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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

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^ the mark of a dirtball :) (and they'll never see it)
...sadly for the rest of us it's most certainly a trademark move that is rarely if ever executed with subtlety. Of course mileage varies as do dirtball self aggrandizement techniques, however they all do seem to have a distinctly rotten fish smell to them.
 
In 67, while aboard a very large, nuclear powered carrier*, I-as an MU3-had a "final top secret" clearance.:eyebrow: Some of the [stuff] I read gave me pause back then:jawdrop:. I think I'm just as happy I don't have access to any of that now.

* the only one at the time
NOTE: A documentary was released some time ago that speaks to much of what follows, so I'm spilling no restricted beans.

If only peeps knew some of what went on during the cold war. My clearance was T/S Crypto (tactical intel and German translator, 7th Army). I was TDY'd to the U.S. facility on Teufelsberg in Berlin (there were also separate French and British facilities). Most of it was radio intercept, but I was seconded to the 'bug' room (all of the old phoneline bugs put in before the wall went up), which, in a very secure facility, was behind bars, past an MP and then through a bank vault door. My first two days in there were spent reading the log books kept in a safe inside this really secure area (only the OD had the combination).

Holy smokes! Stuff going all the way back to '48. And what I learned about the Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia in '68 helped me understand why I, personally, had been sent there (my ancestors emigrated from the region that was home to Russia's 2nd Shock Division (the ones who invaded)).

I have NEVER read a military novel that was such an exciting read. And it was all written in the most boring Armyese imaginable.

I don't know about you, @GonePlaid, but I got stuck with 20 years of travel restrictions after I got out. Prohibited countries. Airlines. Even the Berlin subway.

I happened to be in Berlin on business for the 3rd Wiedervereinigungstag (Tag der Deutschen Einheit; Reunification Day) on 3 October, 1992. It was so nice to be able to stay in the former East Berlin and walk the Linden Straße and hang out with a million people when the leaders spoke (including Clinton) and watch the unveiling of the renovated Brandenburger Tor.
 
Jeez, you guys. My clearance was so low I wasn't even allowed to know where I was, let alone what I was doing. LT just said, "pick that up and follow me"... "shoot that way". The assumption seemed to be that if I ever found out my name, I'd run and tell it to the nearest NVA intel officer. Concurrent with this was the assumption that we could never be allowed liberty of more than 12 hours, since we'd all have to be retrained from scratch afterwards. I understand that people in the Navy now accuse Marines of eating all the crayons.
 
Prior to Froggy and Midnight, Andy Devine* was Hopalong Cassidy's sidekick "Jingles".

* Why does "Devine" make me think of this?

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Jeez, you guys. My clearance was so low I wasn't even allowed to know where I was, let alone what I was doing. LT just said, "pick that up and follow me"... "shoot that way". The assumption seemed to be that if I ever found out my name, I'd run and tell it to the nearest NVA intel officer. Concurrent with this was the assumption that we could never be allowed liberty of more than 12 hours, since we'd all have to be retrained from scratch afterwards. I understand that people in the Navy now accuse Marines of eating all the crayons.
You weren't the Motorola tech we had to fly to Northern Ireland on a private jet without telling him where he was going, were you? Or why you were surrounded by a military SWAT team on arrival and taken to your work location? And then brought back to the jet and flown back to the U.S. without ever being told where we'd sent you?

If so, now you know! :roflmao:
 
That it may be clear, my experience of Andy Devine is second hand via the Merry Pranksters.

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NOTE: A documentary was released some time ago that speaks to much of what follows, so I'm spilling no restricted beans.

If only peeps knew some of what went on during the cold war. My clearance was T/S Crypto (tactical intel and German translator, 7th Army). I was TDY'd to the U.S. facility on Teufelsberg in Berlin (there were also separate French and British facilities). Most of it was radio intercept, but I was seconded to the 'bug' room (all of the old phoneline bugs put in before the wall went up), which, in a very secure facility, was behind bars, past an MP and then through a bank vault door. My first two days in there were spent reading the log books kept in a safe inside this really secure area (only the OD had the combination).

Holy smokes! Stuff going all the way back to '48. And what I learned about the Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia in '68 helped me understand why I, personally, had been sent there (my ancestors emigrated from the region that was home to Russia's 2nd Shock Division (the ones who invaded)).

I have NEVER read a military novel that was such an exciting read. And it was all written in the most boring Armyese imaginable.

I don't know about you, @GonePlaid, but I got stuck with 20 years of travel restrictions after I got out. Prohibited countries. Airlines. Even the Berlin subway.

I happened to be in Berlin on business for the 3rd Wiedervereinigungstag (Tag der Deutschen Einheit; Reunification Day) on 3 October, 1992. It was so nice to be able to stay in the former East Berlin and walk the Linden Straße and hang out with a million people when the leaders spoke (including Clinton) and watch the unveiling of the renovated Brandenburger Tor.

In 1975, were informed in Baumholder Germany that we were going on a maneuver. We loaded up all of our duffle bag field gear and all the artillery and support vehicles were loaded on trains. We sat for almost ane entire day in the cars in field gear awaiting orders. The brass were very upset--this was not a drill. Large groups of helicopters flew overhead and aircraft activity in the air, even into the night. Finally after the sun set, we spent the night unloading the trains of all the gear and returned to our dormitories (I lived on base). Whatever happened that week sounded pretty scary. Both the Soviet Union and the US engaged in what was referred to as provactive activity and I think we were very close to do some sort of 'show of force' somewhere near the East German border. I was young and we scoffed and laughed it off--you know, young and indestructible. I still wonder what happened in 1975 that almost activated the 8th Infantry an entire day, then to be returned to base that evening. Did we dodge a bullet?

Every day the special forces and CIA conduct covert operations that we will never hear about--many times saving American lives in the homeland and overseas. Whenever there is a foreign incident, our forces are there to protect any Americans working in the region. We've got to have the best overseas insurance of any country for our American citizens.
 
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In 1975, were informed in Baumholder Germany that we were going on a maneuver. We loaded up all of our duffle bag field gear and all the artillery and support vehicles were loaded on trains. We sat for almost ane entire day in the cars in field gear awaiting orders. The brass were very upset--this was not a drill. Large groups of helicopters flew overhead and aircraft activity in the air, even into the night. Finally after the sun set, we spent the night unloading the trains of all the gear and returned to our dormitories (I lived on base). Whatever happened that week sounded pretty scary. Both the Soviet Union and the US engaged in what was referred to as provactive activity and i think we were very close to do some sort of 'show of force' somewhere near the East German border. I was young and we soffed and laughed it off--you know, young and indestructible. I still wonder what happened in 1975 that almost activated the 8th Infantry an entire day, then to be returned to base that evening. Did we dodge a bullet?

Every day the special forces and CIA conduct covert operations that we will never hear about--many times saving American lives in the homeland and overseas. Whenever there is a foreign incident, our forces are there to protect any Americans working in the region. We've got to have the best overseas insurance of any country for our American citizens.
I don't know about '75, but I can tell you that I was less than 48 hours away from being sent to Pakistan in '71. Remember the war between India and Pakistan in '71? And India making friends with the Sovs trying to get nuclear power plants? And Pakistan losing in a major offensive and Bangladesh being created from East Pakistan?

Yeah, fun times.

And peeps wonder how we can still are friendly with Pakistan.

I've always wondered if we were spooled up in Europe just so it could be "leaked". India mounted its offensive quickly. Saved me a trip to the danger zone.
 
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