Hey, look at that! I'm a spoiled brat!

[machine gewehr]

I was talking to machine gewehr.

ERR maybe shouldn't have brought it up; but lets say for argument sake.

I bring it up because the perception that I have (rightly or wrongly) is that girls are at a disadvantage to boys in middle eastern culture. Girls are considered property, or a burden. That may also be outdated way of thinking. It tends to be the portrayal in mass media however.

That said I'm all for being called out on not having my facts straight and being told that my perceptions are misconceived. As I said I'm totally ignorant to Turkish culture and am okay to be re-adjusted in my presumptions. Perhaps Turkey isn't even considered the Middle East...more Mediterranean???

I know most of people from Europe,USA thinks Turkey is like the middle east.Its nothing like the middle east.Woman are treated equally as much as they are in the "west".Of course there are apes here too,I'm not denying it,but there are apes everywhere.

One should come here for a holiday to understand what its like.Turkey is the one and only secular government where most of the population are muslims.You can see a father going out of the church and an imam out of a mosque,then they go and havea tea together.Its a pretty good mix actually.


My city is the only place in this planet where you can cross between continents in 5 minutes come ooooon.


I read an article about "woman rights in the 1800's" and had a presentation about it today.Surprisingly I learned that,back in the day when woman had almost no rights in Europe,woman in the muslim culture (Ottoman Empire most likely) had much more rights then the woman of the west.Woman could be judges where as an Europian woman didn't have the right to be a lavyer.Go figure.


ps:With apes I mean the un-evolved sexists,racist etc.

It varies widely from family to family, rather than it being strictly cultural. 18 is the age of becoming a legal adult in the US.

It varies widely here too,I was speaking generally.
There are families who send their kids to work at the age of 5,or man/woman who spent their whole life with their parents.

 

[funkout5]

this makes me really glad i get good grades and will probably never be in this situation....

 

[tplyons]

Actually, That "18" standard is not the case anymore. Most people want to settle later in life now, closer to 26+. It's been like that starting in the late '90's.

That said, I'm giving myself the limit of 22. I need to learn independence.

I'm 22 and just moved BACK home to live with my parents. I temp for my mom's company two days a week, and when I'm home, I do the landscaping, cook three meals a week, and do a good portion of cleaning in between searching for jobs.

Basically, I'm their tenant and I'm paying rent in the form of services, and cash as well once I get a job. For most people, it's economically irresponsible to move out on their own after college, especially in my case where my parents have an extra room, and I need one.

That being said, it sounds like the OP has a lot of roadblocks, but it also sounds like you're making a lot of excuses. Have you talked to a recruiter about careers in the military? There are a lot of jobs that are off the battlefield. My dad was USAF for twenty years and was always on base in the USA or England. My mom was USAF as a weather forecaster. The military gave both my parents an education, and a job. And there are plenty of things you can do with a heart problem.

How many job applications have you filled out? Have you applied everywhere? Not just places with help wanted signs? How many people have you sent your resume unsolicited? Have you looked on craigslist for part time jobs?

I've been between jobs for six months, but have always been able to dig up a one or two day gig, usually involving labor, enough to pay my bills. Even mowing your neighbors lawns.

And the one meal you eat, how big is it? About how many calories? If under 2000 calories in a single meal, get your butt to the commissary or grocery store and buy some ramen. Not the greatest thing in the world, but it's calories.

 

[L-A]

One meal a day means significant changes to your brain's sugar supply throughout the day. Eat better, or get everything that requires thinking done in the two hours following your daily meal. Seriously.

 

[backline112]

I feel lucky I got a job. I feel lucky I got the dad I have.

I've always discarded the idea of joining the Army, it's just wrong for me. Goes against one of my core values, it's like f*ing selling your life to a politician you don't even know, whom with a simple waving of his hand, can get you killed in Iraq. Sure, you're just going to play bass in Iraq (if you're lucky and good enough) but the risks just doesn't justify the benefits for me.

AND SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH for the grammar dudes...

 

[warwick.hoy]

I know most of people from Europe,USA thinks Turkey is like the middle east.Its nothing like the middle east.Woman are treated equally as much as they are in the "west".Of course there are apes here too,I'm not denying it,but there are apes everywhere.

One should come here for a holiday to understand what its like.Turkey is the one and only secular government where most of the population are muslims.You can see a father going out of the church and an imam out of a mosque,then they go and havea tea together.Its a pretty good mix actually.


My city is the only place in this planet where you can cross between continents in 5 minutes come ooooon.


I read an article about "woman rights in the 1800's" and had a presentation about it today.Surprisingly I learned that,back in the day when woman had almost no rights in Europe,woman in the muslim culture (Ottoman Empire most likely) had much more rights then the woman of the west.Woman could be judges where as an Europian woman didn't have the right to be a lavyer.Go figure.


ps:With apes I mean the un-evolved sexists,racist etc.



It varies widely here too,I was speaking generally.
There are families who send their kids to work at the age of 5,or man/woman who spent their whole life with their parents.

I figured I was off base. I recall a program on how Saudi Arabia is becoming a little more progressive in their treatment of women, and that there is a lot of misconception. I recall specifically the fact that once women are in their home...the abayas come off and they look like any western woman. Jeans...blouse...etc. There was actually conversation that women are more empowered in Saudi culture because they aren't objectified as they are in the west. The misconceptions that we have are perpetrated by the media and ignorance...I'm all too happy to have my presumptions proven wrong.

It is enlightening to see that while things may on the surface seem way different between cultures...we are all quite similar,...just factionalized.

On Topic.

I think that generally here in the states...we are taught that if we want to live the "American Dream" then we have to apply ourselves. This isn't limited to the age of 18. In order to attend a "good college" (whatever that means) we have to excel in our primary education...(grade school, middle school, high school). We go from the time we are 5; sometimes earlier, until we are 18. This isn't the case; but it almost felt like it was a federal law. We can drop out but very few people will hire dropouts...and I don't blame them. School is the easiest time in your life...no bills, no job, no kids,...if you can't make it through ten years of that then how dedicated are you going to be when your job turns stressful for a minute or two. I have no problem with applying myself, and that is what most parents that give their kids tough love (are you reading this OP?) are trying to get them to do...apply themselves.

Once you graduate...you go to college. For me the problem with college is that in order to attend,...barring scholarships and grants...one has to take on a serious amount of debt. Some consider it an investment in one's self. I see it as a trap to be put on the merry-go-round that is our countries' financial system. You are only worth how much you are in debt, whether it be mortgages, car loans or student loans.

I tried to attend Communtiy College and got to go for free thanks to grants. They are easy to get; once you turn a certain age "they" stop taking into account your parents income. Unfortunately it is hard to apply yourself when you have to work 2 jobs to support yourself and keep up on your studies. Something had to give and it was school. MAybe these are just excuses...if they are someone point that out to me.

I would love to go back...and if I'm not able to find a job...I may go. If I do now that I'm married I may be eligible for more money. Maybe I can take care of my wife and I and still be able to focus on my studies.

So if for whatever reason you cannot go to college, you have two other options. Join the workforce (retail, manual labor, trade)...or become a burden. I joined the workforce. Becoming a burden is stigmatized and there is a fine line on whether or not it is TB appropriate...so I won't go there.

 

[BassyBill]

Of course there are apes here too,I'm not denying it,but there are apes everywhere.

We're all apes. From a biological point of view.

 

[MakiSupaStar]

We're all apes. From a biological point of view.

Speak for yourself mr. Bill, I'm a monkey.

 

[BassyBill]

Speak for yourself mr. Bill, I'm a monkey.

I'm not willing to conduct the necessary checks on your anatomy to confirm that. Based on the fact that you post here, I suspect you're wrong.

 

[Korladis]

Why the hell were you not in school for the last two years when you're 18? Way to limit your job opportunities, genius.

Just suck it up and join the navy. Be productive at something besides making excuses. Yeah, it sucks that your mom refuses to give you more than one meal a day, but she probably has very little money either.

 

[MakiSupaStar]

I'm not willing to conduct the necessary checks on your anatomy to confirm that. Based on the fact that you post here, I suspect you're wrong.

Listen here bub, i'm not too proud to chuck a turd or two to prove you wrong.

 

[Ayliffe]

stop bitching and go make your own ****ing food...

 

[Joe Gress]

Listen here bub, i'm not too proud to chuck a turd or two to prove you wrong.

I wouldn't put it past you.

 

[KrisH]

Maybe you could earn a little cash playing bass . . . . ???

 

[L-A]

Hey, Maki might be a monkey, but at least he's a self-made monkey.

 

[xgator4u]

I haven't been in school for about two years.


I've been applying for jobs, but none have hired me. What do you suggest?

You say you have not been offered a job while sitting around the house for the last 2 years, wanting to know when mommy is coming home to feed you? WOW, just WOW. You are 18 and have been out of school since 16? graduated early did you? Most likely quit, or flunked out while sitting around the house wondering what time mommy was coming home to feed you . 7 million people out of work in this country, ALL of them WITH WORK EXPERIENCE, 5 million of them with at least SOME college,and you are confused why someone has not come to your house to beg you to come to work for them, what with your super credentials, and work history... Go figure.

 

[popinfresh]

You say you have not been offered a job while sitting around the house for the last 2 years, wanting to know when mommy is coming home to feed you? WOW, just WOW. You are 18 and have been out of school since 16? graduated early did you? Most likely quit, or flunked out while sitting around the house wondering what time mommy was coming home to feed you . 7 million people out of work in this country, ALL of them WITH WORK EXPERIENCE, 5 million of them with at least SOME college,and you are confused why someone has not come to your house to beg you to come to work for them, what with your super credentials, and work history... Go figure.

Way to not read all the OP's posts.

 

[xgator4u]

Way to not read all the OP's posts.

OH I read them buster know it all, here is the abridged version as I saw it: I cant get a job(EXCUSE, too many people already wanting those jobs(EXCUSE), I have a condition(excuse) but I want to be a PRO WELDER, EVEN though I cant do anything with exertion(excuse), I live near a military base (excuse), and so and so has all of those jobs(excuse) and the other places I cant work there(excuse), oh and I bought my mom a hod dog stand with My hard earned money, and it didn't work out because she would not work it enough, and I cant(excuse).Did I miss anything there MR. POPPIN?

YOU SEE I speak from experience here, I have a 181/2 year old step son, pulling the same stunt. He thinks he can lay around and listen to IPOD/ watch T.V and eat/drink milk and soda all day. Because he applied for a job, but nobody hired him ... So now I should support him for the rest of his life, listening to one excuse after another... B.S.

 

[popinfresh]

this makes me really glad i get good grades and will probably never be in this situation....

Good grades does in no way mean a successful life, or even a secure job.

 

[sonic assassin]

hell i WORK and cant make enough to move out, so am stuck at home. they wont buy me much food, and it drives me nuts. i work harder than they do (landscaping) and the most inconvenience i am is a COUPLE extra dishes in the sink a week (i rarely use them) and use of the water. the dank, frigid basement i live in occasionally gets cluttered, and they bitch and moan (despite rarely going down there.. they just need something to bitch about).

i dont think its asking too much to keep feeding me as they did when i was in high school. i went away to school for a year and due to some really out there circumstances was forced to move back after i graduated and left for dead. they took me back in and it took me MONTHS to find a job (so i feel your pain there).

even when i was working, they were complaining. i understand riding my ass about being unemployed for a couple months. i didnt appreciate all the ball busting over the employers that didnt call despite my being very qualified for all the mongoloid jobs i applied for (YES im too good for fast food. i wasnt THAT desperate).

so now they've taken to buying me about 50 dollars in food a month and even though i have a blood sugar condition, they wont feed me. so now every dime i make goes to food and gas. how am i supposed to get out of their house if im broke paying for everything else. they give my little sister (who is moved out) laundry money and food all the time, and shes a failure compared to me.

/rant