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Is Modulus still in Business?

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#921
jmattbassplaya said:
Why do they sound different?
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There are a multitude of reasons basses sound different, but the necks themselves are different too. I don't know who's currently fabricating the Zon necks, but we (Modulus) molded them in the beginning. The Status necks, as described to me by Rob Green, are molded under lower pressure, and thus have a higher resin content. These things make a difference. Even more different is the Moses neck, which is more like a graphite mousse, or used to be. I have no idea how they are currently making them.
 
#922
The zons sound closer to moses than modulus to me. And they both do the phenowood fingerboards, so I've long suspected some sort of collaboration there. i have no proof! They are all good, but probably at least as different from each other as maple on maple vs rosewood on maple.
 
#923
GeoffGould said:
There are a multitude of reasons basses sound different, but the necks themselves are different too. I don't know who's currently fabricating the Zon necks, but we (Modulus) molded them in the beginning. The Status necks, as described to me by Rob Green, are molded under lower pressure, and thus have a higher resin content. These things make a difference. Even more different is the Moses neck, which is more like a graphite mousse, or used to be. I have no idea how they are currently making them.
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Big thanks to you and everyone else who responded :) I was curious what the major differences were between the different makers. Is anyone currently making anything that still sounds similar to Modulus? I love my Q5. Always wanted a second with maybe a few personal touches added.
 
#925
jmattbassplaya said:
Big thanks to you and everyone else who responded :) I was curious what the major differences were between the different makers. Is anyone currently making anything that still sounds similar to Modulus? I love my Q5. Always wanted a second with maybe a few personal touches added.
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I'm not trying to plug myself on a page devoted to the company I created, and is now in some murky existence. I wish them the best, or hope at least they were treated well in whatever happened. I really don't know. The main difference between the Q5 I originally designed, and the GGi5 I now put out is the string spacing. The Q5 string spacing is 17mm, and the GGi5 is 17.5mm. I only make 15 or so basses a year, and they're only available in a few places. Maybe we'll find out someday what happened to Modulus' production capacity.
 
#926
GeoffGould said:
I'm not trying to plug myself on a page devoted to the company I created, and is now in some murky existence. I wish them the best, or hope at least they were treated well in whatever happened. I really don't know. The main difference between the Q5 I originally designed, and the GGi5 I now put out is the string spacing. The Q5 string spacing is 17mm, and the GGi5 is 17.5mm. I only make 15 or so basses a year, and they're only available in a few places. Maybe we'll find out someday what happened to Modulus' production capacity.
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Geoff, I've checked out a bunch of yours when I've seen them on line and they look like they have a similar patterning in the laying of the material.

19mm became a must for me so I had to part w my Q5s and Q6. I've had them with the phenolic boards and Chechen. My Zons have the phenol wood fretboards. I like the different configurations. None better or worse.

The Status basses I had were great players too. It came down to preferring the ergonomics of the Zon and Modulus basses for me.

They all are inherently different sounding. Just like a VJ will sound different that a Q5. I don't think you could go wrong with any one of them.

I hope in the future you will have a 19mm option for 5 and 6 strings. I'd be interest to check that out
 
#927
Mulebagger said:
Geoff, I've checked out a bunch of yours when I've seen them on line and they look like they have a similar patterning in the laying of the material.

19mm became a must for me so I had to part w my Q5s and Q6. I've had them with the phenolic boards and Chechen. My Zons have the phenol wood fretboards. I like the different configurations. None better or worse.

The Status basses I had were great players too. It came down to preferring the ergonomics of the Zon and Modulus basses for me.

They all are inherently different sounding. Just like a VJ will sound different that a Q5. I don't think you could go wrong with any one of them.

I hope in the future you will have a 19mm option for 5 and 6 strings. I'd be interest to check that out
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I don't see doing a 19mm 6-string, but we could easily put 5 strings on the 6-string neck. The math works out to 21mm+ spacing, which could easily be cut down to 19.
 
#928
Mulebagger said:
Geoff, I've checked out a bunch of yours when I've seen them on line and they look like they have a similar patterning in the laying of the material.

19mm became a must for me so I had to part w my Q5s and Q6. I've had them with the phenolic boards and Chechen. My Zons have the phenol wood fretboards. I like the different configurations. None better or worse.

The Status basses I had were great players too. It came down to preferring the ergonomics of the Zon and Modulus basses for me.

They all are inherently different sounding. Just like a VJ will sound different that a Q5. I don't think you could go wrong with any one of them.

I hope in the future you will have a 19mm option for 5 and 6 strings. I'd be interest to check that out
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Not to pull business away from Geoff, but you might also look up Jerry Dorsch. I think he does a 19mm 5 string. However, I don't think he does 6 strings at the moment.
 
#933
Indeed they are out of business. Really saddened to say. I actually called bass central a week ago just to confirm because they were one of the big modulus deals and they confirmed for sure they are out.
 
#934
pickles said:
The zons sound closer to moses than modulus to me. And they both do the phenowood fingerboards, so I've long suspected some sort of collaboration there. i have no proof! …...
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I agree Zon is closer to moses than modulus sound wise (to a certain extend and with some reservation).
Not sure if you mean Zon and Moses are using pheno.
Steve isn't using phenowood. He did use diamonwood for a while (which I liked) but now he uses one piece (no fretboard).
(and they have no collaboration between the two :) ).

I have used both and like/d both.

M
 
#935
maurilio said:
I agree Zon is closer to moses than modulus sound wise (to a certain extend and with some reservation).
Not sure if you mean Zon and Moses are using pheno.
Steve isn't using phenowood. He did use diamonwood for a while (which I liked) but now he uses one piece (no fretboard).
(and they have no collaboration between the two :) ).

I have used both and like/d both.

M
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I used Moses Graphite necks when I was building almost exclusively. Great necks and more similar to Zon than Modulus or Status. Back a few years ago I talked to Steve Mosher about his competitors and he really didn't say much bad about any of the graphite necks. He mentioned that he thought Zon had a good product.

I play a Modulus Q5 and have for many years. Hard to top it. I did build a bass using a Status Graphite neck that, to me, was superior to anything else. It's construction and feel were above and beyond. Just my opinion.

I suppose that if I ever want another bass and I can no longer get a Modulus, I will go with G.Gould or Status.

Also, as mentioned above, Moses has no affiliation with Zon. I know that Mosher had built necks for Scott Ambush. I saw some shortly after they were completed. I can't remember whether I saw them in his old shop or new one.
 
#936
inthebassclef said:
Indeed they are out of business.
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#937
tubenutq5 said:
I used Moses Graphite necks when I was building almost exclusively. Great necks and more similar to Zon than Modulus or Status. Back a few years ago I talked to Steve Mosher about his competitors and he really didn't say much bad about any of the graphite necks. He mentioned that he thought Zon had a good product.

….I know that Mosher had built necks for Scott Ambush. I saw some shortly after they were completed. I can't remember whether I saw them in his old shop or new one.
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+1 (I own/ed one)

and he did use diamondwood early on and than for some stability issues he went to a 'no fretboard' design.
 
#938
regarding diamond wood and Moses ....Moses is no longer using diamond wood as its really hard to work with , I just had a moses diamond wood fingerboard /neck refretted and plecked ,it was a nightmare for Peekamoose who did the job though it came out pretty nice , and although i think it adds something sonically ,its hardly practical given its difficult nature to work with
 
#939
tubenutq5 said:
I used Moses Graphite necks when I was building almost exclusively. Great necks and more similar to Zon than Modulus or Status. Back a few years ago I talked to Steve Mosher about his competitors and he really didn't say much bad about any of the graphite necks. He mentioned that he thought Zon had a good product.

I play a Modulus Q5 and have for many years. Hard to top it. I did build a bass using a Status Graphite neck that, to me, was superior to anything else. It's construction and feel were above and beyond. Just my opinion.

I suppose that if I ever want another bass and I can no longer get a Modulus, I will go with G.Gould or Status.

Also, as mentioned above, Moses has no affiliation with Zon. I know that Mosher had built necks for Scott Ambush. I saw some shortly after they were completed. I can't remember whether I saw them in his old shop or new one.
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How did the Status neck build sound compared to Modulus? I always preferred the Mod sound over the Zon/Moses and looks like I'm not going to be able to get a custom Mod like I had wanted. :crying:
 
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