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Genzler Amplification Club

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Just thought I’d drop in and let you all know I’ve got the big rig cooking again.

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Dan Robbins said:
Anyone compare the BA-210-3 original version with the newer series 2?

or the BA-15-3 with the newer series 2?

or the BA-410-3 with S2?

I hear a pretty big difference with the 10 inch version but I haven’t tried the others.
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I’ve reviewed the 410-3 and 15-3 on here. There are alot of reviews and posts that address the differences!
Check it out here: Genzler Amplification Club
 
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Joeykun said:
I’ve reviewed the 410-3 and 15-3 on here. There are alot of reviews and posts that address the differences!
Check it out here: Genzler Amplification Club
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Thanks so much! That’s like the only one I don’t have yet… I might have to just pull the trigger for the ultimate one cab solution, like you said…

I also noticed the increased highs, and deeper lows with my two different
BA-10 cab versions. And actually, I think they complement each other nicely like you said.
 
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Dan Robbins said:
Anyone compare the BA-210-3 original version with the newer series 2?

or the BA-15-3 with the newer series 2?

or the BA-410-3 with S2?

I hear a pretty big difference with the 10 inch version but I haven’t tried the others.
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I don't have an exact cabinet match, but in comparing the BA-15-3 S2 with the BA-12-3 S1, the high end sound and dispersion is pretty noticeable. And yes, they do complement each other quite nicely. Maybe at some point I'll replace one of the 12s with a S2 to have the improved high end closer to my ears, but it's not a pressing need.
 
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edwinhurwitz said:
I agree. I love the sound of my bass that comes out of the MG350 head into my IEMs (and to the FOH- at last Sunday's gig I put some half-round strings on my TBX 6 and the sound was huge. Since going to the MG350 from Alembic and Groove Tubes preamps, a lot of people of commented on the great tone), but the cabinets just don't project the clarity. It's a struggle for gigs where I don't get to use my ears.

It would be nice if we could boost the high end output of the cabinet without affecting what goes to FOH. I always have my send post-EQ.
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Any suggestion in pedals that can help get that alembic tone? I seen AMT makes a pedal
With a tube in it. I run the genzler magellan 800 head with a Spector Euro with if that helps I love the alembic tone. I also
Love the tone of the Avalon DI that slight tube grind feel
 
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agedhorse said:
Since I'm one of those experienced FOH engineers, I see it from both sides. At the higher level, generally the bass tone has already been sorted out in a way that's a good compromise to fit into the band mix. There are some exceptions that I can think of where the player was struggling to hear their rig on stage and eq'd it so they could hear better but that resulted in problems with their signal because the issues on stage did not exist in the house and in this case either a compromise is worked out or the band mix will suffer.

At the lower end, many players are essentially clueless about how a bass (or guitar) tone needs to fit into a mix. A tone that sounds "wonderful" solo in a bedroom may not be a good choice in a mix in a live room, and these are (IME) the players who will argue the most but could also benefit the most from listening to experience. This is one of the few reasons why I stuck with the touring acts, I didn't need to be on the receiving end of attitude from a player who did not yet know what they didn't know and wouldn't listen to reason from somebody far more experienced then they were. My job was to make the band sound as good as possible, within the limitations of the players, and when the band sabotages their own show because they don't know better, it's no fun to be in the hot seat listening to complains independent of the PA being on or off.

A mix has time and space. It has time so that everything doesn't happen at once and it has space so it doesn't happen on top of itself.
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So as a mid level guy working mid level
Venues now but getting bigger. A bigger festival stages a road tech blended my signal at the festival we played when he micd my 15” an then blended it with my DI? Do most people do this a lot? Pros an cons? It was the most I’ve heard myself in the mix in the house. It reallt showed off the channel
2. I use to be I LOVE With channel 1 but as said what sounds good in bedroom
An what sounds bad in bedroom
Might sound ripping in band levels much like I kinda feel but the second channel of Magellan channel one Lower volumes
Sounds so much better generally speaking but turning it up things Change again. I changed from guitsr to bass an I awhile back when I found bass was my home an it’s been a learning lesson the difference in tone an what the “chase is” people want.
 
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Does anyone use the DI pedal along with using the DI on head? Im sure this is almost rhetorical but does it give you a lot more flexibility?

I’m tryin to get that clean point of break tone that some Tube style preamps get like alembic. It doesn’t need to be that good but I was thinking genzler 2 distoriont pedals might have it! I def have learned have a LPF with your distortion is really nice! really nice and I’d damn near call it crucial but that’s just me. As said I don’t want that all time distorted tone I’ve finally locked in an it’s that more tube sounding but not super driven. The Avalon U5 di sounds amazing too. Im still
Wondering if the genzler pedals with the extra contour buttons on the di an more eq an the distortion box could get me
There.
 
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Jeff Genzler (L) and Andy Field (R) recently got together at Andy's shop to talk pedals and old times they've shared over the past 30+ years of friendship and product design.

Together, with Genzler Amplification engineer Scott Andres, Genzler Amplification has brought out 4 unique and feature-laden effect pedals and preamps for bassists!

For more information check out:
https://www.genzleramplification.com
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Ha!! I appreciate the fun comments. It has been a long and winding road between Andy and me.
When I first started Genz Benz in the garage, he was one of my first customers and I started building carpeted racks for his sound company gear, then cabs, then custom line array systems, then eventually we got into amps together and then some and then some.
That all started back around the mid 1980's. I think we're doing all right for riding all those miles together.
 
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Yes, after almost 40 years and a wild ride of developing new products and technologies, we remain very good friends and collaborators.

Sadly, it seems to be the exception to the rule in this industry because 40 years is like "forever".
 
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