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High End Acoustic Bass Thoughts/Recommendations

They do custom requests (for a price). Not sure the Aphex system is available separately, but probably out there somewhere... (I just popped Aphex an email about it, didn't see it on their product pages, but they obviously still make it.)
From Rode (who bought Aphex):

Good afternoon,

Unfortunately we don't have any information regarding this. Since Rode has merged which Aphex, none of the previous employees stayed with us and we only provide support for the models that are still in production.


Let me know if you have any other questions.

Kind Regards,

Clifton Tatum
RØDE Microphones
Service and Support
Sorry, @jd56hawk, sound like your plan to find a busted Dean to scavenge from is the only way now... ...good luck.
 
Hey Jason

Yeah, I love my top of the line Alien. They made some high end prototypes in Germany in the beginning, then subbed out the expensive high end ones to Viet Nam. Then they made a budget line of Alien's in the Far East. Mine is one of the high end models made in Viet Nam. It's a beautiful bass with a full rich tone.

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Bill Laswell got his at the same time I got mine, our instruments are virtually identical, except his is fretless. He made an entire solo acoustic album, with just him and his Alien here:

Bill Laswell - Means of Deliverance - Amazon.com Music

There are sound clips if you scroll.
I am going to get a Warwick Alien 6 Fretless oneday mark my words!
 
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In one of the other ABG threads, I'm thinking, I know I listened to at least one.

Yeah, I remember seeing something - and frankly, thinking to myself that it didn't sound all that great - but I didn't want to disparage another player's offerings... However, when he started to tout that Aphex preamp as the greatest ever, I thought I'd bring it up... I kind of feel like his request of my own video was a bit of a challenge - and now, his is gone, lol...
 
Yeah, I remember seeing something - and frankly, thinking to myself that it didn't sound all that great - but I didn't want to disparage another player's offerings... However, when he started to tout that Aphex preamp as the greatest ever, I thought I'd bring it up... I kind of feel like his request of my own video was a bit of a challenge - and now, his is gone, lol...
Well let's try not to get into a pi$$ing match, ok? :D Remember, what sounds good is entirely subjective. ;) I would like to check out direct recordings of both of them though - don't need the video even...
 
Well let's try not to get into a pi$$ing match, ok? :D Remember, what sounds good is entirely subjective. ;) I would like to check out direct recordings of both of them though - don't need the video even...

I'm not set up for that sort of thing, and don't care enough about it to bother getting that way, lol... What I posted is about as much as I'm going to offer, to be honest...
 
I'm not set up for that sort of thing, and don't care enough about it to bother getting that way, lol... What I posted is about as much as I'm going to offer, to be honest...
No worries. Not terribly important to me either, just curious. I've already got my favorite setup. ;)
 
No worries. Not terribly important to me either, just curious. I've already got my favorite setup. ;)

Yup - although if there was anyone here I'd ask AEB advice from, it would be you... When I played one of those Dean Exoticas with the APHEX preamp, I thought it sounded decent, but nothing spectacular - and the added "bells and whistles" of the preamp sounded more like I was playing thru a pedal, than just enhancing the natural sound of the bass...

Granted, my tonal goals probably aren't the same as others, but when *I* play an AEB plugged in, I'm looking to amplify the natural sound of the instrument - not turn it into something else... From there, I can tweak my EQ as desired with the LR Baggs stuff just fine....

As always, to each their own I say...
 
Yup - although if there was anyone here I'd ask AEB advice from, it would be you... When I played one of those Dean Exoticas with the APHEX preamp, I thought it sounded decent, but nothing spectacular - and the added "bells and whistles" of the preamp sounded more like I was playing thru a pedal, than just enhancing the natural sound of the bass...

Granted, my tonal goals probably aren't the same as others, but when *I* play an AEB plugged in, I'm looking to amplify the natural sound of the instrument - not turn it into something else... From there, I can tweak my EQ as desired with the LR Baggs stuff just fine....

As always, to each their own I say...
That's what really gets me about the Balor - other than increased attack especially on the low notes due to direct pressure on the piezo, the plugged in sound seems to me very very similar to the pure acoustic sound, that's why I did a stereo record and separated the tracks, just to show off how similar they sound... ;)
(not great playing, but hey...)
Edit: First acoustic, mic'ed with Shure KSM32, then plugged in direct.
 
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Granted, my tonal goals probably aren't the same as others, but when *I* play an AEB plugged in, I'm looking to amplify the natural sound of the instrument - not turn it into something else... From there, I can tweak my EQ as desired with the LR Baggs stuff just fine....
As always, to each their own I say...

Ditto!
That Breedlove does sound good; although, I'm really not surprised. It would be my choice if I were looking.
 
That's what really gets me about the Balor - other than increased attack especially on the low notes due to direct pressure on the piezo, the plugged in sound seems to me very very similar to the pure acoustic sound, that's why I did a stereo record and separated the tracks, just to show off how similar they sound... ;)
(not great playing, but hey...)


That's pretty "acoustic sounding" - nice clarity on the low B, too... I've wanted a 5 string AEB, but haven't looked that much into it yet...

The best acoustic sound *I* have heard as of yet is this preamp/pickup setup:

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/lr-baggs-dual-source-system

...installed in the guitar on the right:

 
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That's pretty "acoustic sounding" - nice clarity on the low B, too... I've wanted a 5 string AEB, but haven't looked that much into it yet...

The best acoustic sound *I* have heard as of yet is this preamp/pickup setup:

https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/lr-baggs-dual-source-system

...installed in the guitar on the right:


FWIW, Emerald also uses LR Baggs on the Balor, different model though. I like the dual source thing though and am considering putting it on my chinese archtop jazzbox.
 
Ditto!
That Breedlove does sound good; although, I'm really not surprised. It would be my choice if I were looking.

Thanks - as I said before, it was only a straight DI send to the board that literally was only given a quick line check before we went on, due to circumstances - and recorded on the singer's Mom's cellphone...

I've been really impressed with Breedlove's stuff - I've owned 3 of their AEBs, and two AEGs, and they've all been really, really good... All but one of the AEBs were bought used, and that one was bought on a closeout - so I really feel like I got excellent value for my money...
 
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FWIW, Emerald also uses LR Baggs on the Balor, different model though. I like the dual source thing though and am considering putting it on my chinese archtop jazzbox.

I really like the Dual Source - if I have any trouble with the preamp on either of my AEBs, that's probably the way I'll go to fix it... The Stage D25 in the pic came to me with the Dual Source already installed - and the dumbasses at the out of state GC I bought it from didn't even realize it, lol... The blend option is great - it really allows you to get everything out of your instrument...

The only drawbacks to the Dual Source(IMO) are that the battery ends up inside of the instrument - so it's a bit of a pain in the neck to change, but battery life has been outstanding... and that I had to "customize" a soundhole plug for the remote volume and blend controls - but that wasn't a big deal...
 
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BTW - what happened to the video you posted before? I tried to find it and couldn't...
This is what I used.
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I'll make a few new ones when I get the chance.
Headphones are recommended, of course.