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Genz Benz Streamliner; Part 4

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#541
mntngrown said:
This thread is making me feel like the month I quit drinking!
OK it was really 3 weeks. Want one want one want one
My shuttle 9 puts out 900 watts too but y'all think this amp is so much better. An owner told me it was mid scooped recently. You shuttle 9 owners like Red Planet think you gave up some mid punch for whatever else the SL has to offer? Or Not?
It's OK to be honest.
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You can easily dial back in some Mid Punch to the Streamliner, just as you can easily warm up the Shuttle 9.0. The Streamliner will get snappy bright if you want it to as well.

The Streamliner definitely has a bit of Mid Scoop to it set flat. Not drastic but it's there.

There are more ways to dial the Shuttle 9.0 to warmness than you might think. One of the first simple things is turning your tweeter off completely. This immediately brings it back to old school. Hit the Mid Scoop and maybe even the Bass Boost and think 4x10 HLF territory.

To me IME the Shuttle 9.0 is much more warmer and rounder than any of the MarkBass amps. I had an LMIII and TA501 before I got the 9.0 and I was able to AB the LMIII with the 9.0 directly. Difference is night and day IMO.

IMO the Shuttle Max 12.0 is way closer to LMIII/F500 territory, though the Max has much more depth to the tonal character.

You just have to understand you can not dial out the tubyness of the Streamliner. It is present all the time.
 
#545
Jazzdogg said:
Can someone explain why the Uber Quad (GB 1288T-UQ), an 8-Ohm cab, is equipped with only one Speakon jack? :rollno:

I've been thinking about running a pair of them ever since I heard them at NAMM, but a single Speakon makes no sense to me.
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I'm confused....why do you need two?
 
#548
Scott McArron said:
The DB750 is my favorite tone to date. Now, I'm using an RH450, which has been great and can get relatively close to the DB750, but it sounds to me that the SL can get even closer.

One complaint that I have about my RH450 is the lack of sparkle on the high end due to the 5k LPF for that sealed cab vibe. That sounds great in a lot of circumstances, but is really limiting on those new-skool R&B gigs I do where I need a little more scooped modern tone. I've been waiting for an RH450 update, but it seems the SL might just be what I'm looking for.

Unfortunately, the SL vs. RH450 thread was closed, otherwise I would have posted there. However, which one of these lightweight heads sounds more in the heavy weight range? The RH450 has all the power I personally will ever need. What benefits would I get from getting the SL900 over the 600 as compared to the output of the RH450? IOW, does the 600 have the same relative output as the RH450? And will I lose that "note heft" with the 600 as compared to the 900?
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What I find interesting is that it seems many people are all over this amp but showed no interest in the RH450, like it didn't peak their interest at all. Both amps seem to be a similar product. :confused: I have followed both the RH450 and the this thread from the beginning. You almost get the sense that they think the RH450 is not even in the same league, but never heard or played one. Of course some of the same people have been contributors to both threads. Me, I've been a sucker for both amps. Perhaps 450 watts wasn't enough to get some peoples attention and 900 is the magic number.
 
#549
adivin said:
What I find interesting is that it seems many people are all over this amp but showed no interest in the RH450, like it didn't peak their interest at all. Both amps seem to be a similar product. :confused: I have followed both the RH450 and the this thread from the beginning. You almost get the sense that they think the RH450 is not even in the same league, but never heard or played one. Of course some of the same people have been contributors to both threads. Me, I've been a sucker for both amps. Perhaps 450 watts wasn't enough to get some peoples attention and 900 is the magic number.
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The 450 is a great amp. And it is not about the power.
The Streamliner is just in another league tone wise: Fatter, tubier, amazing.
 
#550
adivin said:
What I find interesting is that it seems many people are all over this amp but showed no interest in the RH450, like it didn't peak their interest at all. Both amps seem to be a similar product. :confused: I have followed both the RH450 and the this thread from the beginning. You almost get the sense that they think the RH450 is not even in the same league, but never heard or played one. Of course some of the same people have been contributors to both threads. Me, I've been a sucker for both amps. Perhaps 450 watts wasn't enough to get some peoples attention and 900 is the magic number.
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Yeah, I think the watts was a big one. There were many excited about having more watts into an 8ohm speaker. Myself, it was more Genz reputation that brought me in, not that the 450 has a bad one, just one i am not as familiar with.
 
#553
pablomigraine said:
Just got my UPS tracking number and receipt from Genz Benz. I just peed.

:D
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If this isn't the most obvious sign of Streamliner hysteria I don't know what else could prove it to you :hiding:

Love it!

Can't dial out the tubiness? Great! A Jazz is a jazz, a P bass is a P bass. I think we should look at amps the same way, no one amp will fit all sounds, there are tones the Tube Streamliner|Aguilar will be best at, there are tones the SS Shuttlemax\LM III whatever will be good at
 
#554
adivin said:
What I find interesting is that it seems many people are all over this amp but showed no interest in the RH450, like it didn't peak their interest at all. Both amps seem to be a similar product. :confused: I have followed both the RH450 and the this thread from the beginning. You almost get the sense that they think the RH450 is not even in the same league, but never heard or played one. Of course some of the same people have been contributors to both threads. Me, I've been a sucker for both amps. Perhaps 450 watts wasn't enough to get some peoples attention and 900 is the magic number.
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For me I need that 500 watts into 8 ohms. The tone is the icing on the cake.

BTW that is chocolate cake with chocolate icing. :smug:

For my Upright Bass needs, that 500 watts into one 1x12 cab is where it is.
 
#555
adivin said:
What I find interesting is that it seems many people are all over this amp but showed no interest in the RH450, like it didn't peak their interest at all. Both amps seem to be a similar product. :confused: I have followed both the RH450 and the this thread from the beginning. You almost get the sense that they think the RH450 is not even in the same league, but never heard or played one. Of course some of the same people have been contributors to both threads. Me, I've been a sucker for both amps. Perhaps 450 watts wasn't enough to get some peoples attention and 900 is the magic number.
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For me personally, I'm partially relying on the peer reviews, which may be a mistake, but the general reaction to the Streamliner on TB (including several trusted TBers) has been SO overwhelmingly positive that it has me ALMOST interested enough to order without trying it out. Not quite, but almost.

I have heard some negative comments about the RH450, but pretty much everybody has raved about the SL. I hate to say it, but hearing all these kudos makes me think I'll like it too. There is a certain amount of going along with the hype that happens with all of these products. I still want to try a few of the new amps and compare them, but I have to admit I'm a bit caught up in the hype too.

Maybe GB should release a TBer endorsed edition of the Streamliner, the Kjung SL 900, with a custom paint job etc., just like companies do with basses.
 
#558
Speaking of Streamliner mid-scoops.... does anyone have access to a computer with a decent sound card? If so, perhaps one of you can run a signal through the Streamliner and make a frequency response plot. RMAA, FDeck's RTA software, or similar would suffice.
 
#560
My Streamliner isn't here yet, but from Ed and Ken's video I can hear a pretty different tone from the RH450. The SL has an open, clear top end that just isn't there in the RH450. I just put my RH450 on the AE212 for a quick spin. First time I've had that head out in a while. I had forgotten how absent the highs are in it's voicing. It can be cool, but your stuck with it all the time.

Beyond that, the SL sounds to me to have a more typical fat tube tone, even when run clean. I don't think I've ever used the term "fat" to describe the RH450, which I still love.

Sent from my iPad using TalkBass. Please pardon terse messages. All spelling errors are the sole property of Apple, Inc.
 
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