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iOS Bass Players Thread #5, V, or cinco, take yer pick.

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bezbass said:
The most robust sounds like the sonic port (again no idea whether the ampkit one is thin plastic or solid etc and the apogee I know is far less robust than the sonic port)
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I haven't heard anyone complain about any of the devices that connect to the apple port losing low end.

I had the Apogee Jam for about a year and a half but just bought the Sonic Port because of one thing.. The Apogee Jam doesn't handle output so you have to use the headphone jack. The output sound seemed fine but I set my ipad on a little stand on my desk and it seemed really easy to pull off the desk when I had wires running out of both ends of the ipad, not to mention the wires running everywhere were really annoying to me.

One other thing is that the Jam can connect to a PC or Mac and comes with a 30-pin and USB cable. If you have lightning device you will need to buy an adapter. The Sonic Port doesn't connect to a PC/Mac, but it comes with both 30-pin and lightning cables.

The Apogee Jam sounds great. It has a gain knob on the device that the sonic port does not. It also has an LED to tell you a) that the gain is set properly so as not to distort the input and b) that the thing is on and connected properly.

The Apogee Jam seems very slightly compressed or at least warmer than the sonic port. The static-y pops that you sometimes get when touching the strings were inaudible. String squeaks seemed to be slightly subdued. The sonic port seems to be more of a raw or brighter signal. I figured I could add some compression on the software end to clean up the signal so I wasn't too worried about it.. both sounded very good to me and not that different.

So anyway, everything seemed good, I sold my Apogee Jam and was ready to go with the sonic port, and then it died after only a few days of use. I did some googling to find some other complaining of the same on the Line 6 forums. I've got a replacement on the way from the seller but I'm a little concerned about the lifespan of the device.

I'm still debating giving the iTrack Solo a try. For a desktop user, it seems to give the most options, though more expensive than the other devices.
 
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My first impressions on Auria: amazing DAW, absolutely pro and more than enough for what I need. I will have to spend a lot of time on it to learn more about it.

- How do I transfer a track from GB to Auria? I don't want to re-record it.
- I couldn't realize if the EQ or the Compressor are working, I didn't notice any change although I spent only 5 minutes with them.
- I don't like the metronome, I think it's not as easy to build a song from scratch like in GB.
 
#829
chumbo73 said:
My first impressions on Auria: amazing DAW, absolutely pro and more than enough for what I need. I will have to spend a lot of time on it to learn more about it.

- How do I transfer a track from GB to Auria? I don't want to re-record it.
- I couldn't realize if the EQ or the Compressor are working, I didn't notice any change although I spent only 5 minutes with them.
- I don't like the metronome, I think it's not as easy to build a song from scratch like in GB.
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Export possibilities from GB out to any software are about zero...
You can e-amil each track yourself, but for doing that you will have to solo each track and e-mail the project. Btw, the file will be AAC not WAV. Silly Apple!!
Regarding EQ and compressor, press the yellow knob to the upper left, thus un-bypass the effects.

I use Cubasis to build the song, and export to Auria as Cubasis to Auria project transfer is super easy.
 
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tranceFusion said:
I haven't heard anyone complain about any of the devices that connect to the apple port losing low end.

I had the Apogee Jam for about a year and a half but just bought the Sonic Port because of one thing.. The Apogee Jam doesn't handle output so you have to use the headphone jack. The output sound seemed fine but I set my ipad on a little stand on my desk and it seemed really easy to pull off the desk when I had wires running out of both ends of the ipad, not to mention the wires running everywhere were really annoying to me.

One other thing is that the Jam can connect to a PC or Mac and comes with a 30-pin and USB cable. If you have lightning device you will need to buy an adapter. The Sonic Port doesn't connect to a PC/Mac, but it comes with both 30-pin and lightning cables.

The Apogee Jam sounds great. It has a gain knob on the device that the sonic port does not. It also has an LED to tell you a) that the gain is set properly so as not to distort the input and b) that the thing is on and connected properly.

The Apogee Jam seems very slightly compressed or at least warmer than the sonic port. The static-y pops that you sometimes get when touching the strings were inaudible. String squeaks seemed to be slightly subdued. The sonic port seems to be more of a raw or brighter signal. I figured I could add some compression on the software end to clean up the signal so I wasn't too worried about it.. both sounded very good to me and not that different.

So anyway, everything seemed good, I sold my Apogee Jam and was ready to go with the sonic port, and then it died after only a few days of use. I did some googling to find some other complaining of the same on the Line 6 forums. I've got a replacement on the way from the seller but I'm a little concerned about the lifespan of the device.

I'm still debating giving the iTrack Solo a try. For a desktop user, it seems to give the most options, though more expensive than the other devices.
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Thank you mate. That's a great insight into both of those devices ! From what you've said I would go with the sonic port out of the two. Still can't find a decent user review of ampkit hd though. Let alone no one saying how robust it is.

The lifespan does sound like a concern though if its a common problem . I know the amp link boasts everything the sonic port does apart from the lighting connector .

Does your bass sound like a bass should? As in full body regardless of the string scrapes etc? I believe in the future of iOS apps for pro recording but don't want to buy something that won't deliver. I know you said you can add compression after . And do you find the free line 6 app to be any better than ampkit ? I've pretty much paid for everything on ampkit including the new bass amps so although line 6 would be free, if it doesn't add anything better then its not a factor.
 
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Duke21 said:
Export possibilities from GB out to any software are about zero...
You can e-amil each track yourself, but for doing that you will have to solo each track and e-mail the project. Btw, the file will be AAC not WAV. Silly Apple!!
Regarding EQ and compressor, press the yellow knob to the upper left, thus un-bypass the effects.

I use Cubasis to build the song, and export to Auria as Cubasis to Auria project transfer is super easy.
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Sounds good, but I'm spending a lot of money. Cubasis will have to wait.

Really cool you Beatles cover BTW
 
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bezbass said:
Does your bass sound like a bass should? As in full body regardless of the string scrapes etc? I believe in the future of iOS apps for pro recording but don't want to buy something that won't deliver. I know you said you can add compression after . And do you find the free line 6 app to be any better than ampkit ? I've pretty much paid for everything on ampkit including the new bass amps so although line 6 would be free, if it doesn't add anything better then its not a factor.
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Ampkit is better than the line 6 app. The line 6 app is pretty much just a throw-in to demo their device with. When I get my new sonic port in I am going to spend some time with Jamup since it seems to be a favorite on TB.

Yes, the bass sounds like a "real bass", and for recording it seems like a great solution, but it's been hard to A/B with plugging the instrument directly into my amp since Ampkit is adding amp modelling into the equation. *My* ideal usage would be to use the ipad as a transparent multi-fx processor and back to my amp head, and I just haven't gotten that far yet. I don't like dropping $100+ on a new stompbox every time I want a slightly different flavor of dirt, and trying to program a traditional multi-fx pedal seems like a nightmare compared to the nice touch interfaces on iOS.
 
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I use the Apogee Jam into my iPhone 4S running Jamup Pro (yup, upgraded finally), and the bass most definitely sounds like a bass.

The beauty is that when I need a sound, there is no compromise. If I need an Ampeg sound, I switch to my SVT preset. If I need funky, I've got two different GK's to choose from. Effects? No problem.

Being able to quickly design a preset for any sound I need makes me never want to go back to a traditional amp.
 
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Rip Topaz said:
I use the Apogee Jam into my iPhone 4S running Jamup Pro (yup, upgraded finally), and the bass most definitely sounds like a bass.

The beauty is that when I need a sound, there is no compromise. If I need an Ampeg sound, I switch to my SVT preset. If I need funky, I've got two different GK's to choose from. Effects? No problem.

Being able to quickly design a preset for any sound I need makes me never want to go back to a traditional amp.
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Thank you. The apogee jam does sound great but I like the idea of the extra ports out which sonic port and ampkit hd both have. Although sonic port is 1/4 inch out.

Ampkit has option of charging iOS device while running too but so far the sonic port is looking and can run straight in pc/mac as a soundcard.

I just need to find out how many cases there are of sonic port malfunctioning by comparison.
 
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tranceFusion said:
Ampkit is better than the line 6 app.

Yes, the bass sounds like a "real bass", and for recording it seems like a great solution, but it's been hard to A/B with plugging the instrument directly into my amp since Ampkit is adding amp modelling into the equation.

*My* ideal usage would be to use the ipad as a transparent multi-fx processor and back to my amp head, .
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These are the main factors for me. No clear choice. Maybe it's as simple as whichever you buy you'll be happy as they are all great.

Running into an amp though or even straight through a desk could be great. Leave the amp in the car in case the iOS device dies and do your gigs straight through the pa. sounds like heaven :)
 
#837
Duke21 said:
And here is Rude Duke cover of Let it be by The Beatles.
The cover is done mostly for fun as we had so little to do... lol.
https://soundcloud.com/rude-duke/let-it-be-the-beatles-cover

And non iOS friendly :D



Edit: Initially uploaded a wrong version which lacked 3 tracks, the link now is updated
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"Non iOS Friendly" LOL! :)

So much talent between you two.

I love the track - but there is a "stickyness" with the percussion that I blame on the limitations of all the crazy stuff we are pushing. (Pushing in a good way - as in "Pushing the envelope")

I'm finding that if I skip all the extras and do everything on GB it is faster and more satisfying. Granted - I'm doing hobby demos that will never go beyond that.

That said - this thread has left me behind.

I'm lucky to have been a part of this ground breaking time in making music - but you dudes (and dudettes) are so far ahead that I've given up.

If I make any more iOS music I will share it with y'all for old times sake, but I'm pretty much left in the dust compared to where you guys are going.

Rock On - Stay Strong

This IS the cutting edge.

:)
 
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SolarMan said:
"Non iOS Friendly" LOL! :)

So much talent between you two.

I love the track - but there is a "stickyness" with the percussion that I blame on the limitations of all the crazy stuff we are pushing. (Pushing in a good way - as in "Pushing the envelope")

I'm finding that if I skip all the extras and do everything on GB it is faster and more satisfying. Granted - I'm doing hobby demos that will never go beyond that.

That said - this thread has left me behind.

I'm lucky to have been a part of this ground breaking time in making music - but you dudes (and dudettes) are so far ahead that I've given up.

If I make any more iOS music I will share it with y'all for old times sake, but I'm pretty much left in the dust compared to where you guys are going.

Rock On - Stay Strong

This IS the cutting edge.

:)
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Thanks for the great compliments Eric. The drums are sticky due to the compression I run on them to sustain a bit longer. Otherwise my drumming abilities are as one handed Lars Ulrich as best.... Lol
 
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bezbass said:
These are the main factors for me. No clear choice. Maybe it's as simple as whichever you buy you'll be happy as they are all great.

Running into an amp though or even straight through a desk could be great. Leave the amp in the car in case the iOS device dies and do your gigs straight through the pa. sounds like heaven :)
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Yeah, what's good for one person is not necessarily good for the next. If I was gigging, running straight to a PA would be great, but I haven't gigged in a few years, and don't have any plans to at this point. My goals are to use it as a multi-fx pedal into my amp to get as wide a variety of sounds as possible to noodle around with at jam sessions, and for amateur recordings I make for my own amusement.
 
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