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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

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Funny personal story involving Lydia Pense:

My husband just loves her, but he's mainly a jazz and blues guy and his knowledge of rock history is razor thin. I have a fair bit of rock history under my belt, so I am often playing old music that he isn't familiar with.

One day I was playing something- I forget exactly what- but Steve Marriott was the vocalist. My husband came in and was complaining about how horrible his voice was (!).

I happen to think that he's one of the best blues singers the UK ever produced, but hubby just HATED him.

A few weeks later he started playing something with Lydia Pense and I realized at that point that she'd taken an enormous amount of influence from Stevie Marriott (or else they both took influence from the same place) and has a very similar voice and delivery. I pointed this out to him.

We love the things we're familiar with, don't we? But when those things come to us out of context, we sometimes react very differently. Life is funny that way.

Yep. I saw Cold Blood as an opening act way way back when. My money would be on her and Marriott just both having the same influences, but I would expect there to have been mutual admiration going on in any case. He was fab when I saw him play with Humble Pie too.

And I did something pretty radical last night: I went and saw a current act I've never seen before, Gunhild Carling, in the big city at the PDX Jazz Festival. I've posted vids here of her work a few times; she's best known for playing many horns well, jazz bagpipes, and her Postmodern Jukebox stints. The venue was a new-ish small jazz club right downtown, with easy parking right across the street, a huge food cart pod on the next block, and standard bar food in the 10 dollar range available from the big pool hall/bar upstairs. The club books a lot of burlesque acts and it wouldn't have been at all surprising for Ms. Carling to have brought in her family band and go all three ring circus, which is kind of her specialty. So my wife passed on the show because she doesn't dig Vaudeville acts, and I went with my neighbor. But when the band lineup was released a few days before the show it was just three local Portland guys, and only one name I really recognized.

The show was billed for doors at 7, and we allowed for about a twenty minute buffer, hoping that would be enough to get one of the limited amount of tables. There was a short lineup when we arrived, maybe 20-25 people in front of us. But somehow none of those people took all the front row tables, and we got a two-top about ten feet away from the lead vocal mic position. We noticed that there were only a couple of horns on stage, and just a very spare setting. Personally, I liked where this was going. Then after the first tune Gunhild mentioned that her general theme for the night was going to be "Louis and Ella." So yeah, mostly classic straight ahead jazz with a great trio backup, no rehearsal, band members meet each other for the first time on stage at sound check. I recognized the upright bass player by face as someone I mixed backing up a touring Diva several years ago, apparently this is a specialty of his. Never heard a single misstep from him all evening. The keyboard player was pretty young and later told us he was barely hanging on all night, but Gunhild herself made most of the (very subtle) mistakes, and those just came down to on the fly arrangements and her wanting to give us the best possible readings. So, a mulligan or two on count-ins, no biggie. The drummer was uncanny at nailing feels and count-ins off a single sung vocal phrase or foot tap sequence, just crazy for no rehearsal.

And then Ms. Carling herself is a real force. I've never seen a better trombone player, for starters. And in many tunes she backed that up with great trumpet solos as well. The mind boggles at singing like that, transitioning to a few different horn solos, and then back to vocals, never seeming out of breath. And then throw in a little tap dancing, costume changes, a lot of hilarious vocal patter, and two long sets, including half a dozen new self written original tunes and yes, bagpipes. All this and more for twenty bucks plus the service charge, sweet!

I made it a point to talk to the people around us during the set break. Every single one found Ms. Carling via YouTube, and the show was clearly sold out. Nice to see the brave new world working out for someone worthy, at least.
 
Yep. I saw Cold Blood as an opening act way way back when. My money would be on her and Marriott just both having the same influences, but I would expect there to have been mutual admiration going on in any case. He was fab when I saw him play with Humble Pie too.

And I did something pretty radical last night: I went and saw a current act I've never seen before, Gunhild Carling, in the big city at the PDX Jazz Festival. I've posted vids here of her work a few times; she's best known for playing many horns well, jazz bagpipes, and her Postmodern Jukebox stints. The venue was a new-ish small jazz club right downtown, with easy parking right across the street, a huge food cart pod on the next block, and standard bar food in the 10 dollar range available from the big pool hall/bar upstairs. The club books a lot of burlesque acts and it wouldn't have been at all surprising for Ms. Carling to have brought in her family band and go all three ring circus, which is kind of her specialty. So my wife passed on the show because she doesn't dig Vaudeville acts, and I went with my neighbor. But when the band lineup was released a few days before the show it was just three local Portland guys, and only one name I really recognized.

The show was billed for doors at 7, and we allowed for about a twenty minute buffer, hoping that would be enough to get one of the limited amount of tables. There was a short lineup when we arrived, maybe 20-25 people in front of us. But somehow none of those people took all the front row tables, and we got a two-top about ten feet away from the lead vocal mic position. We noticed that there were only a couple of horns on stage, and just a very spare setting. Personally, I liked where this was going. Then after the first tune Gunhild mentioned that her general theme for the night was going to be "Louis and Ella." So yeah, mostly classic straight ahead jazz with a great trio backup, no rehearsal, band members meet each other for the first time on stage at sound check. I recognized the upright bass player by face as someone I mixed backing up a touring Diva several years ago, apparently this is a specialty of his. Never heard a single misstep from him all evening. The keyboard player was pretty young and later told us he was barely hanging on all night, but Gunhild herself made most of the (very subtle) mistakes, and those just came down to on the fly arrangements and her wanting to give us the best possible readings. So, a mulligan or two on count-ins, no biggie. The drummer was uncanny at nailing feels and count-ins off a single sung vocal phrase or foot tap sequence, just crazy for no rehearsal.

And then Ms. Carling herself is a real force. I've never seen a better trombone player, for starters. And in many tunes she backed that up with great trumpet solos as well. The mind boggles at singing like that, transitioning to a few different horn solos, and then back to vocals, never seeming out of breath. And then throw in a little tap dancing, costume changes, a lot of hilarious vocal patter, and two long sets, including half a dozen new self written original tunes and yes, bagpipes. All this and more for twenty bucks plus the service charge, sweet!

I made it a point to talk to the people around us during the set break. Every single one found Ms. Carling via YouTube, and the show was clearly sold out. Nice to see the brave new world working out for someone worthy, at least.

She’s on a long lonely road from home.
 
She’s on a long lonely road from home.

True, but at least she lives in the Bay Area these days, and it's a pretty easy direct flight.
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It's at the Fillmore West 51 years ago (today) the Grateful Dead put the 16 track in motion to record the versions of Dark Star and St. Stephen for the double album Live Dead.

Someone gave me the box set of board recordings from that run of shows. Sure beats the multi generation reel to reel versions we all passed around in the early 70s. And as I'm pretty sure you know, the Live Dead version of Dark Star is reputedly a mash-up done from a few different shows.
 
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Yep me too, the original mix. But for your perusal: Grateful Dead Guide: Dark Star: A Tale of Four Mixes

Thems whut reason Betty Boards are still considered top drawer.

What has my attention in the article is just how very carefully people listen.

And remembering it's that careful listening we hone figuring these parts out. So there's that thingy on the gear in the 'Tube window to slow it down, there's variable speed turntables, and good old drop the needle again and again.

In unrelated news there's a walnut Junior Jet on its way to the lady whose tummy heals. That green one sure is enticing, too, black ones can be found.
 
Also see the Junior Jet is Volume - Tone + 3 way switch. Seems simple enough, if not a touch inelegant. Not that I really understand how my own V-V T-T + 3 way switch actually works. Near as I can figure the tone knobs are for when I engage a single pickup? And guess that kind of makes sense if I squint. I might be a good candidate for Junior Jet electronics, don't hurt muh brain
 
The switch on mine is Neck Only - Both - Bridge Only

When both are selected and zero out the neck pickup, the bass is muted. Varying degrees of volume of each pickup seem to have more effect than twiddling the tone knobs.

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what have / had we here, then?
 
The switch on mine is Neck Only - Both - Bridge Only

When both are selected and zero out the neck pickup, the bass is muted. Varying degrees of volume of each pickup seem to have more effect than twiddling the tone knobs.
So, it's wired up sort of like a LP? Great for guitar, not so much for bass, IMO. Relatively easy to fix.
 
Near as I can gather, yes, wired like a Les Paul. I'd like to replace the toggle. Also know a pair of TV Jones can be dropped in as a (close) fit. Luthier's hand required. The stockers are Artec. The swap to TV Jones certainly sounds like a good idea. Whether it is or isn't is unclear to me. Upgrading the pots, well, nobody really wants to go digging around a semi-hollowbody for that job (okay, I don't, and lack the tools, knowledge, skill, desire to attempt "at home" kids). If I'm gonna do it, I figure, one job, pots and pickups and call it smrt
 
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