could do anything he wanted to and get away with it. They took progressive rock and made something commercially viable out of it, which no one else was able to do. Even Yes and Genesis had to change their sound to get the big audiences they craved after the initial interest in the early seventies died out. But Rush -- they blazed the trail.

If you listen to Geddy live, or even hear his isolated studio tracks, you may find yourself appreciating that what you think of as his sterility is actually his extreme accuracy. This is best appreciated before they started playing to a click track, Exit Stage Left is my favorite example (or now that they don't do that anymore, today's shows too).

Geddy is rightly considered one of the best bassists ever. I prefer his earlier work to what he does now -- he's completely changed his style several times over the years. But I don't discount what he's doing now, either. He's still a monster.
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yes. What he said ^^^

What other band from their era has:
1. NOT broken up due to all of the reasons other weaker bands did, and then got back together with only 1 "original" member for a "reunion" tour
2. continued to make the music THEY wanted to make, NOT the public, or record company or the media
3. experimented with sounds, instruments etc, with out worrying about failing, and then admitting that the experiment was a failure, and simply just moving on
4. been extremely humble and not caught up in the jackassery that can be the rock and roll world

for these points alone, I think they will stand out as legendary, adding their musical accomplishments on top as the "icing". I feel sorry for the people that won't give them a chance...
 
#236
onosson said:
I never got into Rush at all, though I have known people who are diehard fans. I respect their skill but have little interest in their music. But I come from a blues background, so most of the music I like has a bit of swing or funkiness going on.
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I too like it to swing, a little funky,which is why I like the Jerry tunes but don't care for the Bob ones. (Used to be married to a deadhead)This is why I have never put any Rush on.
Can someone suggest something a little funky that they play?
Not so robotronic? Flea? now that's some good funky stuff.
 
#237
Here's what I'd like to see: A Rush "MTV Unplugged" appearance. Peart on congas, Lifeson on an acoustic guitar, and Geddy on an acoustic bass guitar and no pedals, with subdued screeching. Then I could focus on the songwriting and feel of the group.
My basic problems with them are that they don't swing (as has been mentioned), there is a lack of space, and the bombastic drums, vocals, and, yes, bass playing do nothing for me. And, I find the lyrics pretentious and focused on things in which I have no interest.
It goes without saying that they are all extremely adept players.
 
#240
GM60466 said:
Everybody has a right to their opinion. Maybe it is better if they kept it to themselves. It is hard to argue with 30+ years of musical success.
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Yup, they have a lot of fans. What they do still doesn't appeal to me.

I always get sucked into "The Beatles are overrated" threads around here. All I can do is point people toward songs they might not have heard, because simply reminding them that the Beatles are the most artistically influential and financially successful group of the 20th century does nothing to make people like their music. And, rightly so. (It's all opinion and taste.)
 

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