Genz Benz Streamliner; Part 4

[KJung]

How's the slap tone on the SL?

Here is a link to that clip that Chef mentioned above. Fingertyle and slap on a 70's style J with stainless steel rounds and a very 'accurate' full range cab. Playing starts at around 30 seconds if you want to skip the blah blah blah.

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[Gab124]

I second the notion to not feel silly about the 600. It is by no means an amateur amp - and has more power than I have ever needed. Through my TB153 it dominates the low end very well. And it looks better than the 900 to boot

Thanks, Ken! Understood about the volume taper, and clean headroom. But how much headroom is enough? What I'm hearing you say is that over-kill should suffice for any setting. And it is the clean tube-i-ness I'm after as well... Not to mention I like the 900 cosmetics better! I feel a bit silly for having got the 600 now!

My settings on the RH450 are input about 10 o'clock (compressor set about the same too), drop 220-250 hz about 4-5 clicks, post EQ vol @ 100%, tube tone (when used) +3 clicks... Master usually runs from 10 o'clock to 1 o'clock through either 1x12 or 1x15 (both TL cabs, KappaLite loaded, port covers installed). Typically, this is keeping up with "drum volume." Any louder and the Direct Out feeds the PA, typically... But the aim is to keep the stage volume equal to the drums.

I may still pick up the 900 and compare - best I can anyway.

 

[svtb15]

Hey Gerry.. Glad we got to do the hang...
I agree with you... The Streamliner does have a sweet tonal airy thing going on up top too.. and the bottom is that pillow.. Just beautiful extension of in both direction so f the tonal plane.
The Reggie bass sounded great.. and lighter than my Sadowsky NYC.. damn!
If you ever sell that 73 Jazz keep me in mind.. That is one great piece of wood !
Glad you liked the streamliner too.. Let me know if you get one..

Just spent an hour or so with them, but here goes...(I'll alos let Kirk jump in)...

Basses used were a 73 Fender Jazz, and a new Fender Custom Shop Reggie Hamilton

The Streamliner is very tubey and warm, but with a nice clear clean when wanted...can get really growly when dialid in...and loud. I like the simplicity of the front. It really sounded great with the reggie and through the Genz Benz NEO212T...we also tested it with a couple of Aguilar S210 cabs, and it sounded fantastic...really tight and crisp.

The Shuttle 9.0 was definately more hi-fi sounding, with a really super clean and bright tone....nice slap tone...but has plenty of low end available...and is quite loud also. I think it sounded best through the two Aggie S210's

The GBE 1200 is a beast...still just my favorite lead sled head...Been using this for a few years now w/no issues at all...great power and headroom...love both the tube and FET channels, and which between them all the time...I use the Mid Cut option for some slap passages...and the low boost to "pillow up" the bottom end from time to time (depending on the room)...This head will be in the arsonal for many more years I believe...but note, I'm getting an SL900 also...

KIRK...feel free to comment...

 

[faulknersj]

Gab124: SL 600 + TB-153 =

 

[ko stradivarius]

So I got home from work yesterday and the amp was waiting for me.
I had just enough time to open the box and head off to rehearsal.
My first impression was that I liked the smoother tone it produces but I need more time to dial things in and mess with it.
I also had the 900 powering the 212x and slaving the shuttle6 to the 112x for rehearsal.
Here's a pic of the setup. Would I be committing sonic suicide If i placed the 112 on the bottom and the 212 on top to have the 900's output closer to ear level? For this Saturday's gig I'm competing against a Marshall stack and a couple of AC30s.

 

[wateroftyne]

I also had the 900 powering the 212x and slaving the shuttle6 to the 112x for rehearsal.

 

[Eublet]

Stack those cabs however you want.

 

[Mooch]

Well mere hours left to wait and my SL600 will be here. My cabs aren't home so I'll be headphones only till practice tomorrow but I still can't wait to finally have a new amp!

 

[svtb15]

Ill bet that sounds really good... My friend has the Neox212 and it is potent for its size and weight.. well, its just potent!

So I got home from work yesterday and the amp was waiting for me.
I had just enough time to open the box and head off to rehearsal.
My first impression was that I liked the smoother tone it produces but I need more time to dial things in and mess with it.
I also had the 900 powering the 212x and slaving the shuttle6 to the 112x for rehearsal.
Here's a pic of the setup. Would I be committing sonic suicide If i placed the 112 on the bottom and the 212 on top to have the 900's output closer to ear level? For this Saturday's gig I'm competing against a Marshall stack and a couple of AC30s.

 

[Chef]

Cool shot, and I know you don't seem to imply this, but, I don't think you can run both those cabs at the same time with the SL900...

 

[svtb15]

Yeah.. he is slaving the power section of the Shuttle 6 for the other cab

 

[ko stradivarius]

Yeah.. he is slaving the power section of the Shuttle 6 for the other cab

Correct. I'm simply taking the 900's send to the 600's receive effectively using the 900 as a preamp for the 600. Each amp still has its own master volume control.

 

[ko stradivarius]

Cool shot ...

Chef, not sure how often you get to St Louis but we rehearse in one of the (many) rooms in the old Lemp brewery downtown. Man, that place is huge, and spooky.

 

[steve f]

I second the notion to not feel silly about the 600. It is by no means an amateur amp - and has more power than I have ever needed. Through my TB153 it dominates the low end very well. And it looks better than the 900 to boot

Gab124: SL 600 + TB-153 =

Are you guys using 4ohm or 8ohm TB153's?

 

[Tunaman]

Personally I'll take my Pre\Power setup vs go this route.

Its nice the option of the SL simple unit but this seems too much to me, IMO. Bet it sounds great & works though.

 

[Bassguy1]

Chef, not sure how often you get to St Louis but we rehearse in one of the (many) rooms in the old Lemp brewery downtown. Man, that place is huge, and spooky.

I live in the St. Louis area..maybe we can hook up sometime.

 

[KJung]

I live in the St. Louis area..maybe we can hook up sometime.

All these St. Louis guys! I gig there regularly (spent all my full time playing years in St. Louis in the 80's/90's, and still come in to play regularly). Hope I get to meet some of you sometime.

 

[ko stradivarius]

All these St. Louis guys! I gig there regularly (spent all my full time playing years in St. Louis in the 80's/90's, and still come in to play regularly). Hope I get to meet some of you sometime.

Sweet! Let us know next time you're in town. OK back to the topic I reckon.

 

[Mooch]

Its here! Wooo, now to wait for it to warm up to room temp and I'm off like a prom dress.

 

[Gab124]

Are you guys using 4ohm or 8ohm TB153's?

I use a 4ohm, great cab and good price is icing. I think the 15/6/1 style is a great match with the SL since both have a definite extension in highs and lows. I run the tweet about 25-50 on the SL since the highs are so smooth on this amp.