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Jeff Berlin Discussing Music Ed Part II

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Jeff,
If you want to have excellent smoked anything made at home. I suggest you take a trip to Bass Pro Shops ( you live in Fl, I know there are a few down there) and pick up a Bradley electric smoker. They are around $399.00 it couldn't be easier than these make it.

The Bradley loads the wood for you in 20 minute intervals. Follow the directions that come with it. The wood is in the shape of hockey pucks, you can get any kind of wood you want. Apple,hickory,mesquite,cherry, etc. I usually like a combination of apple and hickory. Just alternate the pucks when you put them in the loader.

I suggest baby back ribs, I can usually find them on sale for $2.99-$3.99 a pound.

After you have smoked the ribs for about 6 hours, put them on your grill for 20 minutes basting with your favorite sauce turning frequently.

You will not be dissapointed!

Enjoy!

Craig

Sounds great. Many thanks. I never knew what kind of smoker to get. I always had a penchant fot eh kind where the smokebox is off to the side. Does Bass sell this kind of smoker. Also, I hear about applewood, cherrywood. Can I burn real wood instead of hockey puck-type wood. Does it actually make a difference whcih wood that I use?
 
Q-ing also takes patience. "Low and-Slow"
Practice makes perfect...You will make mistakes along the way, but that's OK!
Find a good teacher.........




Wait ---where have I heard this before

TEACHER? WHO NEEDS A %&$*$()@$# TEACHER! I own a box of matches. I own a can of lighter fluid. I've eaten McRibs before. TEACHER???? @#%_(*@^%&*(@^$%@()#*$^)(*^!@#$
 
Not unless you use it to make smoke! Bada BIIIIINGGGGG!!

Using a metronome to make smoke is the 'art side' of things and has nothing to do with the academics of pig cookery.

No real BBQ master learned to produce succulent and delicious ribs using a metronome. While some may have opted to use one to make smoke, I can tell you for a fact that they didn't learn good Q'ing technique because of it.

Additionally, I am dubious that using a metronome to make smoke has resulted in 'good' ribs. Cooked ribs? Sure. Smoked, cooked ribs? OK... But delicious? I seriously doubt it!

I challenge anyone to post examples of great BBQ'ers who claim use of a metronome (in any way) is responsible for their ability to Q!
 
I've practiced the Ravel all day today (never thought that I would say this, but I am up to HERE with Ravel)! This is what happens when you practice a lot. You get to the point where you sometimes have simply had enough and you are ready to go up on a rooftop with an Uzi. But, I am practicing to play what might be one of the more challenging pieces that I have played. I know that what we record lives on after us and for this reason, I am happy to practice relentlessly this bass part that I have written out. Between chatting with you guys, teaching a few guys at The Players School, talking with Vicky about biz, writing new music (I do this every day if possible) and discussing a tour in South America, I AM PLUM TUCKERED OUT! Time to go home and see my boys. They are the greatest guys in the world and when I get there, I have to get ready to answer the questions and statements that boys of their age will ask (But, WHY can't I drive the car into the pool after drinking a bottle of Segrams??? The water ain't that deep!!!!!)

Talk tomorrow! I am here for a couple of more weeks and then I must take a break from Talkbass. But, until then, keep practicing "The Good Stuff!"
 
Using a metronome to make smoke is the 'art side' of things and has nothing to do with the academics of pig cookery.

No real BBQ master learned to produce succulent and delicious ribs using a metronome. While some may have opted to use one to make smoke, I can tell you for a fact that they didn't learn good Q'ing technique because of it.

Additionally, I am dubious that using a metronome to make smoke has resulted in 'good' ribs. Cooked ribs? Sure. Smoked, cooked ribs? OK... But delicious? I seriously doubt it!

I challenge anyone to post examples of great BBQ'ers who claim use of a metronome (in any way) is responsible for their ability to Q!

I love this! Very funny! Does good BBQ happen between 60 to 85 or between 110 to 256?
 
Sounds great. Many thanks. I never knew what kind of smoker to get. I always had a penchant fot eh kind where the smokebox is off to the side. Does Bass sell this kind of smoker. Also, I hear about applewood, cherrywood. Can I burn real wood instead of hockey puck-type wood. Does it actually make a difference whcih wood that I use?

Jeff, you are quite welcome!

Yes!
Bass pro shops sell all kinds of smokers. The Bradley I described only uses the puck type. LOL, it is real wood that it uses they just grind it up and press it together for ease of use for busy guys like yourself!

If you wish to get the smoker box type they have those as well, the difficult part about these is keeping the proper temp. going. If your smoker gets to hot the result is yucky bitter burned flavor, not yummy hint of smokey goodness. Too cool and it never gets finished and your dinner ends up being a midnight snack.

The Bradley has a temperature setting on it, I keep mine at about 200 degrees for perfect smoking.

I have had a few different smokers in my life, this one BY FAR is the easiest to use and has the best results for the average aspiring chef.

The difference in wood flavor is quite noticeable in my opinion. I love apple and hickory, I don't personally care for mesquite but this is all subjective.

Just head down there when you have time and have a look around, I bet you will spend some time shopping!
Good luck!
 
After being a long-time lurker regarding this thread (and gaining lots of insight and help regarding my approach towards studying music), I feel like adding a comment. Finally...


I had a conversation with an american singer/songwriter living in Cologne right on that topic. She pointed out that good cooking resembles Jazz to a large extend, since you have to learn a lot of basic things (academical learning, just factual knowledge, as you might put it, Jeff) - but when it comes to real cooking (performing an art), the interesting thing is that you use the factual knowledge in a much more 'liberate' form. At least this holds true for all food except pastries... there, you'll have to apply alchemistic accuracy regarding the correct amounts of ingredients. But when cooking other food (not pastries, puddings, cakes etc.), the thing becomes really interesting when you apply your factual knowledge (like rules of harmony, music theory) to new situations, e.g. when confronted with a limited variety of available ingredients.

I'll return to a couple of lamb chops now, which are simmering in a pan. I think I'll add a few drops of Noilly Prat (my secret weapon) and see what I'll be able to improvise redarding a sauce for the lamb.... My wife is hungry...

I wish my bass playing would be as good as my cooking, though.

Ah, Jeff, b.t.w. - I've been to one of your concerts, a couple of years ago, at the Stadthalle Siegen, together with Danny Gottlieb and Richard Drexler. It was just a couple of months after I started to study music. At the age of 34....
Well, anyway - thank you for that concert. You opened my eyes about what can be done on this instrument!

Maybe you make it to the Frankfurt Musikmesse, this year? You have a standing invitation to our place, to enjoy some good cooking, and maybe a very good wine!
 
Jeff, you are quite welcome!

Yes!
Bass pro shops sell all kinds of smokers. The Bradley I described only uses the puck type. LOL, it is real wood that it uses they just grind it up and press it together for ease of use for busy guys like yourself!

If you wish to get the smoker box type they have those as well, the difficult part about these is keeping the proper temp. going. If your smoker gets to hot the result is yucky bitter burned flavor, not yummy hint of smokey goodness. Too cool and it never gets finished and your dinner ends up being a midnight snack.

The Bradley has a temperature setting on it, I keep mine at about 200 degrees for perfect smoking.

I have had a few different smokers in my life, this one BY FAR is the easiest to use and has the best results for the average aspiring chef.

The difference in wood flavor is quite noticeable in my opinion. I love apple and hickory, I don't personally care for mesquite but this is all subjective.

Just head down there when you have time and have a look around, I bet you will spend some time shopping!
Good luck!

When I get one, I will let you know over here. Thanks for your insight. It always pays to go to somebody who knows more about these things than I do.
 
If you are looking to get in to smoking cheap, I have a Brinkman Bullet smoker (looks like a Red R2D2) that you can get from Home Depot for about $60. I make amazing shoulder and pretty decent ribs on it, and once, a very credible smoked turkey.

I have heard about Brinkman. I heard that they are agreat brand. I might check it out, but right now, that Bass smoker sounds pretty good to me. But, who knows. Thanks much!
 
Jeff,
If you want to have excellent smoked anything made at home. I suggest you take a trip to Bass Pro Shops ( you live in Fl, I know there are a few down there) and pick up a Bradley electric smoker. They are around $399.00 it couldn't be easier than these make it.

The Bradley loads the wood for you in 20 minute intervals. Follow the directions that come with it. The wood is in the shape of hockey pucks, you can get any kind of wood you want. Apple,hickory,mesquite,cherry, etc. I usually like a combination of apple and hickory. Just alternate the pucks when you put them in the loader.

I suggest baby back ribs, I can usually find them on sale for $2.99-$3.99 a pound.

After you have smoked the ribs for about 6 hours, put them on your grill for 20 minutes basting with your favorite sauce turning frequently.

You will not be dissapointed!

Enjoy!

Craig

Is this the one that you mean?

http://www.bradleysmoker.com/bradley-original-smoker.asp
 
After being a long-time lurker regarding this thread (and gaining lots of insight and help regarding my approach towards studying music), I feel like adding a comment. Finally...


I had a conversation with an american singer/songwriter living in Cologne right on that topic. She pointed out that good cooking resembles Jazz to a large extend, since you have to learn a lot of basic things (academical learning, just factual knowledge, as you might put it, Jeff) - but when it comes to real cooking (performing an art), the interesting thing is that you use the factual knowledge in a much more 'liberate' form. At least this holds true for all food except pastries... there, you'll have to apply alchemistic accuracy regarding the correct amounts of ingredients. But when cooking other food (not pastries, puddings, cakes etc.), the thing becomes really interesting when you apply your factual knowledge (like rules of harmony, music theory) to new situations, e.g. when confronted with a limited variety of available ingredients.

I'll return to a couple of lamb chops now, which are simmering in a pan. I think I'll add a few drops of Noilly Prat (my secret weapon) and see what I'll be able to improvise redarding a sauce for the lamb.... My wife is hungry...

I wish my bass playing would be as good as my cooking, though.

Ah, Jeff, b.t.w. - I've been to one of your concerts, a couple of years ago, at the Stadthalle Siegen, together with Danny Gottlieb and Richard Drexler. It was just a couple of months after I started to study music. At the age of 34....
Well, anyway - thank you for that concert. You opened my eyes about what can be done on this instrument!

Maybe you make it to the Frankfurt Musikmesse, this year? You have a standing invitation to our place, to enjoy some good cooking, and maybe a very good wine!

Many thanks for commenting here,. Enjoy your dinner! lamb chops! Yum!
 
As suggested, I got a 'bone book to help with my reading- Ernest Clark's Method For Trombone.

What's cool is that the exercises are musical; there's some sort of sequential pattern that they follow as they go up and down that is systematic and cohesive. Makes practicing enjoyable because they are musical as well as good for learning how to read. I get the sense that my ear is being developed unconsciously and concurrently as I learn to read better.

Start lessons on Saturday with George Panos, a well known and respected electric player here on Long Island and New York.

All this talk of food is making me dial up the local pizzeria for a meatball parmagian hero- the closest good bbq is 10 miles south, and I'm too busy enjoying practicing.
 
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