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Jeff's Thread. No Topic! Just Go for It. But, Be Nice!

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Hey guys. What's up? Just checking in to see what condition my condition is in....

I had a nice experience the last couple of weeks. A drummer I play with asked me to dep in his soul/funk band for a couple of gigs this month, and gave me a set list of 35 songs (not originals, well known covers, some of which I know, and a lot of which I haven't bothered learning before).

Hmm, I thought.

Since leaving PSOM, I've been travelling around California until 2 days ago (when I made it back to the UK - hooray), and the first rehearsal was today. So, I basically spent the evenings when I was free transcribing and charting out the tunes. Often without my bass, but with a pitch pipe for reference.

I charted out 12 songs this way, had charts for another 7 at home which I had lying around, and picked up another 6 songs pretty much on the spot at rehearsal today. This included having to transpose several tunes I had transcribed on the spot to a different key for the singer (took me a minute or two generally, but got there reasonably quick).

I'm not finished doing the homework for the gigs yet (more transcribing to be done tomorrow and the next few days), but the band were pleased with how quick I picked up everything, and I can say with confidence we'll be ready for a gig after one further rehearsal. I sure wasn't at this point musically two and a half years ago when I started out on 'getting serious'.

I feel very happy with my progress, and just wanted to say that I have found what Jeff and the guys at school taught at school to be very successful in my musical life. Thanks a lot guys! And again, I'll repeat to everybody what I've said on Talkbass before: if you wish to make a living doing this, I think listening to what Jeff has to say will help you out a lot.

Now. To an important question. When's the new CD out, Jeff? I'm still waiting to buy a copy...
 
Hey Jeff, Any books or methods you can reccomend to me for learning Hemiola's? I'm talking the interesting, longer ones. I can do the 2 over 3 and 3 over 4 stuff. Those ones can be memorized quite easy with dumb sayings. "Hot cup of tea" is what i used for 2 over 3. But I cant be siting a paragraph from the constitution every time i want to bust out a long one.

Santucci;
It sounds to me like you want Polyrhythms instead of Hemiolas.
The following aren't really polyrhythms, but they're a way to break up a 4/4 line and give the feel of polyrhythms.
My experience with this is playing drums in straight ahead jazz trio.

The drummer can keep playing in 4/4, or you can work this together.

Think of 4 bars of 4/4 time as 16 beats.
Now, play it as 2 bars of 5/4 and one bar of 6/4.
Feel the 5/4 bars as divided 3-2 and the 6/4 as 3-3.

Count [1-2-3; 1-2; 1-2-3; 1-2; 1-2-3; 1-2-3] back to walking in 4/4.
When you get back to 4/4, the downbeat hits like a ton of bricks and the keyboard player yells "Can't you count?!?" (Honest, they will!)

This can be done in many permutations:
1 bar of 7/4 divided 3-4; 1 bar of 2/4; 1 bar of 7/4 divided 3-4.
ETC. Find more & experiment.

Hope this gives you some ideas. I'll try to find my polyrhythm notes from my drum lessons of 25+ years ago & post some more info.

Take care;
Dan
 
And I bet you could play it now and make people DANCE. Right? That's what the bass is for, imo.

Just listening to "Do I Do" by Stevie (the extended version). It doesn't get any better than this.

I'm currently playing "Do I Do" a lot - just makes me happy to play it. What a fun, awesome song, with a fun, awesome groove.
 
My webist is a DISASTER! I need to upgrade it greatly. I am really ashamed about how it looks. I need to research a good designer to help me join the 21st century in this.

I tour all year on and off. I have a couple of tours in Europe and a tour of South America with Dennis Chambers and Scott Henderson. I am in Chicago next week for a gig with Simopn Philips. Other things are on the fire. But no NY at this time. DARN! I love NY.

Yes Jeff you DO need to let us know what you are up to !!!!
But can i just say that i have been working pretty solidly for the last twenty years as a bass player and ALWAYS get called back for gigs and i have been called the most musical bassist in my area .
And it's all thanks to your goodself and your "chord tones for bass system" i bought and applied myself to.
It's such a simple approach just use the tones of the chord to emphasis the tonality and make other musicians sound great and you "get work" LOL !
Cheers Jeff i owe you dinner.;)
 
No one has mentioned Bernadette, so obviously someone is looking for a fight!
But seriously I remember hearing that and Gladys Knight's Heard it Through the Grapevine when my parents had a Chevy Bel Air (of course this was the short period of time they were uncool cars) and hearing the bassline to those tunes.

The tune Bernadette attracted me to bass. I started revisiting those last week to work on my rythmic stuff, hadn't played them in years, working on For once in my Life now. Alan Slutsky is to be commended for all his work (and he's a guitar player!) in really getting JJ's name out there.
i'd like to see the doctor do a standing in the shadow of babbitt book.....
 
Peter - great post.

I wish I lived near Jeff's School. [although, I probably not even worthy]

Everyone else - I'm going out to grab a bite and some down time with my wife. Everyone behave. :)

You might have said the "not worthy" bit in jest, but...

You would be met at your level, and shown what to look at to improve from there. Not even a hint of condescension. That was my experience at Jeff's school, and I am far, far from being a decent player, yet. Working towards it, though.
 
You might have said the "not worthy" bit in jest, but...

You would be met at your level, and shown what to look at to improve from there. Not even a hint of condescension. That was my experience at Jeff's school, and I am far, far from being a decent player, yet. Working towards it, though.

That sounds just awesome to me, too many schools that I've looked up seem to expect you to pretty much not need their help before you go in, which, uh, kind of makes it a little pointless to me, unless you want a masterclass, I suppose.
 
I'm currently playing "Do I Do" a lot - just makes me happy to play it. What a fun, awesome song, with a fun, awesome groove.
My band covers this - great fun to play. For the bass solo, I tried to come up with something of my own, but whatever I did just seemed lousy in comparison to the original. So, now I just copy Nathan's solo off the record.
 
You might have said the "not worthy" bit in jest, but...

You would be met at your level, and shown what to look at to improve from there. Not even a hint of condescension. That was my experience at Jeff's school, and I am far, far from being a decent player, yet. Working towards it, though.

That's absolutely fantastic. Really great to hear that there's a place like that on the planet.

Jeff - open up another branch in my region. :)
 
And I bet you could play it now and make people DANCE. Right? That's what the bass is for, imo.

Just listening to "Do I Do" by Stevie (the extended version). It doesn't get any better than this.

I guess I could;)

Strange though - JJ and Jaco are perhaps the most frequently named 'most influential bassist ever'. EVERYONE, though, seems to connect with JJ - not so much the case with Jaco, I find. Opinions?
 
I guess I could;)

Strange though - JJ and Jaco are perhaps the most frequently named 'most influential bassist ever'. EVERYONE, though, seems to connect with JJ - not so much the case with Jaco, I find. Opinions?

I think that's due mainly to context. Jamerson recorded some of the best and most accessible pop tunes ever written and Jaco recorded mostly jazz.
 
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