Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[beans-on-toast]

What they need to do is hire some Disney lawyers.
Mickey’s team doesn’t £8€# around.

Seriously...

Since emerging from bankruptcy a year ago, the Gibson lawyers are taking everyone to court.

 

[Jeff Scott]

Since emerging from bankruptcy a year ago, the Gibson lawyers are taking everyone to court.

And they want blood from everybody - manufacturers, dealers, film/TV makers, even the buying public!

 

[beans-on-toast]

What percentage of Floridians work for The Mouse (shorthand I immediately understand), do you reckon? Do they have properties outside of the Orlando area?

A lot of Disney IT contractors work in India.

 

[Haroldo]

Our house was built in 1917, and there was a lot of deferred maintenance that we've had to deal with. Everything was painted white, and the kitchen was a real mess.

There were some vestiges of what it could have looked like back when it was new (an original pendant light in the inner foyer, door and window casing details, etc. So when we got around to doing the reno work we went with a combination of Craftsman and Prairie School for all the new woodwork/trim/casings, etc., plus the new fireplace mantel and dining room wainscot (which the house never had). We did have to gut most everything to bring up to code the electrical and plumbing, add insulation, all that kind of stuff, but what we now have is much better and way more in keeping with the character of a house of its age.

Yes, we have (off) white kitchen cabinets (Amish custom built), but that is appropriate for the era. And, we did take down one wall, and slightly rearranged a couple others up in the attic to make it into a far more functional room, and it now has a very Craftsman style staircase railing that replaced an out-of-code 22" high knee wall going around the stairwell). We did remove/replace a couple of doors, but we added two more back that had been languishing in the basement since 1961 (repurposing those two swinging French doors into pocket doors, although the swinging kitchen-dining room door is still down there!). If we get around to doing the upstairs back sleeping porch, that had been poorly enclosed in the 1940s, into the home office/birdwatching station we'd like, a couple of the doors we had removed (attic eaves access doors) into doors for a built-in cabinet.

We do have a white painted brick fireplace, but there wasn't much we could have done about that. The rug-faced brick would have been destroyed if we sandblasted to paint of (the only way for this type of brick) so we just repainted it so it looked better. There are lots of examples of white (and other colors) brick fireplaces in many Craftsman homes so we just made sure it still looks good. After we win the Lottery (uh huh!) we may tile the face of it (some excellent resources for that - my first choice would be from here:

Pasadena Craftsman Tile

Was it from the Sears Catalog? (I am enamored of the fact one could purchase homes from those folks.)

 

[Haroldo]

A lot of Disney IT contractors work in India.

A lot of everbody's IT contractors work in India!

I was curious about FL in particular (and too lazy to investigate on my own).

 

[GonePlaid]

What percentage of Floridians work for The Mouse (shorthand I immediately understand), do you reckon? Do they have properties outside of the Orlando area?

No clue on the percentage but they have a lotta employees("cast members"). Plus you have Universal and Sea World all right there in Orlando and Busch Gardens in Tampa. Disney also has a beach resort in Vero Beach and a nature preserve south of Orlando.

 

[Haroldo]

And they want blood from everybody - manufacturers, dealers, film/TV makers, even the buying public!

I'm only interested in used Gibson products as a result. (I especially don't understand their strategy with respect to playing their instruments on film or TV. It strikes me as crazily short-sighted, though it could be a tipoff as to what the new venture capitalist owner are planning to do.)

ETA: I like smash 'n' grab as much as the next guy, but we're seeing far too much of it these days.

 

[Jeff Scott]

Was it from the Sears Catalog? (I am enamored of the fact one could purchase homes from those folks.)

Not that we know of, it was most likely a local contractor build. We have a document with various parcel and permit numbers, the name of the contractor, and the name of the first owner. Theresa Brautigam loved deep green, as all the outside window casings are/were green, along with a green and cream tile floor in the outer foyer. Maybe Morrighan knew her (or more likely, her descendants ).

Here is a photo of said foyer floor, since been replaced with a new tile floor, given the structural problems in that area (we did keep a section of the original floor, mounted on 3" of concrete).

 

[beans-on-toast]

Our house was built in 1917, and there was a lot of deferred maintenance that we've had to deal with. Everything was painted white, and the kitchen was a real mess.

There were some vestiges of what it could have looked like back when it was new (an original pendant light in the inner foyer, door and window casing details, etc. So when we got around to doing the reno work we went with a combination of Craftsman and Prairie School for all the new woodwork/trim/casings, etc., plus the new fireplace mantel and dining room wainscot (which the house never had). We did have to gut most everything to bring up to code the electrical and plumbing, add insulation, all that kind of stuff, but what we now have is much better and way more in keeping with the character of a house of its age.

Yes, we have (off) white kitchen cabinets (Amish custom built), but that is appropriate for the era. And, we did take down one wall, and slightly rearranged a couple others up in the attic to make it into a far more functional room, and it now has a very Craftsman style staircase railing that replaced an out-of-code 22" high knee wall going around the stairwell). We did remove/replace a couple of doors, but we added two more back that had been languishing in the basement since 1961 (repurposing those two swinging French doors into pocket doors, although the swinging kitchen-dining room door is still down there!). If we get around to doing the upstairs back sleeping porch, that had been poorly enclosed in the 1940s, into the home office/birdwatching station we'd like, a couple of the doors we had removed (attic eaves access doors) into doors for a built-in cabinet.

We do have a white painted brick fireplace, but there wasn't much we could have done about that. The rug-faced brick would have been destroyed if we sandblasted to paint of (the only way for this type of brick) so we just repainted it so it looked better. There are lots of examples of white (and other colors) brick fireplaces in many Craftsman homes so we just made sure it still looks good. After we win the Lottery (uh huh!) we may tile the face of it (some excellent resources for that - my first choice would be from here:

Pasadena Craftsman Tile

I have no doubt from your previously posted images that your renovations are performed with taste and respectful the original intent. But there are renovations and there are renovations.

We passed by two circa 1900 homes today that were undergoing complete renovations. Both were completely gutted inside. There was a lot of beautiful wood trim and radiators in the dumpster. The only thing that they were keeping was the shell. It’s sad to see.

These are the type of houses that I was referring to earlier. Completely modern inside, looking no different inside from a hi-rise condominium. Saw one that was gaudy white marble in the main rooms, even the walls. Like they were trying to show how much money they can throw away. The old character is completely lost.

As I said, my tastes are not what most people are looking for these days.

 

[Haroldo]

I have no doubt from your previously posted images that your renovations are performed with taste and respectful the original intent. But there are renovations and there are renovations.

We passed by two circa 1900 homes today that were undergoing complete renovations. Both were completely gutted inside. There was a lot of beautiful wood trim and radiators in the dumpster. The only thing that they were keeping was the shell. It’s sad to see.

These are the type of houses that I was referring to earlier. Completely modern inside, looking no different inside from a hi-rise condominium. Saw one that was gaudy white marble in the main rooms, even the walls. Like they were trying to show how much money they can throw away. The old character is completely lost.

It's a sad and discouraging thing to see. Money can't buy taste, unfortunately.

 

[Haroldo]

Well sadly I won't have an HPF tonight but I will be very conscious of my use of the bass EQ. We are doing some gigs throughout the summer and I'll gladly have one for the next time. Rolling off my bass on my small amp was a real eye-opener. Everyone at the rehearsal said my tiny little MB108 sounded excellent. Good advice to be heeded by @Stumbo !

How did the laying of the boogie go down?

 

[Jeff Scott]

I have no doubt from your previously posted images that your renovations are performed with taste and respectful the original intent. But there are renovations and there are renovations.

We passed by two circa 1900 homes today that were undergoing complete renovations. Both were completely gutted inside. There was a lot of beautiful wood trim and radiators in the dumpster. The only thing that they were keeping was the shell. It’s sad to see.

These are the type of houses that I was referring to earlier. Completely modern inside, looking no different inside from a hi-rise condominium. Saw one that was gaudy white marble in the main rooms, even the walls. Like they were trying to show how much money they can throw away. The old character is completely lost.

As I said, my tastes are not what most people are looking for these days.

Yeah, I know what you are saying. It is sad that those kinds of people don't just go buy a modern house, it would be less expensive in the long run. The same goes for house flippers, most are putting the least amount into these fine old houses and the results speak for themselves.

 

[LBS-bass]

Yeah, I know what you are saying. It is sad that those kinds of people don't just go buy a modern house, it would be less expensive in the long run. The same goes for house flippers, most are putting the least amount into these fine old houses and the results speak for themselves.

A lot of the old Victorians in the Bay Area were gutted and "modernized" inside like that. Makes me want to cry.

 

[GwenOnBass]

It's a sad and discouraging thing to see. Money can't buy taste, unfortunately.

This has been true of British royalty since the Plantagenet kings .... :: runs, ducks, covers ::

 

[Haroldo]

This has been true of British royalty since the Plantagenet kings .... :: runs, ducks, covers ::

You are not lying.

ETA: Tho' I'm Orange by blood, I'm Green by temperament.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Yeah, I know what you are saying. It is sad that those kinds of people don't just go buy a modern house, it would be less expensive in the long run. The same goes for house flippers, most are putting the least amount into these fine old houses and the results speak for themselves.

Yes, very true. I think it’s about the location, they don’t care about the heritage.

Some flippers do things on the cheap which is even worse.

 

[shadowtippy]

Was it from the Sears Catalog? (I am enamored of the fact one could purchase homes from those folks.)

My doctor's house was ordered from Sears. I'll try to drive by and get a pic of it.

 

[Passinwind]

Hey did you see someone not associated in any way with The Bonzo Doo Dah Dog Band took their trademark without their knowledge? They're pretty angry, what with not being able to gig for income to fight the court fight. At the moment they're The Bonzo Doo Dah Dog Banned.

A couple of my roomies and best friends back in VT were way into those guys. I've often thought of working up a cover version of this one:

 

[LBS-bass]

A couple of my roomies and best friends back in VT were way into those guys. I've often thought of working up a cover version of this one:

Somehow I can envision your avatar singing that one.

 

[Haroldo]

A couple of my roomies and best friends back in VT were way into those guys. I've often thought of working up a cover version of this one:

And I could probably listen to 'The Intro and the Outro' forever, tho' truth be told I've never put this to the test.