GIBSON Club. Part II

[redstrand]

My slighty modded DC. Lovin this little beastie. Might put a thunderbucker in it

 

[Nocturnal]

Thanks!

Oh yeah, I keep some DeOxit spray around. I guess the trick is getting it where it'll do any good.

I have been using this Fader Lube rather than cleaner lately. Some people claim that contact cleaner can eventually damage internal workings of a pot, but no clue if its true. I have been using this on several applications and it has gotten rid of scratchy pots on basses and amps. A friend used this lube on the pots that were cutting out on a very old Les Paul JR. Problem has not returned since. As always, YMMV.

https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-F5S-H6-...argid=aud-801381245258:pla-403917107227&psc=1

 

[aproud1]

I have been using this Fader Lube rather than cleaner lately. Some people claim that contact cleaner can eventually damage internal workings of a pot, but no clue if its true. I have been using this on several applications and it has gotten rid of scratchy pots on basses and amps. A friend used this lube on the pots that were cutting out on a very old Les Paul JR. Problem has not returned since. As always, YMMV.

https://www.amazon.com/Hosa-F5S-H6-...argid=aud-801381245258:pla-403917107227&psc=1

Deoxit (the variety I and I think most people around here use) has similar lubrication properties.

it is a very good point you make that many need reminding of.

 

[Nocturnal]

Deoxit (the variety I and I think most people around here use) has similar lubrication properties.

it is a very good point you make that many need reminding of.

Do you use Hosa D5S-6 Caig DeoxIT cleaner? That sounds like a cleaner/lube that is a good alternative to the fader lube I linked to. I will pick that up next time I need to order a new can.

 

[aproud1]

Do you use Hosa D5S-6 Caig DeoxIT cleaner? That sounds like a cleaner/lube that is a good alternative to the fader lube I linked to. I will pick that up next time I need to order a new can.

That's the one. Looks like either would work. Guess the D5 isn't as lubey.

 

[gustophersmob]

Thanks!

Oh yeah, I keep some DeOxit spray around. I guess the trick is getting it where it'll do any good.

most pots I’ve seen have a gap between the metal case and where the posts are attached. See pic.

 

[RexxRokket]

Hi there mates,

I want to get rid of the noisy Bartolini TCT preamp that came with my Gibson Les Paul Bass (early 90s). Has someone here done it before?

I also would like to know if I need to buy something else like new pots, capacitors, wires, jacks, etc. I think that it is not really necessary to get anything since the pots are already 500k each and the instrument jack... is just a jack... maybe a capacitor?

Thanks in advance!

 

[aproud1]

Hi there mates,

I want to get rid of the noisy Bartolini TCT preamp that came with my Gibson Les Paul Bass (early 90s). Has someone here done it before?

I also would like to know if I need to buy something else like new pots, capacitors, wires, jacks, etc. I think that it is not really necessary to get anything since the pots are already 500k each and the instrument jack... is just a jack... maybe a capacitor?

Thanks in advance!

Do you want to go with passive controls or replace with another preamp?

 

[RexxRokket]

Do you want to go with passive controls or replace with another preamp?

First I was thinking of getting a switch so I could bypass the preamp without getting rid of it, but now I think that I would rather just go fully passive.

 

[aproud1]

First I was thinking of getting a switch so I could bypass the preamp without getting rid of it, but now I think that I would rather just go fully passive.

Adding an active/passive switch shouldn't be too bad. If you think you would use in passive more often I personally would just pull all the electronics and do all new passive controls. You could just rewire and re-use you current pots and just add a cap. For the money I would go all new (especially if the bass isn't new). Either way can be done.

 

[RexxRokket]

Adding an active/passive switch shouldn't be too bad. If you think you would use in passive more often I personally would just pull all the electronics and do all new passive controls. You could just rewire and re-use you current pots and just add a cap. For the money I would go all new (especially if the bass isn't new). Either way can be done.

I would go all new indeed, but all the electronics are in good shape. I just need to take the preamp out and just put a capacitor in and that's it then?

 

[aproud1]

Depends on how it is wired. Is it similar to this?

Guessing you have four knobs and no mid pot you would need to wire like this:

 

[Nocturnal]

I used to own a Gibson LP Standard bass that had a Bart preamp in it. I wanted the ability to go passive with it so changed the tone pot to a push/pull pot. It allowed me to switch between active/passive without adding any new switches or holes to the bass. That was a good 10 years ago so I don't remember how it was wired up, just that it was a long shaft on the pot due to the arched top of the LP shape.

I briefly owned this LP bass with a flat top. Had thought about gutting it and making it all passive but didn't own it long enough to get to that. Great bass but I traded it towards something else.

 

[RexxRokket]

Depends on how it is wired. Is it similar to this?

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Guessing you have four knobs and no mid pot you would need to wire like this:

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Yes, it is the 4 knob one 500k pot each. The preamp is a Bartolini TCT.

 

[RexxRokket]

I used to own a Gibson LP Standard bass that had a Bart preamp in it. I wanted the ability to go passive with it so changed the tone pot to a push/pull pot. It allowed me to switch between active/passive without adding any new switches or holes to the bass. That was a good 10 years ago so I don't remember how it was wired up, just that it was a long shaft on the pot due to the arched top of the LP shape.

I briefly owned this LP bass with a flat top. Had thought about gutting it and making it all passive but didn't own it long enough to get to that. Great bass but I traded it towards something else.

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Hey man, thanks. I have the other model which has the black plastic covers on it and it has the tb+ and the Bartolini preamp. Yes, I think that what you say could be an option as well, but isn't it better go fully passive? I mean the tone will be the same when bypassed to passive as if will be completely passive?

 

[Nocturnal]

Hey man, thanks. I have the other model which has the black plastic covers on it and it has the tb+ and the Bartolini preamp. Yes, I think that what you say could be an option as well, but isn't it better go fully passive? I mean the tone will be the same when bypassed to passive as if will be completely passive?

"Better" depends on the sound you like but I find that some onboard preamps do not give me what I am after so most of my basses are passive.

I would think the bypassed passive and the completely passive options would sound pretty much identical.

 

[hieronymous]

I recently listened to some stuff I recorded with my Les Paul Triumph going on 9 years ago now and thought I'd share them here, with pics of course!

Here it is posing with The Gibson Bass Book by Rob van den Broek:

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I've had short Scale LaBella flats on it for the longest time (I don't think I put this set on, just posed them together):

Here's the track I was listening to recently:



Les Paul is through Fulltone Bass Drive, EHX Small Stone phaser for the second part, and Alembic F-2B preamp. Synths are Moog Taurus 3 (played live with bass & drums) and Micromoog overdubbed later.

 

[vates]

Great recording, thanks for sharing!

 

[EdwardofHuncote]

...my Les Paul Triumph

Woah - how'd I miss that one!? Very cool bass, and I should've known you would have one. (I think we must have come from the same crop)

I'm pretty sure that's what Jimmy J. was playing right before he got his first Alembic.

 

[hieronymous]

Thanks for listening! I compiled all the tracks I've recorded with it that I can find but can't post a playlist here so here they all are:



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And here's video:

Woah - how'd I miss that one!? Very cool bass, and I should've known you would have one. (I think we must have come from the same crop)

I'm pretty sure that's what Jimmy J. was playing right before he got his first Alembic.

I never heard that about Jimmy Johnson - very interesting! I definitely fell in love with short scales, Gibson/Guild/Alembic!