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Genz Benz Streamliner Part 3!!!!
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I called YOMS today. Michael said he was going to ship my SL900 on Monday. I'm in Chicagoland, so I hope I get it before rehearsal on Thursday night.
Ya mooch and soonermatt, let's stay in touch as we are all waiting for our STM-600's to arrive.
Yeah thats probably a good idea if one of us talks to Mike, and let each other know what he is telling us all. I called on Thursday and he said if they didn't come Friday they shouldn't be far behind. But that to me means he really has no idea. Either way hopefully we get good news this week.
After KJungs video I'm having a hard time buying another amp, I may have to grab one of these.
I've been out of the amp picture for at least 5 years. I love my Navigator PRE & the 2400 Watt power amp to boot. Add a tuner & wireless unit & we have 70 lbs of awesome rack goodness.
Now that I'm going to be doing a regular church gig I'm going to need another amp. I've been watching the micro amp revolution from a far & see the portable craze taking over. I've been skeptical...
1. I love my wireless
2. I love my tuner
3. Headroom galore, 1200W @ 4 ohms into each 5.3 ohm 750W cab
4. Often I use 1 side to run music through my PA the other for my amp for practice
5. DJ for family parties
6. Hell you're moving a big cab anyway & you show up 2 hours early to the show, 1 more trip no big deal
but most of all, the tone... These Class D amps couldn't come even close until the Streamliner. This one seems like its in the ballpark. I never could justify buying an amp that was sounded worse than the one I have just because I can move it around easier but the Streamliner is sucking me in.
You only live once, I've had all my other gear for YEARS so why not get what you want right? I've done tons of research, listened to clips, read reviews, tested stuff at the store & haven't been able to justify the Class D purchase.
I think that ends soon, can't wait to try one out!
I've been out of the amp picture for at least 5 years. I love my Navigator PRE & the 2400 Watt power amp to boot. Add a tuner & wireless unit & we have 70 lbs of awesome rack goodness.
Now that I'm going to be doing a regular church gig I'm going to need another amp. I've been watching the micro amp revolution from a far & see the portable craze taking over. I've been skeptical...
1. I love my wireless
2. I love my tuner
3. Headroom galore, 1200W @ 4 ohms into each 5.3 ohm 750W cab
4. Often I use 1 side to run music through my PA the other for my amp for practice
5. DJ for family parties
6. Hell you're moving a big cab anyway & you show up 2 hours early to the show, 1 more trip no big deal
but most of all, the tone... These Class D amps couldn't come even close until the Streamliner. This one seems like its in the ballpark. I never could justify buying an amp that was sounded worse than the one I have just because I can move it around easier but the Streamliner is sucking me in.
You only live once, I've had all my other gear for YEARS so why not get what you want right? I've done tons of research, listened to clips, read reviews, tested stuff at the store & haven't been able to justify the Class D purchase.
I think that ends soon, can't wait to try one out!
I used to run a 2400 watt power amp with my Navigator.
I never needed that much, but, I looooove tons of clean headroom.
It does wonderful things for dynamic response.
I'd wager very few people will ever use 900 watts worth of Streamliner very hard, but, I bet the response, feel and dynamics out of it is very fun!
I never needed that much, but, I looooove tons of clean headroom.
It does wonderful things for dynamic response.
I'd wager very few people will ever use 900 watts worth of Streamliner very hard, but, I bet the response, feel and dynamics out of it is very fun!
2400 watts ....Holy Moly! Is it a stadium church
I've had this for years... surprisingly the Eden Navigator & 2400W poweramp was LESS than a Streamliner 900 & the best amps at the time... the SWR SM900, Eden WT800, Aguilars
Don't you guys remember those times! I"m not that old!
Outdoor gigs & 810s take a lot of juice. My old cab was a SWR 610... it loved juice.
It was always overkill but it was (Still is) fun as hell!
Its time to accept the times have changed without sacrificing tone... I've noticed a LOT of microheads up for sale from this group so I'm glad I waited for the Streamliner
Thanks Chef. I've been tempted to consider the 600 but I'm likely to be running one cab at 8 ohms most of the time. Your comment about dynamic response is a good one.
I think the 600 at 8 ohms may not be the best option.
Depends what you need. I'm sure it still likely "behaves well," but whether that's enough go juice for your requirements is a different deal.
I'd much rather bring a howitzer to a knife fight, myself
I'd much rather bring a howitzer to a knife fight, myself
After playing a 600 watt Shuttlemax in every gig situation over the last year or so, I just can't fathom needing 900 watts. But like Chef said, everyones situation manifests a unique set of requirements. For the Funk, Motown, Soul music that I play, there are no distorted guitar rigs to contend with, so that is certainly a factor, but my master volume has never gone beyond 30% on my Shuttle 6.
I personally agree... if I have a gig I think I'll need the power I love having the "other" setup but I'm sure the 600W will do just fine.
Lets face it...
The board usually gets your pre-EQ sound & sends that to the house blasting that through the club, your cab is your personal monitor. (I'm not a jazz, blues background guy with no PA support player)
At the church its the same way, the "Crowd" hears the PA, not my cab... 600W is enough for that.
That being said I would think 600W is minimum. I wouldn't feel comfortable buying 450w heads as my main gigging amp.
how flat are these voiced? I'm interested in using one for guitar and bass. The Shuttle 6 was too bottom heavy for guitar...
I'm not an expert, but I think these are voiced fairly low. I needed to actually cut the bass a little. Maybe someone from Genz will chime in.
After playing a 600 watt Shuttlemax in every gig situation over the last year or so, I just can't fathom needing 900 watts. But like Chef said, everyones situation manifests a unique set of requirements. For the Funk, Motown, Soul music that I play, there are no distorted guitar rigs to contend with, so that is certainly a factor, but my master volume has never gone beyond 30% on my Shuttle 6.
Chef's not saying he needs 900 watts for volume. He actually said he doesn't need all those watts. He is talking about the dynamic response that all that head room gives him is what he digs. I don't want to speak for him, but that's what I got out of it.
All I know is that with 600 watts of GB power, most soundmen ask me to turn down at 25%...kapisco?
I know its a bizarre request but lets face it the crowd hears what comes out of the Direct Out to the Club\Church etc in most cases. If anyone could do a review of the warmth of the direct out on the Streamliner vs the TC, LM III etc that would be awesome. Its impossible to test a direct out at the store & to me its the MOST important feature of the whole amp. A bad direct out can sink you.
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