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Is global warming fake?

vespas make more pollution the SUV's although they take less gas.


2 stroke engines, are a lot dirtier and make a lot more smoke then a 4 stroke car engine. Even though the car engine is bigger and uses more fuel the way it burns that fuel is cleaner.


And I HATE SUV's I don't see why if you need that space you can't get a Van.
Depending on the van, you're getting the same mileage.

Mike
 
On to smaller and more insignificant things like gasoline and global economic collapse...everyone that I know who owns an SUV uses the space it provides daily. I know it's fun to paint a caricature of rich irresponsible soccer moms putting two grocery bags in the back of a Suburban, but it's just not the case in more instances than you might want to realize.

Here here. There are those of us that would like to do our part to help the environment but are handicapped in terms of our choice of vehicles. For example, a man with my . . . um . . . hobbies requires a van with no windows. And how many hybrids are built that fit my needs? That's right, zero.

You think women are really going to get into a Prius with a "Free Breast Exam" sign on the passenger door? I don't think so. Sometimes it is all about appearances.
 
Here here. There are those of us that would like to do our part to help the environment but are handicapped in terms of our choice of vehicles. For example, a man with my . . . um . . . hobbies requires a van with no windows. And how many hybrids are built that fit my needs? That's right, zero.

You think women are really going to get into a Prius with a "Free Breast Exam" sign on the passenger door? I don't think so. Sometimes it is all about appearances.
All very true, but I was hoping someone would have chimed in with a more obvious example. I know you know where I'm coming from when I describe how difficult it can be to tranport an entire team of fighters in child safety seats. Thanks to the risk of decapitation by airbag deployment and the logistical inability of putting more than two car seats per bench, an 8 passenger Suburban is only able to transport a coach, 4 Extreme Youth Combat fighters and their gear. We ALMOST went Ford Econoline last season, but the extra bench only adds two seats and I think we all remember the rollover disaster the Wichita Chapter suffered last winter when they hit the black ice.

Mike
 
Here here. There are those of us that would like to do our part to help the environment but are handicapped in terms of our choice of vehicles. For example, a man with my . . . um . . . hobbies requires a van with no windows. And how many hybrids are built that fit my needs? That's right, zero.

You think women are really going to get into a Prius with a "Free Breast Exam" sign on the passenger door? I don't think so. Sometimes it is all about appearances.

Around here we use retired UPS trucks. They provide a more profession look while maintaining your privacy. You will have to paint it a different color though, unless you want to deal with the seemingly endless requests for a somewhat different exam.
 
We ALMOST went Ford Econoline last season, but the extra bench only adds two seats and I think we all remember the rollover disaster the Wichita Chapter suffered last winter when they hit the black ice.

Mike

Eww...I tried to get that out of my head but the images of tattered sesame street dolls and what seemed like a pizza parlor spilled a year's supply of marinara on the highway was not pretty...and kinda creepy with the Barney video still playing on the vhs player when the emt's arrived...sick...
 
Eww...I tried to get that out of my head but the images of tattered sesame street dolls and what seemed like a pizza parlor spilled a year's supply of marinara on the highway was not pretty...and kinda creepy with the Barney video still playing on the vhs player when the emt's arrived...sick...
You'd have thought a hardened veteren of this sport like yourself would have developed a stomach for such sights, but that just goes to show you how horrific the Ford Econoline can be.

Mike
 
+1

You don't need global warming to worry about the enviroment.

The problem is that "global warming" lost its real meaning since it's been used and abused.



Global Warming Is real from a combination of natural cycles and mans actions, it is ignorant to not attempt to recycle or apply new energy sources, not so much from the little people but whole buildings in Manhattan that don't recycle? thats absurd, where using up our natural resources, the government needs to research and implement new sources of fuel, or our gas prices are only going to keep going up.
 
Global Warming Is real from a combination of natural cycles and mans actions, it is ignorant to not attempt to recycle or apply new energy sources, not so much from the little people but whole buildings in Manhattan that don't recycle? thats absurd, where using up our natural resources, the government needs to research and implement new sources of fuel, or our gas prices are only going to keep going up.

Do you really think they would do that? There's no money in it for them!
 
To those who say it's fake, how do you explain the polar ice caps melting, the increasing worse weather and storms and the hotter summers?

Building houses on indian burial grounds?

The ever-increasing use of hair dryers?

Mr Rogers not being with us anymore?

Maki sweating while having his pants at his ankles and making monkey noises?

Or are the Dolphins doing it?

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To those who say it's fake, how do you explain the polar ice caps melting, the increasing worse weather and storms and the hotter summers?
The same way you'd explain all that snow we got about 11000 years ago.

I'm not taking a side, but if you couldn't see that answer coming based on the responses in this thread and all the others like it, you shouldn't be debating this topic.

Mike
 
Regardless global temperatures are risings, hence global warming, there is no debating that :rollno:
I never argued that point. Ole boy wants to know how someone will explain global temperature change and the presumed effects of said change...I'm saying the answer is so obvious the question shouldn't be asked unless we're going back to Climate Change Debate 101 or maybe even lower.

Mike
 
I never argued that point. Ole boy wants to know how someone will explain global temperature change and the presumed effects of said change...I'm saying the answer is so obvious the question shouldn't be asked unless we're going back to Climate Change Debate 101 or maybe even lower.

Mike

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